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Tekun
26th July 2006, 13:53
Many of u might have heard of this already, but for those who haven't....



Olmert regretful over U.N. workers' deaths By HUSSEIN DAKROUB, Associated Press Writer
Wed Jul 26, 2:48 AM ET



BEIRUT, Lebanon - An Israeli bomb destroyed a U.N. observer post on the border in southern Lebanon Tuesday, killing three observers and leaving another feared dead, officials said. U.N. chief Kofi Annan said Israel appeared to have struck the site deliberately.


Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Wednesday expressed "deep regret" over the killings and said the peacekeepers were killed mistakenly. He spoke on the phone with Annan, expressing dismay over Annan's accusation and promising a thorough investigation, according to Olmert's office.

The bomb made a direct hit on the building and shelter of the observer post in the town of Khiam near the eastern end of the border with Israel, said Milos Struger, spokesman for the U.N. peacekeeping force in Lebanon known as UNIFIL.

Annan said two observers were killed with two more feared dead. Later, a U.N. official confirmed that a third body had been recovered. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to publicly discuss the issue.

One of the dead was identified as Chinese U.N. observer Du Zhaoyu, China's official Xinhua News Agency reported. The Chinese Foreign Ministry said Israel's ambassador to Beijing was summoned Wednesday morning and asked to convey China's request that Israel fully investigate the incident and issue an apology to the victim's relatives.

"We are deeply shocked by this incident and strongly condemn it," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said in the statement.

The other three observers were from Austria, Canada and Finland but it wasn't clear which two were confirmed killed, U.N. and Lebanese military officials said.

Israel's U.N. Ambassador Dan Gillerman expressed his "deep regret" for the deaths and denied the post was intentionally targeted.

Rescue workers were trying to clear the rubble, but Israeli firing "continued even during the rescue operation," Struger said.

U.N. officials said four observers were in the post when the bomb hit, and the building had been destroyed. Two bodies had been recovered and two were unaccounted for, apparently still in the rubble. They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

The victims included observers from Austria, a Canada, China and Finland, U.N. and Lebanese military officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information to the media. It was not immediately known which were confirmed dead.

As reports of the attack emerged, Annan rushed out of a hotel in Rome following a dinner with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora.

"I am shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting by Israeli Defense Forces of a U.N. Observer post in southern Lebanon," Annan said in the statement.

Annan said in his statement that the post had been there for a long time and was marked clearly, and was hit despite assurances from Olmert that U.N. positions would not be attacked.

"I call on the government of Israel to conduct a full investigation into this very disturbing incident and demand that any further attack on U.N. positions and personnel must stop," Annan said in the statement.

Gillerman called the assertions "premature and erroneous."

"I am shocked and deeply distressed by the hasty statement of the secretary-general, insinuating that Israel has deliberately targeted the U.N. post," he said.

He said Israel would investigate the bombing. "We do not have yet information what caused this death: it could be the IDF (Israel's military) it could be Hezbollah," he said.

In the meantime, the envoy assured that "Israel remains committed to protecting the safety and security of U.N. personnel on the ground and is doing its utmost to guarantee that they be able to carry out their mission."

The U.N. Security Council was expected to receive a briefing on the bombing on Wednesday.

Since Israel launched a massive military offensive against Lebanon and Hezbollah guerrillas July 12, an international civilian employee working with UNIFIL and his wife have been killed in the crossfire between Israeli forces and Hezbollah guerrillas in the southern port city of Tyre.

Five UNIFIL soldiers and one military observer have also been wounded, Struger said.

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AP U.N. correspondent Edith M. Lederer in New York contributed to this

I think that this event clearly exihibits the real intentions behind Israel's campaign of terror
The fact that they target anything in Lebanon should be enough to convince the entire world that Israel is not concerned with recovering their kidnapped soldiers, but rather their real intention is to destroy and kill as many Lebanese and Palestinians in order to punish and discourage any opposition to their occupation of Arab Palestine
They've killed innocent men, women, children, and now they've killed innocent UN observers...if this won't move the UN to take action against Israel, I don't know what will
But then again, the UN IS owned by the American imperialists, so who knows if their "bosses" will let them punish the Israeli gov

Keyser
26th July 2006, 15:31
The UN will do nothing but issue futile and meaningless statements and nothing more.

Reason being, as you made in your last sentence, is that the UN is actually imperialism and capitalist exploitation with a 'human face'. The UN is really 5 nations (USA, UK, France, Russia and China) that make up the Permanent Secirity Council. All of these 5 nations have no interest in seeing the conflict and it's causes solved as soon as possible and nor could they care for the suffering of the people caught up in this conflict.

