I Want This Man Dead!

[General Patton]

Have you seen this man?

FBI Seeking Information - War on Terrorism List (http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/gadahn.htm)

Adam Gadahn is the Al-Qaeda piece of sh*t who was named by Director of the FBI, John Mueller, as a planner of terrorist attacks that were to occur in the summer and fall of 2004. He was also thought to be the masked man who used the name “Azzam the American” in Al-Qaeda videos released to the world by way of Al-Jazeera, our enemy’s propaganda machine. In his first set of videos he was critical of U.S. foreign policy and military campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, and threatened of attacks in western cities. He also appeared in a video put out on the 5th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Recently, he appeared unmasked in a new video, again threatening to kill thousands of Americans. Gadahn is thought to be tech savy and responsible for much of Al-Qaeda’s recruiting videos.

Excerpt from the latest video:

I'd love to shoot this guy myself (http://hotair.com/archives/top-picks/2006/07/07/video-degenerate-traitor-adam-gadahn/)

Adam Gadahn should be found and killed. The operation should be highly publicized, after the fact, and used in our military's recruiting videos. Gadahn should pay the ultimate price for his treason. Mosques within the United States, and elsewhere, should be infiltrated, while select practitioners and imams should be targeted for elimination. The United States should use the desire of Al-Qaeda and other Islamists to recruit white-bread, American-looking terrorist operatives against them. We should use this need of theirs as a way of gaining access and understanding their operational structure and security protocols. Understanding how they are operating, and what they are saying is key to disrupting their network. People like Gadahn do not deserve to live.

[theraven]

wb patton. and yes this traitor should be killed...

[General Patton]

What does wb stand for? By the way, I like your personal quote. It sounds as if Che was a real coward.

[which doctor]

Originally posted by General [email protected] 19 2006, 10:41 PM
By the way, I like your personal quote. It sounds as if Che was a real coward.
That's not even a real quote. He never said that.

[General Patton]

It's too bad we didn't have plastination techniques back then. I bet Che's hands would be worth a lot of money today.

[theraven]

Originally posted by Fist of Blood+Jul 20 2006, 03:45 AM--> (Fist of Blood @ Jul 20 2006, 03:45 AM)
General [email protected] 19 2006, 10:41 PM
By the way, I like your personal quote. It sounds as if Che was a real coward.
That's not even a real quote. He never said that. [/b]
yes he did, when he was captured by the bolviaon soliders.

and wb means welcome back

[General Patton]

I think that his actual last words were, "I know you have come to kill me. Do it. I am only a man." This shows just how much Che despised humanity. Have you ever seen Planet of the Apes (the original)? I think Che sort of looked like one of those theatrical monkeys.

[theraven]

Originally posted by General [email protected] 20 2006, 04:00 AM
I think that his actual last words were, "I know you have come to kill me. Do it. I am only a man." This shows just how much Che despised humanity. Have you ever seen Planet of the Apes (the original)? I think Che sort of looked like one of those theatrical monkeys.
yea those were his last words supposedly.

[General Patton]

Supposedly.

[Jazzratt]

As much as loathe al-qaeda and their philosophy and so on if I went around killing everyone who wanted to kill people in the name of their invisible sky wizard there would be a lot of blood on my hands. As for Al-Jazeera 'the propaganda machine of our enemey' al-jazeera is a fuck of a lot more progressive and balanced than FOX, not that you'd ever watch it (I only did because I knew somone who dcould translate for me).

As for the Che thing: Yes his last words were, given what people know about him, much more likley to be "I know you have come to kill me. Shoot coaward, you are only killing a man." which shows his love for the movement - and therfore humanity.

[theraven]

As much as loathe al-qaeda and their philosophy and so on if I went around killing everyone who wanted to kill people in the name of their invisible sky wizard there would be a lot of blood on my hands. As for Al-Jazeera 'the propaganda machine of our enemey' al-jazeera is a fuck of a lot more progressive and balanced than FOX, not that you'd ever watch it (I only did because I knew somone who dcould translate for me).


how is al jazzeera (aka jihad tv) more progressive then a mainstream american news channel?



