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Raisa
27th July 2006, 08:42
Sometimes cheese has an animal ingredient called Rennet that comes from the stomach of slaugtered baby cows.
It helps the cheese become cheese.
Thats some nasty shit.....


So to all the vegetarians who feel like their in the clear cause they just eat cheese,
cheese got baby cows stomachs in it sometimes!

And soap got pork in it. Its called Sodium Tallowate I think. Cause Tallow is animal fat.

We been rubbing swine all over ourselves!

Severian
27th July 2006, 11:57
That's a little odd. Kinda like a religious taboo; the cheese is ritually unclean because it has trace amounts of meat in it.

The cows are gonna be slaughtered anyway, y'know.

Nothing Human Is Alien
27th July 2006, 12:17
And soap got pork in it.

So does gelatin, marshmallows, rice crispy treats, pop tarts, etc. etc.

Ian
27th July 2006, 12:25
I eat meat. I don't care.

ÑóẊîöʼn
27th July 2006, 13:00
I've known this for a long time, and I still don't give a shit.

Cheese is awesome.

Ian
27th July 2006, 13:52
Most Beer has fish extract in it (in the finings)

rioters bloc
27th July 2006, 16:44
Originally posted by Lennie [email protected] 27 2006, 07:18 PM

And soap got pork in it.

So does gelatin, marshmallows, rice crispy treats, pop tarts, etc. etc.
ye, which is why a lot of vegetarians don't eat those things. they check the emulsifiers and stuff in the ingredients before buying food.

Jazzratt
27th July 2006, 16:47
Strange how cheese doesn't kill you the way you go apeshit about what's in it.

My sister's vegetarian so I know that nearly everything conatians animal stuff, it really doesn't bother me though.

Janus
27th July 2006, 19:02
Some fresh cheeses are curdled using acidity so not all cheeses contain rennet, just most of them.

Rollo
27th July 2006, 19:04
I only eat the cheese Janus is speaking of because I always get a rash on my face from normal cheese.

Janus
27th July 2006, 20:18
On your face? If you were allergic to it wouldn't it affect you elsewhere or be potentially dangerous?

I've never heard of an allergy to cheese though I know many who are lactose intolerant.

Rollo
28th July 2006, 07:47
Yeah on my face, don't think it was an actual allergic reaction but it was similiar to hives.

Janus
28th July 2006, 18:17
Oh, I see. Then it is an allergy but it generally occurs due to the combinations of two foods.

Delta
28th July 2006, 21:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 10:43 PM
Sometimes cheese has an animal ingredient called Rennet that comes from the stomach of slaugtered baby cows.

That's the only reason why I eat cheese personally.

Qwerty Dvorak
28th July 2006, 22:04
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 09:26 AM
I eat meat. I don't care.
Quoted for fuck yeah

apathy maybe
30th July 2006, 07:45
That's why you buy cheese that says non-animal rennet in the list of ingredients. And instead of gelatine you get agar-agar.

But if you are serious about not hurting animals, perhaps you shouldn't be using dairy products either? The dairy industry is pretty bad quite often. Calves are taken away from mothers when they are quite young. Often they then goto veal farms and are turned into veal.

Got to watch out ...

(And apparently all those soy products come from areas where the rainforest was cleared to make way for the farmland.)

Nothing Human Is Alien
30th July 2006, 08:12
That's the only reason why I eat cheese personally.

:lol::lol::lol:

Rollo
30th July 2006, 08:46
Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 30 2006, 02:46 PM
That's why you buy cheese that says non-animal rennet in the list of ingredients. And instead of gelatine you get agar-agar.

But if you are serious about not hurting animals, perhaps you shouldn't be using dairy products either? The dairy industry is pretty bad quite often. Calves are taken away from mothers when they are quite young. Often they then goto veal farms and are turned into veal.

Got to watch out ...

