Log in

View Full Version : Defining Ideology



Lamanov
23rd July 2006, 23:47
* * *

Ideology is a cluster of ideas of specific social character, orientated around one departure point, which is, in its essence, a fragmentary vision of frozen totality.

By its internal logic, every ideology – as an abstract pretension towards the universal – seeks to become a realized totalitarian vision of reality. By its place in the world, it is a class society’s foundation of thought.


* * *


Well, anyone who is intoduced to Guy Debord and his Society of the Spectacle may see that this definition was inspired by a pretension to draw out a clear definition out of his theses on "Ideology Materialized". Any comments?

Rosa Lichtenstein
24th July 2006, 00:22
DJ: I suspect Debord would have a hard-time saying what a 'Totality' is, without the use of yet more ideology.

That being so, his 'definition' is useless.

The best short article on this topic I have read is this:

http://marxmyths.org/joseph-mccarney/article.htm

[The associated book is even better.]

Lamanov
24th July 2006, 00:25
Totality, as in, the whole functioning world?

P.S, thanks for the link, it seems quite interesting.

Rosa Lichtenstein
24th July 2006, 01:12
DJ: Totality can't be what you say (but even if it were, you had to use ideology to say this, so it cannot be correct!).

Why?

Check this out:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/page%20016-11.htm

hoopla
25th July 2006, 02:25
Why isn&#39;t science an ideology <_<

Rosa Lichtenstein
25th July 2006, 04:17
Hoop:


Why isn&#39;t science an ideology

Unscramble this secret message to find the answer:


Either remove the fingers, or get a new set of boxing gloves

hoopla
28th July 2006, 00:41
Originally posted by Rosa [email protected] 25 2006, 01:18 AM
Hoop:


Why isn&#39;t science an ideology

Unscramble this secret message to find the answer:


Either remove the fingers, or get a new set of boxing gloves

any claims that what we are talking about is meaningless, will HAVE to be shown to be true

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...pic=52498&st=25
:angry:

Man, I am so bored. You haven&#39;t legged it have you, Rosa :huh:

hoopla
28th July 2006, 02:15
I would have thought she would like the attention :unsure:

Rosa Lichtenstein
28th July 2006, 02:32
Hoopla:


I would have thought she would like the attention

I will just as soon a you:


Either remove the fingers, or get a new set of boxing gloves