For The Leader's Immortality

[China studen]

To Safeguard the Leader's Ideology and Exploits


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Preface

Ten-odd years have passed since the army and people of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, with the firm resolve to maintain the ideology and cause of President Kim Il Sung to the last, set out in the death-defying struggle to protect the country and socialism under the great banner of Songun held up by leader Kim Jong Il.

The last decade was indeed the days and nights of emotion when the cause of the leader’s immortality was materialized by Kim Jong Il with high sense of loyalty and morality for the President.

Kim Jong Il saw to it that the army and people have the brightly smiling portrait of the President and the Kumsusan Memorial Palace, where the President lies in state, was built as the supreme temple of the sun, in order to give them the belief that he is immortal.

He set forward the great slogan of faith, which implies tremendous verbal expression, to call on the army and people to carry out the President’s last instructions and authored immortal literary works to show his will to wholly inherit the ideology and cause of the President, thus dealing a heavy blow to the imperialists in their anti-DPRK maneuvers. His noble intention and morality to hold Kim Il Sung in higher esteem gave birth to the Juche era, the Day of the Sun, the Kim Il Sung Constitution that designates Kim Il Sung as the eternal President of the DPRK and the continuing edition of the President’s reminiscences “With the Century”. The world-wide example of the cause of the leader’s immortality has been created.

The Songun politics, the Songun leadership of Kim Jong Il was a crystal of his firm faith and volition to hold up arms ever higher to accomplish the President’s idea and feats of giving the foremost priority to the military affairs.

During the whole period of his Songun leadership, he was always with the President. Whenever he visited the army units in the front he made it a rule to visit the revolutionary battle sites, the historic places of revolution, the revolutionary museums and the monuments to the on-the-spot guidance, which carry the revolutionary life and activities of the President, thus hardening his determination to add luster to the President’s glorious revolutionary history.

True to the will of the President who pioneered and advanced his cause with arms, Kim Jong Il has reinforced the Korean People’s Army into the invincible outpost forces safeguarding socialism so that it can discharge its honorable mission as the independent Royal Guards. Thus he has fully defended and displayed the dignity of Kim Il Sung’s nation.

Immeasurable are the efforts and soul the leader has made to build a prosperous powerful nation, the paradise of the people, true to the behests of the President.

He relieved his fatigue with naps and substituted his regular meals by a few rice-balls on his way of restless field guidance to different parts of the country ranging from east to west, from north to south, so as to call forth upsurges and innovations in building a prosperous powerful nation throughout the country.

Under his devotional leadership, renovation took place in the potato farming in the Taehongdan Plain, the large expanse of Paektu, and land realignment that began in Kangwon Province opened a new history of cataclysmic change in vast expanses of cooperative farms throughout the country. Modern chicken farms, catfish farms, fish farms and light industrial factories have been built and the fresh culture of the Songun era bloomed in different parts of the country, converting the whole country to a socialist fairyland.

In the domain of national reunification, the June 15 era was born and a wide way to reunification has been paved entirely thanks to his noble intention and patriotic magnanimity to promote the day when the whole nation will live happily in a reunified country true to the President’s instructions for reunification.

Really, Kim Jong Il’s ten-year history of revolution is an epic of loyalty full of the sense of morality and obligation for the President and an everlasting wealth to be handed down through generations.

The army and people of the DPRK will hold Kim Il Sung in high esteem forever and faithfully follow Kim Jong Il’s Songun leadership, in order to build a reunified prosperous powerful nation.


Editorial Department

[China studen]

The Eternal Sun

"The great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung will always be with our people."
——Kim Jong Il

To Imbue the Sun's Image

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Kim Jong Il guides the work to make the brightly smiling portrait of Kim Il Sung.

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Kim Jong Il guides the work to hold Kim Il Sung in high esteem as the eternal sun.

When the whole land of Korea was overcome with the bitterest sorrow after the demise of President Kim Il Sung, leader Kim Jong Il gave the army and people the firm faith that the President is immortal.
To imbue the eternal sun's image in the hearts of the army and people he carefully chose one among the photographs of the brightly smiling President and saw to it that a smiling portrait of the President was painted on the highest level.
When the portrait was completed, he went to the studio, and looked at it carefully. Then he said that when the people look at the portrait of the brightly smiling President, they would think that the President will always be with them.

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Funeral held solemnly with the smiling portrait of Kim Il Sung set in front

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Brightly smiling portraits of Kim Il Sung put up in streets and at buildings

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Brightly smiling portraits of Kim Il Sung put up at the Moranbong Youth Outdoor Theatre and the Pyongyang Railway Station building.