As for the Che thing: Yes his last words were, given what people know about him, much more likley to be "I know you have come to kill me. Shoot coaward, you are only killing a man." which shows his love for the movement - and therfore humanity.

considiernrg how horrible the resuls from his attempted/succesful revolutison were how can you say loving your movent is loving humanity

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 12:02 PM

As much as loathe al-qaeda and their philosophy and so on if I went around killing everyone who wanted to kill people in the name of their invisible sky wizard there would be a lot of blood on my hands. As for Al-Jazeera 'the propaganda machine of our enemey' al-jazeera is a fuck of a lot more progressive and balanced than FOX, not that you'd ever watch it (I only did because I knew somone who dcould translate for me).


how is al jazzeera (aka jihad tv) more progressive then a mainstream american news channel?

Jihad TV :lol: At least they give voice to their opponents and occasonally critisise arabic governments. The running dog media you have in America and we have in Britian (Sky news, ITN and so on) can't really claim that (except perhaps the BBC). I'm not saying Al-Jazeera ios the greatest TV channel in the world, because it isn't, I'm saying it's better than fox. No TV outlets are that progressive but Al-Jazeera and the BBC are marginally less regressive.





As for the Che thing: Yes his last words were, given what people know about him, much more likley to be "I know you have come to kill me. Shoot coaward, you are only killing a man." which shows his love for the movement - and therfore humanity.

considiernrg how horrible the resuls from his attempted/succesful revolutison were how can you say loving your movent is loving humanity. THe horrible results? The ones from the trade embargo you mean? Or are you going to link me to another site of impearlist dogmatic hyberbole again. I can say that he loved humanity because his movement was about freeing humanity from capitalism.

[ebeneezer]

Originally posted by Jazzratt+Jul 20 2006, 12:08 PM--> (Jazzratt @ Jul 20 2006, 12:08 PM)
[email protected] 20 2006, 12:02 PM

As much as loathe al-qaeda and their philosophy and so on if I went around killing everyone who wanted to kill people in the name of their invisible sky wizard there would be a lot of blood on my hands. As for Al-Jazeera 'the propaganda machine of our enemey' al-jazeera is a fuck of a lot more progressive and balanced than FOX, not that you'd ever watch it (I only did because I knew somone who dcould translate for me).


how is al jazzeera (aka jihad tv) more progressive then a mainstream american news channel?

Jihad TV :lol: At least they give voice to their opponents and occasonally critisise arabic governments. The running dog media you have in America and we have in Britian (Sky news, ITN and so on) can't really claim that (except perhaps the BBC). I'm not saying Al-Jazeera ios the greatest TV channel in the world, because it isn't, I'm saying it's better than fox. No TV outlets are that progressive but Al-Jazeera and the BBC are marginally less regressive.





As for the Che thing: Yes his last words were, given what people know about him, much more likley to be "I know you have come to kill me. Shoot coaward, you are only killing a man." which shows his love for the movement - and therfore humanity.

considiernrg how horrible the resuls from his attempted/succesful revolutison were how can you say loving your movent is loving humanity. THe horrible results? The ones from the trade embargo you mean? Or are you going to link me to another site of impearlist dogmatic hyberbole again. I can say that he loved humanity because his movement was about freeing humanity from capitalism. [/b]
Roman saying: "She who hates man hates humanity..."

If Che loved humanity so much what made him start killing people? Love?

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by ebeneezer+Jul 20 2006, 02:04 PM--> (ebeneezer @ Jul 20 2006, 02:04 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 12:08 PM

[email protected] 20 2006, 12:02 PM

As much as loathe al-qaeda and their philosophy and so on if I went around killing everyone who wanted to kill people in the name of their invisible sky wizard there would be a lot of blood on my hands. As for Al-Jazeera 'the propaganda machine of our enemey' al-jazeera is a fuck of a lot more progressive and balanced than FOX, not that you'd ever watch it (I only did because I knew somone who dcould translate for me).


how is al jazzeera (aka jihad tv) more progressive then a mainstream american news channel?

