FARC - IS it a good organisation.

[Comrade Daniel]

I think we should at least for a part support FARC in their struggle, because I believe that we can justify their acts against the oppressive capitalist government of Colombia. Which allows US multinationals to exploit their own people!

BTW I found this site whith a lot of good pictures http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www...DUTF-8%26sa%3DN (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/farc/farc-prisoners.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/farc-camps.htm&h=288&w=400&prev=/images%3Fq%3DFARC%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dnl%26lr%3Dla ng_nl%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN) (hope it works)
I found more sites about farc as well but I am still searching for a site which gives real detailed information (I haven't found one yet).

(Edited by Comrade Daniel at 7:46 pm on June 2, 2003)

[Dirty Commie]

Aren't their political leanings Marxist-Leninist?

[Comrade Daniel]

Yeah they are at least as far as I know,
I think this pic speaks for itself.

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/farc/jacobo-arenas-poster.jpg

(Edited by Comrade Daniel at 7:48 pm on June 2, 2003)

[dopediana]

at the heart of it, their intentions are truly pure. the civilian deaths are unfortunately part of what happens in a civil war, a revolution. the FARC and the ELN seem to be the parties that have the commoners' best interests at heart. this whole shit about drugs being the evil that's destroying colombia isn't true. it's the fact that coca and opium is the people's livelihood and taking that away won't solve anything. it's making them more resolved to continue growing coca and in smaller patches that won't be detected by satellite. the guerrillas provide what the people want, a market for their goods and protection, as do many drug lords. and the colombian government is trying to strip the people of their rights to exist without poverty. they assassinate all opposing party members in elections and they kidnap, torture, and murder countless union organizers, rebels, strikers, peasants, etc. the guerrillas are my side of preference in the colombia issue.

[Dirty Commie]

A year or so ago, the st. pete times had an article about FARC, it said that the Columbian government ceded so much land over to them only to make it easier to enforce their drug laws/and to lighten tensions from the rest of the world about the treatment of the rebellion.

I didn't beleive most of it, but it put to scale how big FARC is, they control nearly 40% of the land area in Columbia.

I want to know, how many people live in the liberated territory?

[Ze]

I argue that the FARC was a revolutionary force that delved more and more into terrorism and gratuitous violence. The violence perpetrated by the FARC do not advance their cause and is not their only method of combatting the system effectively as in the case of Hizbollah in Palestine. The end does not justify the means.

My home country, Colombia is a dangerous place. I put the blame on the corrupt government who are subservient to the US, the narco-trafficking, and the guerrilla groups.



(Edited by Ze at 4:13 am on June 3, 2003)

[Guardia Bolivariano]

the AUc bastards also have a huge part in Colombia's sufering.

[Kapitan Andrey]

I'm told it about 10 times and I will say it again:

They aren't true revolutionaries!!! They are narco-terrorists!!!

[dopediana]

of course any militant group could potentially be defined as terroristic.

but if one goes to the core of the philosophy behind each group in colombia, the farc and the eln appeal to me.


my friend is moving to colombia with her family. luckily, they'll be way up north on the coast far from the guerrillas and the auc (or so she says). at any rate, i might visit them. i hope everything is alright. someone reassure me.

[Soul Rebel]

I dont necessarily think that FARC is a terrorist group. I believe that as a result of the times changing the actions they carry out are the only way they will get heard. as the amaryllis mentioned: their intentions are pure. i think they have been left with no choice but to carry on the way they do.

its the AUC (autodefensas unidas de colombia) that we need to be worried, especially because the U.S. is supporting their actions by such things as Plan Colombia.

[dopediana]

yes, sra che. the farc for the most part are men and women of humble origins. they don't BENEFIT from the drug trade as the auc leaders, the drug lords, and the government do. they're not sitting on thrones of gold calling out orders to their inferiors. they're up there fighting for the rights of the peasants.

i liked it when i read in an article that some FARC commander told the USA that "those gringos can bring it on. we're ready for them."

i don't advocate fighting at all, but it was pretty funny at the time.

[BRIN]

I'm not surprised the FARC have turned to so called ''terrorism''.From what i've heard the americans are flying over the FARC terrortory and spraying herbecides which is killing the coca as well as all the other crops, live stock,and the eco-system which in turn is killing and starving peasants and farmers.



Last i heard is that the americans where sending troops covertly but wern't finding much success.



GO THE FARC!!!

[Ian]

UN adviser snubs USA ... "FARC is NOT a terrorist group"
From Venezuela's Electronic News (http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=7487)

Special United Nations (UN) delegate for Colombia, James Lemoyne has set the cat among the pigeons, announcing that the 30+ year old Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) should be NOT be considered a terrorist group.

"Despite the methods the group uses, it's is an error to think that FARC are just terrorists as the Colombian government calls them or narco-traffickers because the backbone of the guerrilla movement consists of persons ideologically committed."

Lemoyne says he is in favor of a dialog between the government and guerillas and hasnot ruled out a UN role as a Good Officer because he says the UN's job is to facilitate dialog and communication. "The FARC has a political project and so does the Colombian government. ... the Self-Defense Units of Colombia lays no claim against the State that legitimizes them as a political force."

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Frias has not yet defined his position towards the conflict and has fallen short of accepting the FARC as a belligerent group, while recognizing that Colombia is in a state of civil war.

During the presidency of Andres Pastrana, Chavez Frias said Venezuela was prepared to act as facilitator in peace talks.

Venezuelan governments since Carlos Andres Perez (second administration) have allowed FARC to set up an office in Venezuela also based on the belief that Colombia was in civil war ... since 9/11 the tide has turned against the Colombian guerrillas as regards their generally recognized status among Latin American States as semi-belligerent.

Colombian President Alvaro Uribe and George Bush have initiated a campaign to have FARC declared as a terrorist organization and therefore to be treated as such with an influx of massive USA military aid.

[Comrade Daniel]

Very good story, I must say I am in favor of farc they are fighting for freedom not drugs!

[Guardia Bolivariano]

Hey Diana If you ever come to the venezuelan border give me a call I'll be waiting in my trench.;)

[Dirty Commie]

GB, what's the name of the Maoist (I think they are Maoists) movement there? Aren't they called the Shining Path?

[Conghaileach]

The Shining Path exists in Peru. I'm not sure if they spread into other areas.

[Guardia Bolivariano]

Yes the Shing Path only exists in Peru and is very weak now.

Most guerrilla groups in latinamerica including new ones like in Venezuela and Ecuador are marxist.

[Dirty Commie]

I thought that there was a Marxist movement in Venezuela...

[BRIN]

''I thought that there was a Marxist movement in Venezuela...''

Yeah Chavez,he's trying to model his country after cuba
well thats what it said on a documentary i saw last night.

[Kapitan Andrey]

SenoraChe...don't defend them!

Che wouldn't be happy, if he knew that they are using his face to to attract wolunteers and in other jobs...

They:

1) Growing/traiding narcotics.
2) Stealing people for revard.

This is not revolutionary methods!!!

Of course I hate Para-Militares and Govt. too!

They need 4th force - True Revolutioneers...one question WHERE TO GET MONEY!!!???