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A smiling portrait of Kim Il Sung at the head of the mass demonstration of Pyongyang citizens celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Workers' Party of Korea

The brightly smiling portraits of President Kim Il Sung were always put up high at the head of mass demonstrations held with splendor on the occasion of significant national holidays. Those were emotional scenes produced by the noble fidelity of leader Kim Jong Il to hold the President, benefactor of national liberation, founder of the WPK and the DPRK and founding father of socialist Korea, in high esteem generation after generation.

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A smiling portrait of Kim Il Sung held high during the mass demonstration
of Pyongyang citizens celebrating the 50th anniversary of the DPRK

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A smiling portrait of Kim Il Sung held high during the mass demonstration of Hamhung citizens celebrating the 50th anniversary of national liberation

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Brightly smiling portrait of Kim Il Sung displayed on the background of
the mass gymnastic and artistic performance "Arirang"

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Brightly smiling portrait of Kim Il Sung at the Kimilsungia-Kimjongilia exhibition

[China studen]

Supreme Temple of Juche

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Kim Jong Il teaches on the spot how to build the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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Kim Jong Il looks over the board of model of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

Leader Kim Jong Il, great incarnation of moral obligation, initiated the building of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace and indicated the orientation and ways for it.
While leading the whole affairs of the party, state and army in the forefront of the struggle to defend the country, the nation and socialism, he visited the construction site time and again to instruct in detail how to build the interior and exterior of the palace.
On his birthday, in the early morning of the New Year's Day and at midnight after a long journey for on-site guidance he visited the construction site for the accomplishment of the cause of the leader's immortality.
Thanks to his intense loyalty and noble moral obligation for the President, the Kumsusan Memorial Palace has been built as a sacred place of the sun and the supreme temple of Juche.

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Kim Jong Il sees samples of materials to be used for the construction
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Kim Jong Il sees decoration designs for the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

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Kim Jong Il instructs how to build the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

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Kim Jong Il gives field guidance to the building of the exterior of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

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Kim Jong Il gives field guidance to the building of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace on the birthday of Kim Il Sung.

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Kim Jong Il gives field guidance to the construction of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace on the final stage.　

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Kim Jong Il looks round the completed platform of the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

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Kim Jong Il looks round the completed exterior of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

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Kim Jong Il on a streetcar to be used by visitors to the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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Kim Jong Il cuts the red tape to declare the opening of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

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Statue of Kim Il Sung in the central hall of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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A panorama of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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The Kumsusan Memorial Palace seen in the east

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The plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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Grapery at the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

The grapery at the Kumsusan Memorial Palace bears rich fruit every year under the warm loving affection of President Kim Il Sung for the coming generations.
In order to provide the children and students across the country with fresh fruits through all seasons, the President made a grapery at the garden and raised grapes with great care.
His meticulous care for the rising generation is succeeded by leader Kim Jong Il.
In July Juche 87 (1998) when the whole country was in deep grief after the demise of the President, Kim Jong Il saw to it that the grapes raised at the grapery of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace were supplied to the children in Pyongyang.
Indeed, the history of warm love of the President for the children and people flows without cease thanks to Kim Jong Il.

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Corridor for the access to the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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Part of the corridor

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Horizontal elevator at the corridor

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Locker room

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Horizontal elevator at the corridor

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Elevator connected to the corridor of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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A stone gate to the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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The granite wall of the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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Arboretum of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

Leader Kim Jong Il directed great efforts to tidying up the area of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.
Noting that building of an arboretum near the palace would enhance the beauty of its scenery and be good for increasing the country's forest resources, he gave wise instructions to build the arboretum well. On several occasions he gave detailed instructions which would serve as guidelines in building the arboretum, from its scale to the species of trees to be planted there.
Thanks to his idea and guidance, the area of the palace has been converted into a scenic place that is thickly covered with trees and flowers and where all kinds of birds sing.

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Loop line streetcars run on Kumsong Street to the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

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Working people visit the Kumsusan Memorial Palace by a streetcar.

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Streetcar stop

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Koreans residing abroad pay their respects before the statue of Kim Il Sung.

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Working people visit the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace with ardent yearning for Kim Il Sung.

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On June 15, Juche 84 (1995) leader Kim Jong Il visited the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace whose construction was on the final stage. With the plaza built, the Kumsusan Memorial Palace looks weightier and more magnificent, he said, adding that such a grand monumental edifice as the palace cannot be found in all other countries.
The Kumsusan Memorial Palace is always cherished in the inmost thoughts of Kim Jong Il.
The Korean army and people, therefore, at the vast plaza shining with the image of the eternal sun, renew their pledge of faith to hold Kim Jong Il, who has embroidered a great history of leader's immortality, in high esteem generation after generation.

