Phillippine American War

[jy00]

Here is a good link

Destroy all Goo Goos (http://www.loompanics.com/Articles/DestroyAllGooGoos.htm)

Turn of the century Americans were pretty racist. Are they still?


Blacks are a perfectly stupid race. - Theodore Roosevelt

What's your opinion on this conflict? Is it like Iraq?

[Capitalist Lawyer]

I just have to wonder, how many other nations has the USA conquered and taken over and incorporated into the sphere of control of the US government? Such as what happened to the Baltic nations, much of Eastern Europe, south Asia, and for a time Afghanistan, under the control of the Soviets?

I don't buy into this crap about an American Empire and how the USA is no different than empires of the past, such as the Romans, the British and the Soviets.

Communists comparing America to the Soviet Empire (which built walls to keep people IN,) sent tanks to take over cities from Tallinn to Budapest and sent dissidents to gulags or Siberia for daring to challenging Moscow's authority is an ignorant insult.

[Comrade-Z]

So you're saying that the U.S. empire has been a "kindler, gentler, and less far-reaching" empire compared to others. I suppose you could make that argument, although I don't buy it. Still, would that be something to be "proud" of?

"Imperialist and PROUD!"

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e326/Zeiter/Filipino_casualties_on_the_first_da.jpg

Filippino casualties on the first day of war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Insurrection

[Capitalist Lawyer]

That was a hundred years ago, but I know what types of arguments you communists reach for while discussing American imperialism in the 20th and 21st century.


In 95% of the 132 countries with a "US Military Presence," that presence consists of a handful of Marines guarding the US Embassy. Somehow you've twisted the notion of keeping our State Department employees safe into a vast, imperialistic enterprise.

If the government of South Korea, Japan, Iceland, Germany, Britain, Turkey etc. asked us to remove our troops, we'd do it in a New York minute. Case in point: Subic Bay, the Phillipines.

And, yes, I believe that will be true of Iraq as well when a stable, democratically-elected government is in place. Obviously you disagree with that belief, but only time will tell who is right. You state your belief as though it were a matter of indisputable fact, with your usual condescending attitude.

As for the so-called "cultural imperialism," I'm not aware that Disney, Coca Cola or MacDonalds has armed military forces coercing people to consume their products at gunpoint. The term "cultural imperialism" is laughable...it is demeaning to non-Americans, implying that they are not capable of choosing wisely on their own, but rather are somehow hypnotized by our Hollwood glitz and need to be saved from themselves.

If people in another country freely choose to watch a movie made and Hollywood instead of (or in addition to) one produced in their own country, why do you view that as a threat? How is that imperialism? Of if they freely choose to eat a burger at MacDonalds once in a while instead of the food typical of their own culture, why do you on the left feel so threatened by that?

[MichaelCollins]

We have no business in Iraq. Saddam's "connections to terrorism" were giving money to the families of palestinian suicide bombers. All I have to say is: Good for him! I hate Israel and anyone who is agaisnt Israel is OK with me.

Second, we have been 50 years in Korea. the "Communist" North is starving to death and the "Capitalist" South doesn't appreciate us. If we're not going to invade the North and FINISH THE DAMNED WAR, then there is no point in being there.

Our presence in Afganistan... well... frankly, America is guilty of everything Bin Laden says we are.

Our presense in Cuba... well... whatever. We got that little chunk of land fair-and-square vs. Spain. Im not sure we still NEED it though, and right now we're just using it to beat up on Muslims. Sure they're "terrorists," but if we had lost the Revolution we'd be reading about how Benadict Arnold was a great hero of the short-lived North American Insurection and George Washington and Patrick Henry would be "terrorists" and "traitors." ie, its all in how you look at it and who wins.

America does maintain an Empire. Though the majority of our engagements, especially these days, are not for American interests at all. the US Government is inflatrated with Zionists who are pulling the strings. That is why we are in Iraq. That is why we're picking a fight with Iran.

[Janus]

Similar except the US was trying to directly gain control of the Phillipines and establish supreme authority there.