I'm Having Second Thoughts About This...

["Freedom"Fighter]

Oh my lord. I have just been researching the South African Genocides and I am sickened. I don't think I can be a part of this site and support this kind of thing. After seeing these I don't want to ever see black people again. This is what you are supporting, I am heading back to a White Nationalism site. This is just sickening, how are you going to ever live in a peaceful society with psychopaths like these.

Look at what you are supporting. You are supporting the perpertrators of these crimes moving into our neighbourhoods and countries. I am sorry but I do not want to be a part of this anymore. Only a true savage is capable of something like this.

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/farm_murder...eb_28_2004.html (http://www.ogrish.com/archives/farm_murders_in_south_africa_Feb_28_2004.html)

[RedAnarchist]

Obviously you never heard of the Soweto massacre and apartheid as a whole.

[Enragé]

:huh: what do the acts of a few have to do with an entire "race"?

I am white, hitler was white

does that mean I killed 10 million? :blink:

["Freedom"Fighter]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 03:04 PM
:huh: what do the acts of a few have to do with an entire "race"?

I am white, hitler was white

does that mean I killed 10 million? :blink:
A few? No, I know thats not true. What really gets me about these is the savageness of the murders more than anything. You can't do that unless you are an absolutely sick, cold blooded ... euch i don't know what. Did you see the baby they lit on fire?

[ComradeOm]

Have you even been here a day?

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Freedom_Fighter+Jul 28 2006, 04:10 PM--> (Freedom_Fighter @ Jul 28 2006, 04:10 PM)
[email protected] 28 2006, 03:04 PM
:huh: what do the acts of a few have to do with an entire "race"?

I am white, hitler was white

does that mean I killed 10 million? :blink:
A few? No, I know thats not true. What really gets me about these is the savageness of the murders more than anything. You can't do that unless you are an absolutely sick, cold blooded ... euch i don't know what. Did you see the baby they lit on fire? [/b]
That site just shows pictures of dead people. We know nothing about the perpetrattors, and one of the victims is an African, so how can you prove who did it?

[Enragé]

Originally posted by Freedom_Fighter+Jul 28 2006, 03:10 PM--> (Freedom_Fighter @ Jul 28 2006, 03:10 PM)
[email protected] 28 2006, 03:04 PM
:huh: what do the acts of a few have to do with an entire "race"?

I am white, hitler was white

does that mean I killed 10 million? :blink:
A few? No, I know thats not true. What really gets me about these is the savageness of the murders more than anything. You can't do that unless you are an absolutely sick, cold blooded ... euch i don't know what. Did you see the baby they lit on fire? [/b]
err actually i didnt but what does that have to do with race?!

NAZIS GASSED, SHOT, MAIMED, RAPED, and most likely burnt babies too
but that doesnt have anything to do with the "white race" being more inclined to do so

people under fucked circumstances do fucked things, REGARDLESS OF RACE

white people do fucked things
black poeple do fucked things
yellow people do fucked things
fuck, if there were purple people they'd do fucked things too!
UNDER FUCKED CIRCUMSTANCES

It has absolutely NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH to do with "race" because "race" is a social construct, not actually an objective phenomenon.

What i can say however is that "white nationalists" are more inclined to burn babies (of other "races") than other "whites" or other people in general.
So yea
if you want to be like them'
by all means go
i just dont think you would want that.

[RedAnarchist]

These claims of genocide were contradicted by the South African Government Committee of Inquiry into Farm Attacks report published in 2003.[3] The Committee found that:

Only a small proportion of attacks involve murder.
Theft was committed in almost all cases - in cases where no theft appeared to take place, it was usually because the attackers were disturbed.
White people were not targeted exclusively - in 2001, the report found that 61% of victims of farm attacks were white.
The proportion of white victims had decreased over the four years immediately prior to the report (figures released in 2004 by AgriSA, which claims to represent 70,000 commercial farmers[7], suggest that the number of attacks has continued to fall annually[8])


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Farm_Murders


Sounds like you are making a mountain out of a molehill, and accusing an entire race of commiting acts in which africans have also been attacked and/or killed.

[Zero]

At first they wanted them to get out of the country, and that seemed reasonable.
Next they wanted to deny them rights if they are citizens, and that seemed reasonable.
After that they wanted to ...

*to be continued if we don't stop White Nationalism now.*

[Comrade J]

I think this guy with his 8 posts is already a white nationalist who wanted to convert us somehow, or perhaps at least draw attention to this act of genocide.

Anyway 'Freedom Fighter' was surely never a communist of any sort, no comrade would be changed so easily to a white nationalist cause. White people have commited hundreds of acts of murder, slaughtering the Native tribes of North America and putting the aboriginal tribes of Australia into slavery etc. but I don't have anything against white people as a whole (especially considering I myself, am white.)