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A ceremony to pay tribute and pledge loyalty to Kim Il Sung takes place at the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace on the occasion of the 55th founding anniversary of the Workers' Party of Korea.

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A rally for great national unity takes place at the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace.

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A national joint meeting of Korean Children's Union is held at the plaza of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace on the Day of the Sun.


To Safeguard the Leader's Ideology and Exploits

"Our Party will inherit and develop faithfully the idea and achievements of the great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung and accomplish his cause down through generations."
——Kim Jong Il

Slogans of faith

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A ceremony of unveiling the Tower of Immortality erected at the zone of the Kumsusan Memorial Palace

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The Tower of Immortality in Sungri Street, Pyongyang

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The Tower of Immortality erected at the entrance to Mt. Myohyang

[China studen]

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Participants in the grand festival for national reunification (above) and foreigners (below) pay their respects to Kim Il Sung.

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Slogan of faith of the Korean army and people displayed on the background of a mass gymnastic performance

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The slogan of faith is seen at the national book exhibition.

Institution of Juche era and Day of the Sun

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Rodong Sinmun carries a joint resolution on the institution of the Juche era and the Day of the Sun.

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Decorations for the Day of the Sun

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A juvenile art exhibition held to commemorate the Day of the Sun

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A soiree of youth and students in Pyongyang held to commemorate the Day of the Sun

Eternal President of the DPRK

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In September Juche 87(1998) the First Session of the Tenth Supreme People's Assembly of the DPRK adopted a new Socialist Constitution, the Kim Il Sung Constitution, stipulating that Kim Il Sung, the founder of the DPRK and founding father of socialist Korea, is the eternal President of the DPRK.

Publication of continuing edition of Kim Il Sung's reminiscences

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Leader Kim Jong Il, fathoming the unanimous wish of the Korean people and world progressives for the continuous publication of President Kim Il Sung's reminiscences, initiated publishing the reminiscences in the form of continuing edition and indicated the principle and ways for it.
Under his meticulous guidance the reminiscences were published in continuing edition on the basis of the summaries of the reminiscences the President wrote in his lifetime, his posthumous manuscripts, his sayings about happenings and facts he had witnessed and experienced during his revolutionary activities and many historical materials preserved in the archive of the Workers' Party of Korea.

Works adding lustre to Kim Il Sung's ideas

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On Nov. 1, Juche 83(1994) leader Kim Jong Il published the famous work "Socialism Is a Science", solemnly declaring his burning faith and will to carry on the socialist cause, the revolutionary cause of Juche pioneered by President Kim Il Sung, without the slightest deviation.
He also authored several other works including "Let Us Accomplish the Great Leader's Cause with Lasting Respect for Him" and "Let Us Carry Out the Great Leader Comrade Kim Il Sung's Instructions for National Reunification" to implant the noble intention of the President deeper in the hearts of the servicepersons and people and led them to carry out the President's behests under the uplifted red flag of Paektu.

[China studen]

顶！

[An archist]

Wow, that's a lot of attention for one guy

[Eleutherios]

Yeah, it seems more like a religion than a political ideology.

[Fidelbrand]

China studen,

your effort is great.

But what do you think of poverty in DPRK? Unlike Cuba, it practices "Juche" where it emphasizes self-reliance (so don't say embargoes is an excuse). But see how it is doing for so many decades...

How Kim Jung Il develops nuclear rather than comprehensive food programs for his people?

what do you think about his extragant living? (Well, it's a fact that he wears Gucci sun-glasses)

[Fidelbrand]

Always think Big Kim 's pictures looks like a toothpaste advertisement:

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Lets go get ... :

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[bloody_capitalist_sham]

if there was ever any question of cults of personality, then there no longer should be.

China_studen, please see through the bullshit.

Being critical of everyone is how we can best understand things.

[dannie]

Originally posted by "saving private ryan"
JACKSON: Hey, Upham, careful you don't step in the bullshit!


sums it up great!

have you noticed practicly nobody in those pictures is smiling, except for big Kim upthere

[Eleutherios]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 02:27 PM
if there was ever any question of cults of personality, then there no longer should be.

China_studen, please see through the bullshit.

Being critical of everyone is how we can best understand things.
Seriously, communism or anything else based on critical thinking has no need for leader worship, temples or "slogans of faith". If anything, we should be doing whatever we can to destroy faith!

