Catholic Pedos

[elmo sez]

Why has then been so many cases of children being sexually abused within the Catholic Church especially in Ireland and areas of the US with Irish priests ?

Is this an isolated thing ?

[Sadena Meti]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 11:15 AM
Why has then been so many cases of children being sexually abused within the Catholic Church especially in Ireland and areas of the US with Irish priests ?

Is this an isolated thing ?
The actual numbers are interesting, because the percent of offenders ranges from 0.5%-1.5% in the Catholic church. It is actually higher in other denominations, there was one US protestant denomination that is big in the north plane states which had nearly 5%. Similarly, the rate of occurance amongst school teachers was also higher than amongst Catholic priests. But you wouldn't think so to watch the media.


A bit like a few years ago, during the "Summer of the Sharks", when the media was thick with shark attack stories. From the media, you would think that shark attacks had doubled. In reality, they were DOWN by 10% that year.

[Janus]

I never heard of a link made to Irish priests.

But the fact is that sexual abuse especially on young children generally goes unreported which allows it to continue for a while.

Any embarrasments on religion should be good though it is quite sad that children had to suffer for it.

[elmo sez]

Theres was a massive amount of sexual abuse carried out by priests in Ireland , especially in the industrial schools

[Free Left]

Theres was a massive amount of sexual abuse carried out by priests in Ireland , especially in the industrial schools

The abuse in industrial schools was not commited just by priests. It was carried out by all members of staff.

[Forward Union]

one word "celebacy"

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by Additives [email protected] 28 2006, 01:03 PM
one word "celebacy"
Couple that with the fact that catholicism also tends to segregate genders and you have a nice pot of paedophile stew.

What's the difference between a priest and a pimple?

A pimple waits until you're 13 before coming on your face.



Thank you ladys and germs, I'll be here all week.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Additives [email protected] 28 2006, 02:03 PM
one word "celebacy"
Absolutely. That and the fact that they can't get married so they take their sexual frustrations out on the alter boys which is fucking wrong. If only the Catholic Church would allow them to get married maybe the cases of sexual abuse would lower.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by Additives [email protected] 29 2006, 06:03 AM
one word "celebacy"
That seems a bit dubious to me.

Why would celebacy lead to pedophilia and not sex with other adults? There's no causal link between celebacy and pedophilia at all.

Perhaps its that some of the people who become catholic priest do so with the knowledge that they will have 'accesss' to young people, as 'altar boys', in a relationship with a catholic school, or as part of the church more generally? And with the aura of authority that surrounds 'gods representatives on earth', they understand that the chances they will not be reported are quite high - with sexual abuse already one of the most under-reported crimes in contemporary society.

[Sadena Meti]

It is not the "job" of a priest that leads to pedophilia, nor the conditions of that job. The ones that become pedophiles would almost certainly have done the same if they had chosen a career in architecture.

The reason there seems to be a higher concentration amongst priests than architects is due to why they choose to become a priest. They have certain feelings and desires, they feel ashamed of them, feel they are evil, and see the monastic and celibate life of priesthood as a way of locking it off. A life a holy contemplation, and denial of temptation. So they follow that path, and are relieved. But the tendencies are still there, just even more repressed. They fester. They lurk. Ever notice that the pedo priests had normal "track records" for the first half of their priestly life? Then around 40+ start their depravity?

The problem would have been avoided if they had gone to a psychologist instead of a seminary. Also society's demonization of homosexuality stunted their psycho-sexual development. The sociological "trauma" of homosexual feelings stunts their psycho-sexual development in a pubescent state. Unconsciously, the target of their sexual desires is frozen at that age. Then at 40 they begin to act on their fantasies, and go after children who's physical age is the same as their (the priests') psycho-sexual age.

Just one theory, and it doesn't apply to all pedophiles, but it does to some. Some target children as objects of purity and innocence, either out of the desire to embrace purity, or the desire to defile purity. Many different psychological causes of pedophilia.

Some people may be reflexively offended that I am linking homosexuality to pedophilia. Not exactly what I am saying. I'm saying that the sociological trauma caused by the demonization of homosexuality (and religion plays a major role here) can stunt psycho-sexual development. And if you don't believe that there is a link, look at the numbers. Something like 90% of pedo cases by priests targeted young boys. And it's not because "they have access to altar boys", they have access to both genders.

Much in the same way the social teachings of the shame of nudity leads to flashing.

[emma_goldman]

"The most pristine are hiding everything." - Propagandhi

It's like people who cheat on their boyfriend or girlfriend and then accuse them of cheating. It's hypocritical but I think it's either 1) a way to cover it up or 2) to elimate inner guilt.

Maybe? :unsure:

[TC]

Originally posted by Black Dagger+Jul 29 2006, 05:38 AM--> (Black Dagger @ Jul 29 2006, 05:38 AM)
Additives [email protected] 29 2006, 06:03 AM
one word "celebacy"
That seems a bit dubious to me.

Why would celebacy lead to pedophilia and not sex with other adults? There's no causal link between celebacy and pedophilia at all.

Perhaps its that some of the people who become catholic priest do so with the knowledge that they will have 'accesss' to young people, as 'altar boys', in a relationship with a catholic school, or as part of the church more generally? And with the aura of authority that surrounds 'gods representatives on earth', they understand that the chances they will not be reported are quite high - with sexual abuse already one of the most under-reported crimes in contemporary society. [/b]
I agree that it makes no sense that there would be a causal link between celebacy and pedophilia.



But rather it might be that true pedophiles (rather than situational-child molestors who are the more common kind) are more likely to be priests because they don't mind the notion of celebacy since they aren't sexually attracted to adults anyways, and it wouldn't be socially acceptable for them to act on their desires regardless of their profession.