The innocent people caught up in this have no side to which they can turn to. The imperialist nations, the UN and Israel on one side and the corrupt Arab regimes (Syria, Jordan, Egypt and others and Iran) will do nothing but make yet more statements about 'Arab unity' and 'anti-Zionism' yet they will not actually do anything, for they are more interested in using their military forces to oppress their own people and keeping themselves in power rather than actually resisting imperialism. Assad, Mubarak, Ahmedinejad and others quite like the comfort of their palaces and offshore bank accounts, why are they going to give that all up for something such as resisting imperialism or actually assiting the innocents of the Middle East in their plight.

Only when the working class, the exploited and the oppressed peoples of the Middle East rise up and expel the forces of imperialism and global capitalism and their own corrupt and rotten regimes, then and only then will they see the suffering, the bigotry and the oppression that they currently suffer, end!

CoexisT
26th July 2006, 18:26
when I saw this on google news I thought "oh shit"


it wen through my brain that:

Israel kills UN

+

UN doesn't really like US that much as it is

+

US LOVES Israel

+

UN really really really doesn't like US now

+

fucking retarded president

=

oh shit

*PRC*Kensei
26th July 2006, 19:04
Originally posted by Anarchism [email protected] 26 2006, 12:32 PM
The UN will do nothing but issue futile and meaningless statements and nothing more.

Reason being, as you made in your last sentence, is that the UN is actually imperialism and capitalist exploitation with a 'human face'. The UN is really 5 nations (USA, UK, France, Russia and China) that make up the Permanent Secirity Council. All of these 5 nations have no interest in seeing the conflict and it's causes solved as soon as possible and nor could they care for the suffering of the people caught up in this conflict.

The innocent people caught up in this have no side to which they can turn to. The imperialist nations, the UN and Israel on one side and the corrupt Arab regimes (Syria, Jordan, Egypt and others and Iran) will do nothing but make yet more statements about 'Arab unity' and 'anti-Zionism' yet they will not actually do anything, for they are more interested in using their military forces to oppress their own people and keeping themselves in power rather than actually resisting imperialism. Assad, Mubarak, Ahmedinejad and others quite like the comfort of their palaces and offshore bank accounts, why are they going to give that all up for something such as resisting imperialism or actually assiting the innocents of the Middle East in their plight.

Only when the working class, the exploited and the oppressed peoples of the Middle East rise up and expel the forces of imperialism and global capitalism and their own corrupt and rotten regimes, then and only then will they see the suffering, the bigotry and the oppression that they currently suffer, end!
i must comment you on this:

imperialist: UN is ment as a world goverment, so... any organisation having the whole world involved is imperialist.

you should make a diffirence between the UN, the security counsel in it (which is a bunch of crap..) , and the world bank (working togetter with the un, giving it it's capitalistic face)

btw... russia & france might have interest in the conflict... but.. the situation is to :o :huh: strange.. that i think they dont know how to act..

Dreckt
26th July 2006, 19:06
Really, I don't think anything will happen. The US went to Iraq, the UN said some short words, and then suddenly, it was all "ok". Now, Israel kills 4 UN troops - once again, nothing will happen.

Because what can happen? What? Sanctions? The US will veto it! The UN is not an organization, but a frame for the world superpowers.

You want peace on earth? Then join the UN. After all, that's their mission... :P

Janus
26th July 2006, 19:08
I've been told that this attack may have been deliberate. Even though this has been the second hit on UN forces, nothing has been done except the condemnations may have grown stronger.

Jamal
26th July 2006, 19:21
Well what I think is that Israel attacked the UN observers so that the UN gets obligated to accept the North Atlantic soldiers to come take controle of the south of Lebanon.

Jamal
26th July 2006, 19:28
In the 1996, Israel bombed the UN post is Kana killing not only 4 from the UN but also 150 Lebanese( mwn, women and ofcourse children.

And what did the UN do NOTHING :angry:

Delta
26th July 2006, 19:35
It's unfortunate that the UN won't do anything, but these events will still have ramifications. Many people who read that in the news will react in a similar way to the way we do.

Voices that carry
26th July 2006, 19:43
UN will not do anything and no one is gonna do nothing to israel i think.Israel is the son of the empire probably making it some part of the empire.The peace keepers killings might just be another message of israel saying ''we will only kill'..Personally,i really am tired of israel's oppressions and am further tired by how the empire ignores israel's mass murdering innocent civilians.This is just another chapter of the Bloody Zionist brutalities. :angry:

TupacAndChe4Eva
26th July 2006, 19:50
Apparently, it was deliberate.

They told Israel 4 times it was a UN ( UNIFIL maybe?) outpost, and gave them the co-ordinates.

When the shelling failed, they called an airstrike in.

:angry:

As sad as this whole situation is, perhaps SOME good will come out of this whole mess. People will see Israel as the Imperialist aggressors they actually are. Continually attacking a Nation that has been brought to its knees, all for the sake of killing a few fanatics, is a disgusting act, and perhaps this whole issue will enlighten the World.