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

personality cult? nah, didn't think so...

it'd be nice if they'd have like... given the land to the peasantry or something...

Ah well, I'm sure it's all worth it :rolleyes:

[Enragé]

:blink:

restrict

[ZeroPain]

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restrict

If only it was like the old days when we could...

[Xiao Banfa]

restrict

There are heaps of people on this site that support the DPRK on this website.
Why should we restrict China studen.

He has the right to believe the DPRK is a workers' state.

He still qualifies as a Marxist. If you don't agree with him, debate it with him.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by Tino [email protected] 5 2006, 11:41 AM
There are heaps of people on this site that support the DPRK on this website.
No, not really.



Why should we restrict China studen.
Because Juche has no place here.



He has the right to believe the DPRK is a workers' state.
Nazis have the right to believe they should, but not on this site.



He still qualifies as a Marxist.
Hardly.


If you don't agree with him, debate it with him.
Yes, in OI.

[TC]

I support the state and government of the DPRK and i think its hypocritical to support the Latin American workers states without supporting the asian workers states...

The DPRK is a multi-party democracy with all elected officials held immediately accountable for their actions by way of popular recall referendums, like in Cuba and Venezeuala. It has a socialist economy with no large scale private ownership but rather collective or co-operative property exclusively, like in Cuba. The fact that its the subject to an elaborate large scale propaganda campaign by the American government is probably more evidence in its favor than against it: America supports the real dictatorships with few exceptions (Iran being the only notable one).


The fact that the hold the dead founder of their state in a great degree of reverence is no different than the way Americans feel about George Washington or Lincoln who have similarly prominant places in the American capitol (The Americans even changed the name of their capitol city to "Washington"!).

The British and Australian and Canadian governments refers to all of its departments, their militaries, and the governments themselves, as "Her Majesty's", virtually everything in the British/Canadian/Australian governments is named not after a fallen revolutionary leader but a rich old unelected woman born into the office.


The phrase "eternal president" is not, as China Studen suggested, an office stipulated for Kim il Sung, its just an affectionate phrase in the preamble of the post-Kim il Sung constitution which abolished the office of president, dividing executive authority into three offices rather than one, therefore dimishing the power of any one leader, granting each of them far less authority than western Presidents and Prime ministers enjoy.

[which doctor]

Wow, TC, I knew you were a closet stalinist, but a jucheist as well?


I support the state and government of the DPRK and i think its hypocritical to support the Latin American workers states without supporting the asian workers states...
What Latin American worker's states? Cuba, thats the only one that might be considered a workers state.


The DPRK is a multi-party democracy with all elected officials held immediately accountable for their actions by way of popular recall referendums,
:rolleyes: That's what you can think.


The fact that its the subject to an elaborate large scale propaganda campaign by the American government is probably more evidence in its favor than against it
Are you aware of the larger scale propaganda effort by the North Koreans. The North Korean citizens must now know of life outside of juche! Or they might revolt!


The fact that the hold the dead founder of their state in a great degree of reverence is no different than the way Americans feel about George Washington or Lincoln who have similarly prominant places in the American capitol (The Americans even changed the name of their capitol city to "Washington"!).
So just because americans do it means it&#39;s alright? <_<


Wow TC, you never seize to amaze me.

[TC]

I don&#39;t support Juche, i support a healthy skepticism of american and british reporting on the DPRK...the Iraq war should have proven that what they convince people about a country has very little relation to what actually goes on there.

And it is not a one-party state, there are three competetive parties in the DPRK supreme people&#39;s assembly (the Workers Party being the largest one), and all representatives can be recalled according to the DPRK&#39;s constitution, look it up.

[ZeroPain]

Its like trying to convince a nazi that the holocaust really happened.....

[CCCPneubauten]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 12:53 AM
Its like trying to convince a nazi that the holocaust really happened.....
There are a lot of Nazis who think it did happen, but didn&#39;t go &#39;far enough&#39; ;)

Tragic Clown has presented fact and all people seem to do is go &#39;Lol ur a nasi&#39; or go &#39;that&#39;s not true&#39; or &#39;that&#39;s what you think&#39;

Give me a break, refute using facts not speculation.

Relating people, such at TC and myself, who feel that the media paints out the DPRK to be a lot worse than it is to Nazis isn&#39;t &#39;cool&#39;

[CCCPneubauten]

Originally posted by Jannes+Aug 4 2006, 03:05 PM--> (Jannes @ Aug 4 2006, 03:05 PM)
"saving private ryan"
JACKSON: Hey, Upham, careful you don&#39;t step in the bullshit&#33;


sums it up great&#33;

have you noticed practicly nobody in those pictures is smiling, except for big Kim upthere [/b]
One) Check again, I saw quite a few, and why do people HAVE to smile, what does that prove?