Jihad TV :lol: At least they give voice to their opponents and occasonally critisise arabic governments. The running dog media you have in America and we have in Britian (Sky news, ITN and so on) can't really claim that (except perhaps the BBC). I'm not saying Al-Jazeera ios the greatest TV channel in the world, because it isn't, I'm saying it's better than fox. No TV outlets are that progressive but Al-Jazeera and the BBC are marginally less regressive.





As for the Che thing: Yes his last words were, given what people know about him, much more likley to be "I know you have come to kill me. Shoot coaward, you are only killing a man." which shows his love for the movement - and therfore humanity.

considiernrg how horrible the resuls from his attempted/succesful revolutison were how can you say loving your movent is loving humanity. THe horrible results? The ones from the trade embargo you mean? Or are you going to link me to another site of impearlist dogmatic hyberbole again. I can say that he loved humanity because his movement was about freeing humanity from capitalism.
Roman saying: "She who hates man hates humanity..."

If Che loved humanity so much what made him start killing people? Love? [/b]
BEcause you kill people ina war, a revolution. You're enemies are capitalists not humans.

[theraven]

BEcause you kill people ina war, a revolution. You're enemies are capitalists not humans.

wow-you think capitlists aren't human?



Jihad TV laugh.gif At least they give voice to their opponents and occasonally critisise arabic governments. The running dog media you have in America and we have in Britian (Sky news, ITN and so on) can't really claim that (except perhaps the BBC). I'm not saying Al-Jazeera ios the greatest TV channel in the world, because it isn't, I'm saying it's better than fox. No TV outlets are that progressive but Al-Jazeera and the BBC are marginally less regressive.


i can't really speak to british tv, but in america they have plenty of debates on tv, and they critcize the government all the time. even your much hated fox has liberals on and criticized bush. this isn't pravada..


THe horrible results? The ones from the trade embargo you mean? Or are you going to link me to another site of impearlist dogmatic hyberbole again. I can say that he loved humanity because his movement was about freeing humanity from capitalism.

No his movmenet was about self agrandizment and personal glory, not to mention a messiah complex. anyone who can justify large scale exeuctions by saying "they are just capitlists" has clear pyschologicla problems.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 02:34 PM


BEcause you kill people ina war, a revolution. You're enemies are capitalists not humans.

wow-you think capitlists aren't human?

Fact is, everyone in the rvolution had the option to not be a capitalist, they were the ones who chose to be the enemy, they didn't have to take a reactionary stance. The enemey cannot be thought of as human because when you win the revolution having killed so many people you think of as human what is to stop you killing your own comrades?





Jihad TV laugh.gif At least they give voice to their opponents and occasonally critisise arabic governments. The running dog media you have in America and we have in Britian (Sky news, ITN and so on) can't really claim that (except perhaps the BBC). I'm not saying Al-Jazeera ios the greatest TV channel in the world, because it isn't, I'm saying it's better than fox. No TV outlets are that progressive but Al-Jazeera and the BBC are marginally less regressive.


i can't really speak to british tv, but in america they have plenty of debates on tv, and they critcize the government all the time. even your much hated fox has liberals on and criticized bush. this isn't pravada.. That's as may be but Al-Jazeera doesn't have an established political bias as much as fox does (and is famous for.).



THe horrible results? The ones from the trade embargo you mean? Or are you going to link me to another site of impearlist dogmatic hyberbole again. I can say that he loved humanity because his movement was about freeing humanity from capitalism.

No his movmenet was about self agrandizment and personal glory, not to mention a messiah complex. anyone who can justify large scale exeuctions by saying "they are just capitlists" has clear pyschologicla problems. One does not take up Marxism for 'personal glory' it is not a political philosophy of personal glory rather of societal progression. See the beggining of this post for my justification.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by General [email protected] 20 2006, 03:41 AM
What does wb stand for? By the way, I like your personal quote. It sounds as if Che was a real coward.
I don't think he was a coward, just an authorotarian Stalinist fuckface

[ebeneezer]

BEcause you kill people ina war, a revolution. You're enemies are capitalists not humans.
And killing relies upon hate, not love, right? So how does that constitute loving humanity?