Janus
26th July 2006, 20:09
They told Israel 4 times it was a UN ( UNIFIL maybe?) outpost, and gave them the co-ordinates.

When the shelling failed, they called an airstrike in.
It seems that there were more warnings than that. Israel ignored them for 6 hours.

And as always, there will be an "investigation" into the incident.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5217176.stm

Jamal
26th July 2006, 23:53
yeah like investigations would dare to say that Israel deliberatly killed 4 UN peace keapers

Janus
27th July 2006, 00:02
Nothing ever comes out of those so-called negotiations anyways.


It seems that international talks have broken down. Most nations want Israel to stop but the US wants durable peace as in a Hezbollah disarmament. This is obviously gonna go nowhere.

No consensus in Lebanon cease-fire talks (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060726/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_fighting_diplomacy;_ylt=Ak.nsuvWhakDCK76LY CsRb5vaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--)

Dreckt
27th July 2006, 02:27
Really, do the UN do anything in any other conflict? I mean, have they the power to actually use the weapons they have in their "peace missions"?

Tekun
27th July 2006, 05:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 09:03 PM
Nothing ever comes out of those so-called negotiations anyways.


It seems that international talks have broken down. Most nations want Israel to stop but the US wants durable peace as in a Hezbollah disarmament. This is obviously gonna go nowhere.

No consensus in Lebanon cease-fire talks (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060726/ap_on_re_mi_ea/mideast_fighting_diplomacy;_ylt=Ak.nsuvWhakDCK76LY CsRb5vaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--)
Apparently Condoleeza Rice wants a sustainable peace that will break the status quo between Hezbollah and Israel
In other words, there will be no ceasefire until all opposition to Israel is destroyed, regardless of how many innocent civilians die as a result of their military campaign
The EU has condemned Israel, the UN has condemned them, and yet they've taken no action against them
Dissapointing, yet predicatable

It seems that Rice wants a "New Middle East," one favorable to Israeli and American interests

"It is time for a new Middle East, it is time to say to those who do not want a different kind of Middle East that we will prevail; they will not."


Although many have reproached Iran and Syria among other Arab nations for not coming to the immediate defense of Lebanon
IMO, its a wise move
Both Iran and Syria realize that if they send in their troops to protect Lebanon or take military action against Israel, the Americans will use it as an excuse to attack and invade one country or the other, or both!
Both Israel and the US have continuosly blamed Iran and Syria for Hezbollah's actions, and it appears that they're trying to drag them into the conflict
So from a certain vantage point, its a wise move to evade any direct involvement in the conflict in order not to give the American's an excuse to invade
However, what IS disappointing is Egypt and Saudi Arabia's indifference to the plight of the Lebanese ppl

Jamal
27th July 2006, 15:33
Its not true.
The USA cannot attack because first of all, it cannot afford to do so having two losing front already(Afganstan and Iraq) they truely(well at least in my opinion) cannot afford another front.
Meanwhile all the arab nations are scared of Israel's "ledgendary might" and are afraid to commit to war or they see their interests are to be freinds with Israel and the US.

TupacAndChe4Eva
27th July 2006, 17:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 12:34 PM
Its not true.
The USA cannot attack because first of all, it cannot afford to do so having two losing front already(Afganstan and Iraq) they truely(well at least in my opinion) cannot afford another front.
Meanwhile all the arab nations are scared of Israel's "ledgendary might" and are afraid to commit to war or they see their interests are to be freinds with Israel and the US.
The United States are fighting this war by-proxy, to me that seems obvious.

The sheer amount of arms, etc. the US supplies Israel means Israel is effectively fighting their battles almost as the United States.

Janus
27th July 2006, 19:25
It seems that Rice wants a "New Middle East," one favorable to Israeli and American interests

The US just wants to give more time for the Israelis to attack Hezbollah.


I mean, have they the power to actually use the weapons they have in their "peace missions"?
Their numbers are too small so they would be stupid to actually do something and they have rules of engagement as well.


The sheer amount of arms, etc. the US supplies Israel means Israel is effectively fighting their battles almost as the United States.
Pretty much. It's part of the war against terrorism that Bush started in 2001.

Jamal
28th July 2006, 11:32
Well yes, if you put it that way you are right.

Janus
28th July 2006, 17:43
Anyways, the UN are now leaving the border, mainly to prevent more incidents such as this.

U.N. observers leave Israel-Lebanon border (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060728/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel;_ylt=Ajc_3Za3dAwVLqIrZ4pMtL9vaA8F;_ ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--)

Jamal
29th July 2006, 16:04
yeah and to make way to the NATO forces that are comming! :(

ComradeOm
29th July 2006, 17:14
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2006, 02:44 PM
Anyways, the UN are now leaving the border, mainly to prevent more incidents such as this.
Mission accomplished for the Israelis then. I suppose the UN has little choice in the matter – the nations sending peacekeepers would have demanded it – but its still a humiliating climb-down for the peacekeepers.