Two) People smiled in Nazi Germany, did that make National Socialism fun for everyone?

[Enragé]

if north korea is such a fucking great country why dont they open it up to everyone? Why do people want to get the fuck out of it?
We have the internet now, nothing can be silenced (one version of the truth can be made prevalent but anyone can, with effort, find the real truth).

But noooo
they close their borders for everyone.
And the few people who do get in dont normally return with stories of how great and democratic the DPRK is.

Also, this worship of their leader
come on
its like stalin times a thousand.

There are obvious signs that its a fucked country, even without buying everything the cappie media tells you.
Common sense, ya know.

[ZeroPain]

http://www.korea-dpr.com/
Notice the first thing that appears when you enter the site..


Its to bad that none of our "comrades" in N. Korea can tell us how great it is.... I wonder why?

[Xiao Banfa]

QUOTE (Tino Rangatiratanga @ Aug 5 2006, 11:41 AM)
There are heaps of people on this site that support the DPRK on this website.


No, not really.



QUOTE
Why should we restrict China studen.


Because Juche has no place here.



QUOTE
He has the right to believe the DPRK is a workers&#39; state.


Nazis have the right to believe they should, but not on this site.



QUOTE
He still qualifies as a Marxist.


Hardly.


QUOTE
If you don&#39;t agree with him, debate it with him.


Yes, in OI.


You should read the revleft guidelines because CS hasn&#39;t violated a single one.

[Enragé]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 05:35 AM
http://www.korea-dpr.com/
Notice the first think that appears when you enter the site..



ahahahaah

"The leaders are the sun of the nation and mankind"

hahahaha

honestly
anyone who supports this..
well...

lets just say my opinion for the average cappie is 10 times as high.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by TC+--> (TC)I don&#39;t support Juche, i support a healthy skepticism of american and british reporting on the DPRK...[/b]

Why don&#39;t you support Juche?

Juche is the ruling ideology of North Korea, how can you not support the ideology that underlies the organisation, the functioning of the North Korean state and yet claim to support the structure/organisation of the same state/society?


Originally posted by TC+--> (TC)The DPRK is a multi-party democracy with all elected officials held immediately accountable for their actions by way of popular recall referendums, like in Cuba and Venezeuala. [/b]

Wait, so NK had a fully contested, multi-party election following the death of Kim Il Sung?

What % of the votes did Kim Jong Il get?

100%?

What are the parties in this &#39;multi-party democracy&#39;?

Are they functionally or ideologically different to the ruling party?

Why the fuck does NK have a &#39;multi-party democracy&#39;, as opposed to a system of worker&#39;s control?



Originally posted by TC
The fact that the hold the dead founder of their state in a great degree of reverence is no different than the way Americans feel about George Washington or Lincoln who have similarly prominant places in the American capitol (The Americans even changed the name of their capitol city to "Washington"&#33;).

The British and Australian and Canadian governments refers to all of its departments, their militaries, and the governments themselves, as "Her Majesty&#39;s", virtually everything in the British/Canadian/Australian governments is named not after a fallen revolutionary leader but a rich old unelected woman born into the office.

LOL, i can&#39;t believe you&#39;re even making this comparison.

Okay.

So are you suggesting that any &#39;western&#39; country has anything approaching the cult of personality in NK that has been fostered around Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il?

Are their large banners and posters of George Bush&#39; face plastered all over the US? Do people commonly refer to him as the great leader? The supreme leader etc?

Do you even acknowledge that there is cult of personality surrounding Kim Il Sung and his son in NK?

Or is this an &#39;exaggerated media lie&#39; too?



Originally posted by TC
its just an affectionate phrase in the preamble of the post-Kim il Sung constitution

What the hell is an &#39;affectionate phrase in the preamble&#39;? There&#39;s jokes and light-hearted games in the North Korean constitution?


[email protected]

granting each of them far less authority than western Presidents and Prime ministers enjoy.

You seem to be trying really hard to drive this comparison with &#39;western&#39; govts. etc. but frankly, why the fuck should we care? No one here supports &#39;western&#39; states, that North Korea (in your opinion) is &#39;better&#39; than the US or the US republican system, means jack-all from a communist perspective. It should be assumed that a so-called &#39;communist&#39; society is better than liberal democracy.