Just because some people of a particular skin colour once did an awful thing, you can't then say that all those of that skin colour are to blame, in all honesty such a belief is positively fucking stupid. You're therefore to blame for the slaughter of Native Americans, the deaths of 12,000,000 people in the Third Reich and many other atrocities.

["Freedom"Fighter]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 03:16 PM
Only a small proportion of attacks involve murder.
Ok, what would you define as a 'small proportion'? This could mean anything, tell me what 'proportion' you think they mean, just a rough percentage. How small?

[An archist]

Really, read all the posts above and come to a conclusion, if acts of a small percentage of people of the smae skin color are represantative for all the people of that skin color, you should hate everyone on this planet.
By the way: the white nationailst guys are advocating the murder of all non-whites (that means they include babies)

[Led Zeppelin]

Freedom_Fighter, if you hate all people of a certain ethnicity because of the actions of a tiny minority you are a moron.

How is the KKK skinning "black" (I really hate that word) people any better?

["Freedom"Fighter]

Originally posted by An [email protected] 29 2006, 10:09 AM
By the way: the white nationailst guys are advocating the murder of all non-whites (that means they include babies)
Oookay... I have done quite a bit of research on them and I don't think that's true. Where did you hear that? I would still like my question about the 'small proportion' answered too, I'm not saying it has to be done by you, but either by the poster who said that or someone else...

I don't get the feeling you guys are being all that truthful...

["Freedom"Fighter]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 10:47 AM
Freedom_Fighter, if you hate all people of a certain ethnicity because of the actions of a tiny minority you are a moron.

How is the KKK skinning "black" (I really hate that word) people any better?
Are you comparing the KKK on the same scale as the South African genocides? Thats not realistic, far from it.

But obviously most of the KKK are idiots, i'm not denying that, i didn't say i like them, but the two are not even on the same level.

[rioters bloc]

this is moronic. she/he was clearly never a leftist/anti-racist to begin with <_<

from his/her intro:


Also I know you guys will probably hate me for saying this but I&#39;ve had a look at a few sites to do with white nationalism and stuff like that and I think they bring up a few good points. Are they really that bad as everyone says? They told me that they aren&#39;t violent and skinheads and stuff. The reason that I looked at their site is because well I&#39;ve had alot of black people do mean things to me and my family. It always seems like the black kids are getting in fights and trouble at school too. I mean i&#39;m not racist but I&#39;m not really sure what to believe right now. My brother just got beaten up quite bad by 3 black guys at a party and it makes me really angry.

so why isn&#39;t she/he banned yet? :huh:

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by Freedom_Fighter+Jul 29 2006, 10:56 AM--> (Freedom_Fighter @ Jul 29 2006, 10:56 AM)
[email protected] 29 2006, 10:47 AM
Freedom_Fighter, if you hate all people of a certain ethnicity because of the actions of a tiny minority you are a moron.

How is the KKK skinning "black" (I really hate that word) people any better?
Are you comparing the KKK on the same scale as the South African genocides? Thats not realistic, far from it.

But obviously most of the KKK are idiots, i&#39;m not denying that, i didn&#39;t say i like them, but the two are not even on the same level. [/b]
Of course they are not on the same level, but who cares?

The holocaust is on a "higher" level, what&#39;s your point?

[Guest1]

You my friend, are banned. Strongbad say:

http://img42.exs.cx/img42/9045/deleted.jpg

[Guest1]

Oh, and your name is changed so the other member by your name doesn&#39;t get associated with your racist crap.

You know, just the paranoia of someone who&#39;s seen trolls before.

[Mujer Libre]

When I saw South African genocide I thought the OP meant apartheid and white settlement. How wrong I was. o0
Oh poor white South Africans living in luxury while the majority of people live in squalor... :o Hey, maybe that has something to do with violent crime in SA?

[Gryphon]

Why do get the feeling that moron was actually from Stormfront? They must encourage their members to create accounts here to harass use with all the &#39;white nationalist&#39; bullshit.

[Raisa]

Originally posted by "Freedom"[email protected] 28 2006, 02:56 PM
Oh my lord. I have just been researching the South African Genocides and I am sickened. I don&#39;t think I can be a part of this site and support this kind of thing. After seeing these I don&#39;t want to ever see black people again. This is what you are supporting, I am heading back to a White Nationalism site. This is just sickening, how are you going to ever live in a peaceful society with psychopaths like these.

Look at what you are supporting. You are supporting the perpertrators of these crimes moving into our neighbourhoods and countries. I am sorry but I do not want to be a part of this anymore. Only a true savage is capable of something like this.

http://www.ogrish.com/archives/farm_murder...eb_28_2004.html (http://www.ogrish.com/archives/farm_murders_in_south_africa_Feb_28_2004.html)
bah......no use crying over spilt milk :o