Fact is, everyone in the rvolution had the option to not be a capitalist, they were the ones who chose to be the enemy, they didn't have to take a reactionary stance. The enemey cannot be thought of as human because when you win the revolution having killed so many people you think of as human what is to stop you killing your own comrades?
Youll find the Nazis used the same justification...What does that make you?

[theraven]

Fact is, everyone in the rvolution had the option to not be a capitalist, they were the ones who chose to be the enemy, they didn't have to take a reactionary stance. The enemey cannot be thought of as human because when you win the revolution having killed so many people you think of as human what is to stop you killing your own comrades?
worst.justification.ever.

though on the side most people who kill don't think of their vicitims as human, its what lets htem sleep at night. the difference is most devolp that AFTER they kill, and rarely say it. jazz here seems to believe it despite
a) hopefuly having never killed before
b) probably nto goign to any time soon.


That's as may be but Al-Jazeera doesn't have an established political bias as much as fox does (and is famous for.).

wow-is your IQ even double digits?


One does not take up Marxism for 'personal glory' it is not a political philosophy of personal glory rather of societal progression. See the beggining of this post for my justification.

you can gain perosnal glory in any cuase.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 02:49 PM
And killing relies upon hate, not love, right? So how does that constitute loving humanity?

Hating humans isn't the same as hating humanity, dipshit.


Youll find the Nazis used the same justification...What does that make you?

Don't be such an idiot. Nazis based their hatred on race, an artificial construct, that was clearly defined and intrinsic. One could not change their race, and so were condemned to their fate, from before they were born. Nothing they could do would save them. Our goal are also 100% adverse to the goals of nazism, a totallitarian state based on national and racial pride, against the goal of a free and equal democratic society? We have no desire for killing or even conflict, it is unfortunately, inevitable. Unless the rich are willing to surrender their hoarded exploits and abdicate their positions, granting humanity true freedom?

Unlike you sir, we're not naive little happy clappy shits who live in a tollerant-wonder-bubble. We understand that as soon as we make our demands for freedom and equality, or attempt to live in such a way, we will be violently attacked, as we have been again and again. The ruling class wont just crumble under the weight of a petition or a few worker-friendly reforms, nor will it surrender. We have to fight back.

And as we are throwing the nazi accusations around; you are, I assume, aware of the role capitalism played in making the holocaust possible?

I didn't think you would be...
IBM (http://http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/)
IG farben (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben)

[Si Pinto]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 02:04 PM
Roman saying: "She who hates man hates humanity..."

If Che loved humanity so much what made him start killing people? Love?
Che was helping the oppressed people overthrow their capitalist oppressors, if they didn't want to get killed they should have joined in the revolution (many did).

Helping downtrodden people who really need your help is a beautiful thing.

and as for....


Roman saying: "She who hates man hates humanity..."

Modern saying: "He who tries to use quotes from something that died out 1600 years ago needs a new book".

[Goatse]

Originally posted by General [email protected] 20 2006, 03:41 AM
What does wb stand for? By the way, I like your personal quote. It sounds as if Che was a real coward.


"A colored soldier cannot think fast enough to fight in armor."

- General George Patton

:)

[theraven]

Don't be such an idiot. Nazis based their hatred on race, an artificial construct, that was clearly defined and intrinsic. One could not change their race, and so were condemned to their fate, from before they were born. Nothing they could do would save them. Our goal are also 100% adverse to the goals of nazism, a totallitarian state based on national and racial pride, against the goal of a free and equal democratic society? We have no desire for killing or even conflict, it is unfortunately, inevitable. Unless the rich are willing to surrender their hoarded exploits and abdicate their positions, granting humanity true freedom?

Unlike you sir, we're not naive little happy clappy shits who live in a tollerant-wonder-bubble. We understand that as soon as we make our demands for freedom and equality, or attempt to live in such a way, we will be violently attacked, as we have been again and again. The ruling class wont just crumble under the weight of a petition or a few worker-friendly reforms, nor will it surrender. We have to fight back.

so you want to end up like most revoluaitosn eh?