The real question is, why the fuck does North Korea have a &#39;president&#39; and a political system that can even be compared to liberal democracy in a meaningful way?

Why the fuck do they have a such a centralised state?

Why is the constitution enshrining power and authority to the great leader of North Korea as opposed to the workers? Isn&#39;t North Korea meant to be a dictatorship of the proletariat?

Oh, and do you have a link to the NK constitution handy please? I&#39;d like to read how much power they actually enshrine to the people.




CCCP
Tragic Clown has presented fact and all people seem to do is go &#39;Lol ur a nasi&#39; or go &#39;that&#39;s not true&#39; or &#39;that&#39;s what you think&#39;

Oooh, It&#39;s the Tragic Harem&#33; :lol:

[Eleutherios]

You can find an English translation of the North Korean constitution here:
http://www1.korea-np.co.jp/pk/061st_issue/98091708.htm

[ZeroPain]

You can find an English translation of the North Korean constitution here:
http://www1.korea-np.co.jp/pk/061st_issue/98091708.htm

:lol: The preface is just to good....

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by sennomulo+Aug 6 2006, 11:23 PM--> (sennomulo @ Aug 6 2006, 11:23 PM) You can find an English translation of the North Korean constitution here:
http://www1.korea-np.co.jp/pk/061st_issue/98091708.htm [/b]
Yup, coz ALL western governments have personality cults like this hey TC?


　The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is a socialist fatherland of Juche which embodies the idea of and guidance by the great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung.

The great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung is the founder of the DPRK and the socialist Korea. [Not the Korean people, DPRK was founded by this great man&#33;]

Comrade Kim Il Sung founded the immortal Juche idea, organized and guided an anti-Japanese revolutionary struggle under its banner, created revolutionary tradition, attained the historical cause of the national liberation, and founded the DPRK, built up a solid basis of construction of a sovereign and independent state in the fields of politics, economy, culture and military, and founded the DPRK.

Comrade Kim Il Sung put forward an independent revolutionary line, wisely guided the social revolution and construction at various levels, strengthened and developed the Republic into a people-centered socialist country and a socialist state of independence, self-sustenance, and self-defense.

Comrade Kim Il Sung clarified the fundamental principle of State building and activities, established the most superior state social system and political method, and social management system and method, and provided a firm basis for the prosperous and powerful socialist fatherland and the continuation of the task of completing the Juche revolutionary cause.

Comrade Kim Il Sung regarded “believing in the people as in heaven” as his motto, was always with the people, devoted his whole life to them, took care of and guided them with a noble politics of benevolence, and turned the whole society into one big and united family.

The great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung is the sun of the nation and the lodestar of the reunification of the fatherland. Comrade Kim Il Sung set the reunification of the country as the nation’s supreme task, and devoted all his work and endeavors entirely to its realization.

Comrade Kim Il Sung, while turning the Republic into a mighty fortress for national reunification, indicated fundamental principles and methods for national reunification, developed the national reunification movement into a pan-national movement, and opened up a way for that cause, to be attained by the united strength of the entire nation.

The great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung made clear the fundamental idea of the Republic’s external policy, expanded and developed diplomatic relations on this basis, and heightened the international prestige of the Republic. Comrade Kim Il Sung as a veteran world political leader, hew out a new era of independence, vigorously worked for the reinforcement and development of the socialist movement and the nonaligned movement, and for world peace and friendship between peoples, and made an immortal contribution to the mankind’s independent cause.

Comrade Kim Il Sung was a genius ideological theoretician and a genius art leader, an ever-victorious, iron-willed brilliant commander, a great revolutionary and politician, and a great human being. Comrade Kim Il Sung’s great idea and achievements in leadership are the eternal treasures of the nation and a fundamental guarantee for the prosperity and efflorescence of the DPRK.

The DPRK and the entire Korean people will uphold the great leader Comrade Kim Il Sung as the eternal President of the Republic, defend and carry forward his ideas and exploits and complete the Juche revolution under the leadership of the Workers’ Party of Korea.




constitution

The DPRK Socialist Constitution is a Kim Il Sung constitution which legally embodies Comrade Kim Il Sung’s Juche state construction ideology and achievements.

Yet, somehow TC, you don&#39;t support Juche, and just the state thats built on Juche?

[China studen]

Originally posted by An [email protected] 4 2006, 09:50 AM
Wow, that&#39;s a lot of attention for one guy
President Kim Il Sung is the great leader which the Korean people
supports wholeheartedly, commemorates him is very normal.