(And apparently all those soy products come from areas where the rainforest was cleared to make way for the farmland.)
That's true, my aunty went to brazil and theres huge soy factories in parts of the rainforest. Or used to be rainforest.

Raisa
30th July 2006, 09:50
Originally posted by apathy [email protected] 30 2006, 04:46 AM
That's why you buy cheese that says non-animal rennet in the list of ingredients. And instead of gelatine you get agar-agar.

But if you are serious about not hurting animals, perhaps you shouldn't be using dairy products either? The dairy industry is pretty bad quite often. Calves are taken away from mothers when they are quite young. Often they then goto veal farms and are turned into veal.

Got to watch out ...

(And apparently all those soy products come from areas where the rainforest was cleared to make way for the farmland.)
I am not an animal rights activist. I just limit my intake of animal flesh because its a dirty thing to eat.
Its bad for you.
And I never eat beef or pork.

Felicia
30th July 2006, 11:18
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 02:43 AM
Sometimes cheese has an animal ingredient called Rennet that comes from the stomach of slaugtered baby cows.
It helps the cheese become cheese.
Thats some nasty shit.....


So to all the vegetarians who feel like their in the clear cause they just eat cheese,
cheese got baby cows stomachs in it sometimes!

And soap got pork in it. Its called Sodium Tallowate I think. Cause Tallow is animal fat.

We been rubbing swine all over ourselves!
you mean aside from the fact cheese comes from cows or goats anyway? :lol:

RaiseYourVoice
30th July 2006, 11:21
(And apparently all those soy products come from areas where the rainforest was cleared to make way for the farmland.)
correct, much of the rainforest is being destroyed for soy plantations, but those soy beens are mostly used to feed the animals we eat. so its actually not the soy eaters destroying the rain forest, its the meat eaters.

Raisa
30th July 2006, 12:27
Originally posted by Felicia+Jul 30 2006, 08:19 AM--> (Felicia @ Jul 30 2006, 08:19 AM)
[email protected] 27 2006, 02:43 AM
Sometimes cheese has an animal ingredient called Rennet that comes from the stomach of slaugtered baby cows.
It helps the cheese become cheese.
Thats some nasty shit.....


So to all the vegetarians who feel like their in the clear cause they just eat cheese,
cheese got baby cows stomachs in it sometimes!

And soap got pork in it. Its called Sodium Tallowate I think. Cause Tallow is animal fat.

We been rubbing swine all over ourselves!
you mean aside from the fact cheese comes from cows or goats anyway? :lol: [/b]
I dont know what the hell you tryna say, but I mean aside from the fact it comes from cows and goats, the stomach of the calf is used to help in the making of the cheese, and this ingrediant is called rennet.

Mediterranean countries - which are predominantly islamic, and wouldnt eat that anyway cause it is not halal...use since ancient times usually, thyme or something of that sort, a plant.

Other places use the cow stomach in the making of cheese point being, that means something DOES have to die to make cheese alot of times, so the whole "eating cheese doesnt kill animals so its ok" thing, is bullshit.

That was the point.
SHAZAM

Ian
30th July 2006, 13:14
Cheese is Halal.

Forward Union
30th July 2006, 14:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 05:43 AM
We been rubbing swine all over ourselves!
HOLY SON OF TORAH!

Janus
31st July 2006, 22:28
^Please refrain from spamming.



I just limit my intake of animal flesh because its a dirty thing to eat.
What do you mean by "dirty"?


Its bad for you.
If consumed too much, then yeah but so are a lot of other things.

TC
4th August 2006, 16:48
well i don't care about the rainforest so i'll still eat soy.


anyways what kindof cheese contain cow parts?

