Hey Guys, I'm New Here!

["Freedom"Fighter]

Hi guys (and gals). I'm a 16 year old male and I would like to introduce myself to this site and also ask a few questions if that's alright! For privacy reasons I don't really want to say my name but that shouldnt really matter.

First of all I'm a bit confused about my beliefs at the moment really. I wan't to join some sort of political activist group or something but I'm not really sure what.

What is it you guys are all about? Also are you different to plain 'non-racists', or are you guys just pretty similar but you guys are a bit more politically active?

Also I know you guys will probably hate me for saying this but I've had a look at a few sites to do with white nationalism and stuff like that and I think they bring up a few good points. Are they really that bad as everyone says? They told me that they aren't violent and skinheads and stuff. The reason that I looked at their site is because well I've had alot of black people do mean things to me and my family. It always seems like the black kids are getting in fights and trouble at school too. I mean i'm not racist but I'm not really sure what to believe right now. My brother just got beaten up quite bad by 3 black guys at a party and it makes me really angry.

Second of all what exactly are you guys here trying to achieve and how do you go about it? I don't really know much about you guys to be honest. Why do you call yourself 'reds'? Also what's all this Left and Right wing stuff? Do most of you guys believe in christianity? Also I'm kinda embarrased to admit this but I am kinda a bit gay curious, but I haven't really told my family or anything yet. One of the things that I don't like about white nationalism is that they are against homosexuals? Why is this?

Thanks guys, I look forward to learning more about your beliefves and stuff.

[Rollo]

There are all sorts here, ranging from Communists, Marxists, Leninists, Anarchists, anti fascists and just plain assholes that like to troll.

White nationalism is bad. Do you have or know adleast one coloured or ethnic person? They will be sent away to there land of origin, fascism is a terrible thing to be apart of.

Anyways I hope you stick around and post some of your opinions.

//Rollo

["Freedom"Fighter]

Can you like me to any good information about Marxists and Communists and Leninists?

[Lord Testicles]

Hi, welcome.

I would like to give you some advice - steer clear away from white nationalists or racists of any kind, they only serve to divide the human race through mythical differences.

As for what we believe here are some sites that could help.

What is Communism - Che-Lives article. (http://www.che-lives.com/home/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=210)

Work Community Politics War - Prole.info (http://www.prole.info/introduction/intro_0.html)

The RS2K Papers. (http://www.redstar2000papers.com/)

Marxist.com (http://www.marxist.com/)

Libcom (http://www.libcom.org.uk)

EDIT: Grammer.

[Rollo]

Wikipedia.org would be pretty good. Altho it is semi right winged

http://marxists.org is pretty good too

["Freedom"Fighter]

Thanks for the links guys, I look forward to reading them!

[An archist]

Oh and about black people getting more in fights then other people: that may be true, but it has nothing to do with their skin colour. Ok, well indirectly it does.
People who don't have white skin tend to be discriminated: they get paid less etc.
Because of this, you will find more black people in lower social classes. and of course: people in lower social classes have more chances of commiting criminal acts, because they don't have as much money as the rest of the people.
In short, that's it, I can give you the longer explanation if you would like to. By the way, if people try telling you that racism exists because people of other 'races' are more violent or criminal, they are lying, racism existed when people of different skin colour met: white people saw black people and took them as slaves.

Don't let the racists fool you: they say the easy thing to believe: look a black man is robbing a store, all black men must be thieves!
We look for the real reason why the guy robbed the store and fix it.

[bezdomni]

Aside from the obvious practical problems with White Nationalism, it also lacks any form of actual theoretical analysis.

The bulk of WN social analysis boils down to "there are different races and they would be happier and more productive if they were separated". That's obvious bullshit.

Marxism is theoretically superior, because it isn't based on a bullshit premise and it has a materialist analysis of history. Marxism actually explains why things happen, and can give us some insight as to what humanity faces in the future. Marxism is based on an objective analysis of material reality, while WN is the manifestation of bourgeois lies and a lack of class consciousness. All racialist ideologies serve one purpose: to divide and distract the working class in a manner that makes revolution impossible.

White Nationalism is not only an abhorrent goal, but it is an impractical and theoretically backwards bourgeois ideology.

[bezdomni]

Sorry to double post, but I just read the rest of what you had to say.


The reason that I looked at their site is because well I've had alot of black people do mean things to me and my family. It always seems like the black kids are getting in fights and trouble at school too. I mean i'm not racist but I'm not really sure what to believe right now. My brother just got beaten up quite bad by 3 black guys at a party and it makes me really angry.
Race has nothing to do with the fact that your brother was beaten up. It is mostly the fault of capitalism and oppression that people feel angry and bring it out on one another. Communists and Anarchists stand against this, because we believe in taking out our anger on the system and establishment of capitalism, not our brothers and sisters who are oppressed. The goal is not to "send them away and let them treat it themselves", because this is a problem that faces all of humanity. The real enemy is capitalism and the people who perpetuate that system. The sooner you and the people at your school realize this, the sooner there will be less infighting and problems at school and more of a movement towards socialism!

Anyway, there is only one fact that is true for every single black person on Earth: They are human beings. That is the most important and accurate generalization.


Why do you call yourself 'reds'?
I was unaware that most of us do. Regardless, Red is the color that is generally associated with Communism.


Also what's all this Left and Right wing stuff?
Left wingers believe in an economy controlled by the people and for the people (communism), while right-wingers believe in an economy controlled by an elite that rules over the people (capitalism).



Do most of you guys believe in christianity?
No, we are mostly atheists.


Also I'm kinda embarrased to admit this but I am kinda a bit gay curious, but I haven't really told my family or anything yet.
That's cool. We have several gay members on this forum and are 100% pro-gay rights.


One of the things that I don't like about white nationalism is that they are against homosexuals? Why is this?
Because they have a very backwards and unrealistic analysis of human society. The far-right wing (which is where the majority of the WN community stands) is extremely homophobic and typically has a very backwards view on human sexuality.

Homosexuality is normal. Some experience homosexual feelings more than others...and some hardly experience such feelings at all. Homosexuality is nothing more and nothing less than normal sexuality.

[Delta]

Welcome to RevLeft, and I hope you enjoy your stay :D

[ahab]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 12:15 PM
Can you like me to any good information about Marxists and Communists and Leninists?
There is no good information, look into anarcho-syndicalism.

Yea fasict racist fucks are no good, you just need to get out of the town ur in, most brothers are nice guys and girls, but for no reason should you look into white supremicist bullshit, they are racist, homophobic, crazy assholes.

but welcome to revleft