[China studen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 02:07 PM
Yeah, it seems more like a religion than a political ideology.
This and religious not similarity. The worship and the religion
flatter to the leader honestly has the basic difference.

[China studen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 02:18 PM
China studen,

your effort is great.

But what do you think of poverty in DPRK? Unlike Cuba, it practices "Juche" where it emphasizes self-reliance (so don&#39;t say embargoes is an excuse). But see how it is doing for so many decades...

How Kim Jung Il develops nuclear rather than comprehensive food programs for his people?

what do you think about his extragant living? (Well, it&#39;s a fact that he wears Gucci sun-glasses)
朝鲜的经济困难时期已经基本结束，而导致朝鲜在90年代遭受经济困难的主要原因就是美帝国主义的封锁（这不 是借口，是一个重要的事实），朝鲜能坚持着社会主义制度，并走过了这段坎坷的道路，是不容易的 。

朝鲜开发核武是为了国家的自我保卫，如何没有足够的军事力量，在战争时，经济如何好的地方也会 化为灰烬。

你说金正日将军戴的是名牌的眼镜，那证据呢？你的肉眼不能说服我。

Korea&#39;s economic difficulties have been basically completed, resulting in Korea in the 1990s is the main cause of economic difficulties suffered by the U.S. imperialist blockade (it is not an excuse, is an important fact), Korea will adhere to the socialist system, and travelled that road bumps, it is not easy.

North Korea&#39;s development of nuclear weapons is in the interest of national self-defence, how to insufficient military strength in the war, how good local economy will ashes.

You said Kim Jong Il, wearing glasses is the name, then the evidence? Your naked eye convince me.

[An archist]

But why build huge palaces for a few people when there are still people who live in slums?
What&#39;s the point of spending loads of money on a dead guy, when you can use that money to prevent people from dying?

[Enragé]

Socialism is everyone owning everything.

Do they?
No

therefore, north korea is not socialist

case closed
now we can get on with our lives :)

[CCCPneubauten]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 05:30 PM
Socialism is everyone owning everything.

:huh: No....no it really isn&#39;t....

[Enragé]

Originally posted by CCCPneubauten+Aug 7 2006, 06:19 PM--> (CCCPneubauten @ Aug 7 2006, 06:19 PM)
[email protected] 7 2006, 05:30 PM
Socialism is everyone owning everything.

:huh: No....no it really isn&#39;t.... [/b]
the working class controlling the means of production

whatever

its what i meant

yes its a transition period, but the working class still control the means of production, except through the state.

same difference

[Zero]

Oh wow, oh jeez. I swear I&#39;m going to have a little smily Communist revolutionary engraved in the back of my eyeballs now.

[Janus]

You guys want to restrict someone just for supporting Kim Il Sung? Especially an international member?


Korea&#39;s economic difficulties have been basically completed

I wouldn&#39;t say so. They are in need of foreign food aid and much of their people particularly in the rural areas live in huts.

Some of these problems are geographical in nature but some of them are also
the result of politics.

I&#39;ll translate this later.

[ZeroPain]

You guys want to restrict someone just for supporting Kim Il Sung? Especially an international member?


Why not?

Do you want another authoritarian state?

[Eleutherios]

Originally posted by China studen+Aug 7 2006, 12:52 PM--> (China studen @ Aug 7 2006, 12:52 PM)
[email protected] 4 2006, 02:07 PM
Yeah, it seems more like a religion than a political ideology.
This and religious not similarity. The worship and the religion
flatter to the leader honestly has the basic difference. [/b]
It&#39;s not obvious to me that there are any basic differences between Juche and a religion. Why does Juche need temples and slogans of faith if it is not a religious dogma? What are the significant differences between worshiping Jesus or Muhammad, and Kim Jong Il or Kim Il Sung?

[Xiao Banfa]

But why build huge palaces for a few people when there are still people who live in slums?

While I&#39;m not a partisan of the DPRK, this is ridiculous. DPRK is repressive and authoritarian but there are no slums. :lol:

[An archist]

Originally posted by Tino [email protected] 8 2006, 07:11 AM

But why build huge palaces for a few people when there are still people who live in slums?

While I&#39;m not a partisan of the DPRK, this is ridiculous. DPRK is repressive and authoritarian but there are no slums. :lol:
I&#39;ll try to find the site, I saw pictures of a guy who went to North Korea.