[theraven]

Originally posted by ScottishPinko+Jul 20 2006, 03:07 PM--> (ScottishPinko @ Jul 20 2006, 03:07 PM)
General [email protected] 20 2006, 03:41 AM
What does wb stand for? By the way, I like your personal quote. It sounds as if Che was a real coward.


"A colored soldier cannot think fast enough to fight in armor."

- General George Patton

:) [/b]
source?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by Si [email protected] 20 2006, 03:03 PM
Che was helping the oppressed people overthrow their capitalist oppressors, if they didn't want to get killed they should have joined in the revolution (many did).

No, Ernesto was dictating to the opressed how they should be fighting because in his eyes they were un (class) concious simpletons, who needed his divine lenninist powers to lead them to state-capitalism. Other than a popular nationalist backing in Cuba, very few joined in che's ego trips see: bolivian diary

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:08 PM
so you want to end up like most revoluaitosn eh?
mybre if you try a nad amake some afucking sencse...

[ebeneezer]

Additives Free:

Hating humans isn't the same as hating humanity, dipshit.
Well, Che showed his love humanity in his own special way then? Is this what youre saying?


We have no desire for killing or even conflict, it is unfortunately, inevitable. Unless the rich are willing to surrender their hoarded exploits and abdicate their positions, granting humanity true freedom?
I am glad to hear it. But how does that sepparate you from an armed robber?


Unlike you sir, we're not naive little happy clappy shits who live in a tollerant-wonder-bubble. We understand that as soon as we make our demands for freedom and equality, or attempt to live in such a way, we will be violently attacked, as we have been again and again. The ruling class wont just crumble under the weight of a petition or a few worker-friendly reforms, nor will it surrender. We have to fight back.
You cannot break the iron grip of the ruling class. You can work hard to join it, stay poor, or you can suffer the just punishment for your treasonous actions.

Si Pinto:


Che was helping the oppressed people overthrow their capitalist oppressors, if they didn't want to get killed they should have joined in the revolution (many did).
This is ridiculous. They people did not want to die who were killed? Why should they alter their lifestyle to fit that of the malcontents?


Helping downtrodden people who really need your help is a beautiful thing
Killing capitlalists isnt going to help downtrodden people.

[theraven]

Originally posted by Additives Free+Jul 20 2006, 03:11 PM--> (Additives Free @ Jul 20 2006, 03:11 PM)
[email protected] 20 2006, 03:08 PM
so you want to end up like most revoluaitosn eh?
mybre if you try a nad amake some afucking sencse... [/b]
ok..how do most revolutoins end?

lets look shall we

theres the french revolution

the russian revolutin

..and on.

what do they all have in common? a massacere of "the enemy" followed by bloody civil war followed by a dictator.

[Si Pinto]

Originally posted by Additives [email protected] 20 2006, 03:10 PM
No, Ernesto was dictating to the opressed how they should be fighting because in his eyes they were un (class) concious simpletons, who needed his divine lenninist powers to lead them to state-capitalism. Other than a popular nationalist backing in Cuba, very few joined in che's ego trips see: bolivian diary
I was refering to Cuba anyway which is the only 'ego trip' (as you call it) which could be described as a revolution.

Many Batista soldiers changed sides during the revolution.

[Si Pinto]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:15 PM
This is ridiculous. They people did not want to die who were killed? Why should they alter their lifestyle to fit that of the malcontents?
They were soldiers paid to fight (and die) for the capitalist oppressors.

Another saying: "A soldier cannot choose were he wants to fight".

and the fact is that many of them DID change sides.

Which shows you how much you know about the fucking thing anyway

[ebeneezer]

Originally posted by Si Pinto+Jul 20 2006, 03:26 PM--> (Si Pinto @ Jul 20 2006, 03:26 PM)
[email protected] 20 2006, 03:15 PM
This is ridiculous. They people did not want to die who were killed? Why should they alter their lifestyle to fit that of the malcontents?
They were soldiers paid to fight (and die) for the capitalist oppressors.