Physco Bitch
5th August 2006, 21:31
Has it just taken most people this long to work out this information? If vegetarions are really that bothered - there is such a thing as vegetarion cheese and for that matter quiet a lot of soaps are not made out of pork fat anymore. You can also buy soaps that specifically state that they do not contain such ingridents. Then again on the subject maybe vegetarions shouldn't eat fish , chicken and eggs- as some seem to do thinking it doesn't count. Belive me it does- IT IS ALL MEAT! There are many meats i do not like (and cannot touch) but i cannot afford to live a vegetarion lifestyle- being as there is so much expensive stuff you have to buy to keep all of your immune system in check after giving up meat. Then again i can't eat cheese either. :lol:

FatFreeMilk
6th August 2006, 08:07
Seeing that there's so much you could consider inhumane about the food making process of practically every food that contains animal product, people who actually think they care about animals might as well become vegans.


But until then, ignorance is bliss. And delicious.

Raisa
6th August 2006, 11:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 01:49 PM
well i don't care about the rainforest so i'll still eat soy.


anyways what kindof cheese contain cow parts?
WHen you look on the back it will say Rennet. and IF that rennet doesnt have the word vegetable or something that is not meat before it liek this " blablabla, ____ rennet" then it is from an animal.

Corvus
19th August 2006, 23:22
Ive just been doing some catching up in this forum, and it suprises me how little people who call themselves communists care about other beings. Homocentric much?

I happen to be vegan (and since most of you seem uneducated in this topic, that means no eggs, diary products, latex, or meat.

Does it not occur to any of you meat eaters that cows, pigs, chickens all feel pain? That capitalism -what all you hate- has turned what we think farming is, into industrial farming, a process you happily support? Hypocritically a little?

Chicken, a food loved by many, in western socitey has 1square foot to coop. Gets injected with over 25 types of antibiotics, and 3 types of hormones. And the most brutal process of de-peaking no more than a few hours after hactching. Why? Chickens with beaks are lost profitable.

Cattle in Brazail, Canada, and Unite States has increased in size not by crossbreading, but by hormones -once again, hormones- by over 35%. Why? So capitalist can make more money off your "right to eat meat".

And here you people are. Drinking thier milk, eatting thier flesh. The same flesh those hormones inbed themselves in. Healthly?

Many people see wrong in sweatshops. But yet most of you see no wrong in factory farming? What the fuck? People, children, die on sweatshop labour and lack of wages, yet, 300 animals die every second in America alone for consumption!

Oh people are different, we care about people, just not animals?

All creatures are equal, all animals feel pain (some scientific research has recently come out saying fish may not, they brain is infinitly more complex than ours, so we can't be certain) you care about human pain, but not animal pain? We are animals.

'We evolved to eat meat.' Paritally right, kinda wrong. Our eyes are pointed in front of us, this is a trait of hunters, and not hunted, yes. However like all large mamals, they are not carnivourous, but very strong herbi-omnivores. "Your wrong!" Am I? Bears, wolves, coyotes, large primates, all very strong herbivoric-omnivoric tendancies. For example, bears will eat salmon during spawning time yes, however during the other 80% of thier year they prefer the consumption of berries. This can be supported by thier scat.

Anyone who consumes meat, is homocentric, a trait you share with the most dire of capitalists.

You know what I could go on forever, but if you are emptathic as most would like to think, they will do some research on thier own to see the truths of flesh consumption.

"I lived in agony in nasty, diseased waste. The line speed faster, he sliced me in haste. I was boiled alive to take the fur off my skin. Factory Farming is Systemic Sin."

"Crammed in the dark, I live in poop, In one square foot I am forced to coop. Hormones, antibiotics don't ease my pain. 'Til I'm murdered for my remains"

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"

Gandhi


oh one more note. Fruitopia? Not veggie friendly, has crushed up beetles. Latex? Made with meat, almost all soaps hair conditioners, toothpastes, gels, made with animal products. And on the topic of rennat, it is taken out, but still veggies wont eat cheese.

Corvus Corvax

Dr. Rosenpenis
20th August 2006, 02:29
this makes me love cheese even more

Not that I don't care about baby cows. On the contrary. I love baby cows. Veal is delicious and so is cheese. And then they grow up to be mature cows, which I love even more. They are the tastiest animals in the world.
The mere sight of a cow makes my mouth water.