EDIT: here it is, it&#39;s from some kind of military site, but look at the pictures and see the contrast between these and the ones posted by China studen

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82755

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 05:35 AM
http://www.korea-dpr.com/
Notice the first thing that appears when you enter the site..
That&#39;s not a Korean site. It&#39;s the website of the "Korean Friendship Association". IIRC, the site&#39;s servers are in Texas and it&#39;s run by a Spaniard. I do believe that this one is more official:

http://www.kcckp.net/en/


Its to bad that none of our "comrades" in N. Korea can tell us how great it is.... I wonder why?
LOL, let&#39;s apply the same logic to Cuba, why don&#39;t we? Maybe we could also insinuate that Cuba is an evil stalinist hellhole because they don&#39;t massively surf the internet. Anyway, why do you care? One of the most important issues in anti-DPRK propaganda is that the country is "poor" or even "starving"(umm, that was ten years ago). And yet, at the same time you expect the government to make sure that the people can chat on internet forums all day??? :lol:

[ZeroPain]

That&#39;s not a Korean site. It&#39;s the website of the "Korean Friendship Association". IIRC, the site&#39;s servers are in Texas and it&#39;s run by a Spaniard. I do believe that this one is more official:

http://www.kcckp.net/en/

:lol:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KIM&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
http://www.kcckp.net/en/event/2005-02-16/



LOL, let&#39;s apply the same logic to Cuba, why don&#39;t we? Maybe we could also insinuate that Cuba is an evil stalinist hellhole because they don&#39;t massively surf the internet. Anyway, why do you care? One of the most important issues in anti-DPRK propaganda is that the country is "poor" or even "starving"(umm, that was ten years ago). And yet, at the same time you expect the government to make sure that the people can chat on internet forums all day??? laugh.gif

1. Cuba, while a dictatorship is not a shithole in the Korean sense. Why do you ask? Because we can go to Cuba and walk around without government oversight.

2. I expect the government to feed and care for its people rather then building useless monuments and hotels to make Kim look good&#33;

http://www.travel-images.com/korean.html

[An archist]

yeah, but if they didn&#39;t make those hotels, people might think they are poor, so instead of making sure North Korean people can survive, they build massive monuments, thus making the population even poorer.
Reminds of the middle ages.

[Wanted Man]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 11:47 PM
1. Cuba, while a dictatorship is not a shithole in the Korean sense. Why do you ask? Because we can go to Cuba and walk around without government oversight.
To be honest, given the DPRK&#39;s foreign relations, I would say that they are very generous to allow tourists in at all. Anyway, from what I&#39;ve read, the guides are not at all like the stereotypical "Orwellian minders" or "government agents". In fact they&#39;re often very pleasant people. At least, that&#39;s what I&#39;ve gathered from travel reports and other sites that deal with travel to the DPRK. I hope to go there myself when I have some money. Anyway, building up some trust can go a very long way in easing up the restrictions.


2. I expect the government to feed and care for its people rather then building useless monuments and hotels to make Kim look good&#33;
How does the government not care for its people? I do not believe that many "useless monuments and hotels" were built when a famine was actually going on. In fact, recently both the army and city people have been sent to help out in the harvest. I really do not see what else I can do. Well, I know that the DPRK&#39;s detractors expect achievements from the government that are humanly impossible, but really: Kim can&#39;t turn hotels into rice&#33; :lol:

EDIT: also, I just read that the Mass Games have been called off due to the recent floods. Surely, if the government felt it that important to have such spectacles for tourists and the "elite" in the face of massive starvation, they would have just let it go on?

[ZeroPain]

To be honest, given the DPRK&#39;s foreign relations, I would say that they are very generous to allow tourists in at all. Anyway, from what I&#39;ve read, the guides are not at all like the stereotypical "Orwellian minders" or "government agents". In fact they&#39;re often very pleasant people. At least, that&#39;s what I&#39;ve gathered from travel reports and other sites that deal with travel to the DPRK. I hope to go there myself when I have some money. Anyway, building up some trust can go a very long way in easing up the restrictions.

And if the guides show you more then whats approved they will be in some thick shit.


How does the government not care for its people? I do not believe that many "useless monuments and hotels" were built when a famine was actually going on. In fact, recently both the army and city people have been sent to help out in the harvest. I really do not see what else I can do. Well, I know that the DPRK&#39;s detractors expect achievements from the government that are humanly impossible, but really: Kim can&#39;t turn hotels into rice&#33; laugh.gif



During the 1960s and 1970s the country&#39;s economy grew at a significant rate and until 1975 was considered to be stronger than that in the south. However, with Kim Jong-il&#39;s rule in the mid-to-late 1990s, the country&#39;s economy declined significantly, and food shortages developed in many areas.

[Pink Moon]

These pictures are extremely beautiful. Who took them?