Another saying: "A soldier cannot choose were he wants to fight".

and the fact is that many of them DID change sides.

Which shows you how much you know about the fucking thing anyway [/b]
Yes, because the Patriots died to preserve a free Cuba from the communist gangbangers who raped women above their class and sought to impose a dictatorship of the masses in opposition to the natural law of their class station.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:15 PM
Well, Che showed his love humanity in his own special way then? Is this what youre saying?

I don't care how Ernesto showed his love. That man has nothing to do with my point.


I am glad to hear it. But how does that sepparate you from an armed robber?

Intent. The robber wants profit, and he will kill to get it. Much like a capitalist business.


You cannot break the iron grip of the ruling class.

And here we have the stand off. Where all are arguments break down, and capitalism shows it's naked self. Cold, hard and ruthless. You don't think we can break the system? who knows?, the point is, it's not impossible.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:18 PM
theres the french revolution

Ended with capitalism


the russian revolutin

State capitalism


what do they all have in common? a massacere of "the enemy" followed by bloody civil war followed by a dictator.

Unless you can prove scientifically, that these are natural and unavoidable repercussions of revolution, then I will just throw it back in your face and call it bullshit.

I wonder what you think of the American Revolution?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by Si [email protected]ul 20 2006, 03:21 PM
Many Batista soldiers changed sides during the revolution.
Yea, whatever makes the country stronger, eh? <_<

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:29 PM
Yes, because the Patriots died to preserve a free Cuba from the communist gangbangers who raped women above their class and sought to impose a dictatorship of the masses in opposition to the natural law of their class station.
Did they eat babies too? your post is beyond the fucking absurd, and believe me I am a fierce opponent of the cuban revolution.

[Si Pinto]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:29 PM
Yes, because the Patriots died to preserve a free Cuba from the communist gangbangers who raped women above their class and sought to impose a dictatorship of the masses in opposition to the natural law of their class station.
Difficult to actually put my response to that post into words without resorting to a string of counter insults.

So I&#39;ll just leave it at......

You clearly have no idea what your talking about, and are obviously prepared to go to any lengths, even obscene ones, in order to make your post worth reading (so you think anyway).

Now fuck off and stop flaming

AF


Yea, whatever makes the country stronger, eh?

I appreciate that your not a great fan of the Cuban revolution, that&#39;s your choice, but I&#39;m simply responding to the &#39;Che&#39; bashing going on in this thread (or should that be &#39;typical&#39; Che bashing). Most of it complete bullshit I might add, not that this matters to the typical OIer.

He died fighting for what he believed in...no more no less...but even at base level that is an admirable quality...to me anyway. ;)

[theraven]

Originally posted by Additives Free+Jul 20 2006, 04:27 PM--> (Additives Free @ Jul 20 2006, 04:27 PM)
[email protected] 20 2006, 03:18 PM
theres the french revolution

Ended with capitalism


the russian revolutin

State capitalism


what do they all have in common? a massacere of "the enemy" followed by bloody civil war followed by a dictator.

Unless you can prove scientifically, that these are natural and unavoidable repercussions of revolution, then I will just throw it back in your face and call it bullshit.

I wonder what you think of the American Revolution? [/b]
no not all revolutiosn, but any reovlution that is about the mass overthrow of society and the killing of the "(race/class/national) traitors" is going ot involve a lot of blood shed and most likely ened up as bad as before

re: the american revolution. several key things here

1) all classes/races praticapteed.

2) no mass killings of "x traitors". some loyaliists and patriots fought but i can&#39;t recall any massacec,res and espeiclly no state masacerse sanctioned by congress. there were no purges afterwords.

[Goatse]

Originally posted by theraven+Jul 20 2006, 03:08 PM--> (theraven @ Jul 20 2006, 03:08 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:07 PM

General [email protected] 20 2006, 03:41 AM
What does wb stand for? By the way, I like your personal quote. It sounds as if Che was a real coward.


"A colored soldier cannot think fast enough to fight in armor."

- General George Patton

:)
source? [/b]
I noticed no source for your nonsense either.