Dr. Rosenpenis
20th August 2006, 02:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 03:23 PM
Ive just been doing some catching up in this forum, and it suprises me how little people who call themselves communists care about other beings. Homocentric much?

I happen to be vegan (and since most of you seem uneducated in this topic, that means no eggs, diary products, latex, or meat.

Does it not occur to any of you meat eaters that cows, pigs, chickens all feel pain? That capitalism -what all you hate- has turned what we think farming is, into industrial farming, a process you happily support? Hypocritically a little?

Chicken, a food loved by many, in western socitey has 1square foot to coop. Gets injected with over 25 types of antibiotics, and 3 types of hormones. And the most brutal process of de-peaking no more than a few hours after hactching. Why? Chickens with beaks are lost profitable.

Cattle in Brazail, Canada, and Unite States has increased in size not by crossbreading, but by hormones -once again, hormones- by over 35%. Why? So capitalist can make more money off your "right to eat meat".

And here you people are. Drinking thier milk, eatting thier flesh. The same flesh those hormones inbed themselves in. Healthly?

Many people see wrong in sweatshops. But yet most of you see no wrong in factory farming? What the fuck? People, children, die on sweatshop labour and lack of wages, yet, 300 animals die every second in America alone for consumption!

Oh people are different, we care about people, just not animals?

All creatures are equal, all animals feel pain (some scientific research has recently come out saying fish may not, they brain is infinitly more complex than ours, so we can't be certain) you care about human pain, but not animal pain? We are animals.

'We evolved to eat meat.' Paritally right, kinda wrong. Our eyes are pointed in front of us, this is a trait of hunters, and not hunted, yes. However like all large mamals, they are not carnivourous, but very strong herbi-omnivores. "Your wrong!" Am I? Bears, wolves, coyotes, large primates, all very strong herbivoric-omnivoric tendancies. For example, bears will eat salmon during spawning time yes, however during the other 80% of thier year they prefer the consumption of berries. This can be supported by thier scat.

Anyone who consumes meat, is homocentric, a trait you share with the most dire of capitalists.

You know what I could go on forever, but if you are emptathic as most would like to think, they will do some research on thier own to see the truths of flesh consumption.

"I lived in agony in nasty, diseased waste. The line speed faster, he sliced me in haste. I was boiled alive to take the fur off my skin. Factory Farming is Systemic Sin."

"Crammed in the dark, I live in poop, In one square foot I am forced to coop. Hormones, antibiotics don't ease my pain. 'Til I'm murdered for my remains"

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated"

Gandhi


oh one more note. Fruitopia? Not veggie friendly, has crushed up beetles. Latex? Made with meat, almost all soaps hair conditioners, toothpastes, gels, made with animal products. And on the topic of rennat, it is taken out, but still veggies wont eat cheese.

Corvus Corvax
Shut up. Jesus Christ.
Yes, we are homocentric. Communism is a homocentric movement. All politics are homocentric. The point of human development is homocentric.

Ian
20th August 2006, 02:45
In most western nations it is illegal to use hormones on chickens and has been since the 1960s, some still use antibiotics, but most antibiotic and hormone use is in central american countries.

It's just another vegan lie.

Next you'll be telling everyone the doozy about penicillin being developed without animal testing, which is of course a lie, it was tested extensively on mice.

Dooga Aetrus Blackrazor
20th August 2006, 03:52
Communism will result in less oppression towards animals, but it will take time before people realize that a few tasty treats are worth the suffering and environmental damage they cause.

da_prole
20th August 2006, 05:45
I watched a special on how they slaughter cows, how they stab it in the neck with a huge knife, then tie a rope to it's horns to pull the head from the body using the fresh wound as leverage.

Then I went and ate some steak.

Xvall
20th August 2006, 05:46
I think it's rather unfortunate that government's can't make exceptions allowing people to consume human.