But yeah, I think I got it from Wikipedia. I&#39;ll get the exact link when I get home from my holiday in Poland. (Trying to find a page when the keyboard is full of dirty gooey crap after drinking several shots of Polish vodka isn&#39;t easy.)

[Jazzratt]

I&#39;ve just how ludicrous this whole discussion is. We&#39;re being called bloodthirsty by people who come up with thread titles like "I Want This Man Dead&#33;"

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 08:35 PM
I&#39;ve just how ludicrous this whole discussion is. We&#39;re being called bloodthirsty by people who come up with thread titles like "I Want This Man Dead&#33;"
because we want one guy, a traitor and clearly bad person, dead. you want people dead because they value private property

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by theraven+Jul 20 2006, 08:47 PM--> (theraven @ Jul 20 2006, 08:47 PM)
[email protected] 20 2006, 08:35 PM
I&#39;ve just how ludicrous this whole discussion is. We&#39;re being called bloodthirsty by people who come up with thread titles like "I Want This Man Dead&#33;"
because we want one guy, a traitor and clearly bad person, dead. you want people dead because they value private property [/b]
Weren&#39;t you railing against the killing of traitors post revolution? Are you a hypocrite? Why yes, yes you are.

People who value property above other human beings are clearly bad people.

You&#39;ve just argued yourself into a corner.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by theraven+Jul 20 2006, 08:08 AM--> (theraven @ Jul 20 2006, 08:08 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:07 PM

General [email protected] 20 2006, 03:41 AM
What does wb stand for? By the way, I like your personal quote. It sounds as if Che was a real coward.


"A colored soldier cannot think fast enough to fight in armor."

- General George Patton

:)
source? [/b]
Dipshit.

Why didn&#39;t you just google the quote and read the results? No wonder you dolts continue to idolise these jerk-offs; you&#39;re historically ignorant.




Article from World War II Magazine

761st Tank Battalion: Black Tankers of WWII
The 761st &#39;Black Panther&#39; Tank Battalion was the first African-American armored unit to see combat.

By Joseph E. Wilson, Jr.


Before and during mobilization for World War II, officials in Washington, D.C., debated whether or not African-American soldiers should be used in armored units. Many military men and politicians believed that blacks did not have the brains, quickness or moral stamina to fight in a war.

Referring to his World War I experiences, Colonel James A. Moss, commander of the 367th Infantry Regiment, 92nd Division, stated, "As fighting troops, the Negro must be rated as second-class material, this primarily to his inferior intelligence and lack of mental and moral qualities." Colonel Perry L. Miles, commander of the 371st Infantry Regiment, 93rd Division, voiced a similar opinion: "In a future war, the main use of the Negro should be in labor organizations." General George S. Patton, Jr., in a letter to his wife, wrote that "a colored soldier cannot think fast enough to fight in armor."

more..... (http://www.historynet.com/wwii/blblackpanthertanks/)

[Sabocat]

no not all revolutiosn, but any reovlution that is about the mass overthrow of society and the killing of the "(race/class/national) traitors" is going ot involve a lot of blood shed and most likely ened up as bad as before

re: the american revolution. several key things here

1) all classes/races praticapteed.

I&#39;ve never read such shit in all my life. All classes participated? Are you fucking kidding me? The landed aristocracy paid a fee to have peasants fight for them. The only wealthy that served were of course generals, captains, etc. and they weren&#39;t usually among the starving or dead.

But at least once they conned the peasant farmers to fight their war, they didn&#39;t pay them and then forclosed on their farms afterwards. (See Shay&#39;s Rebellion)

Races....LOL. Yeah the Native Americans helped.

2) no mass killings of "x traitors". some loyaliists and patriots fought but i can&#39;t recall any massacec,res and espeiclly no state masacerse sanctioned by congress. there were no purges afterwords.

Check your facts again. There were mass desertions and quite a few executions for desertion.

[Dean]

Al Jazeera is by no means an enemy of the U.S., except insofar as it disseminates informaton that Israeli/U.S. interests are ashamed of.

As for Che Guevara, I do not see much evidence for a particularly destructive personality. He clearly was interested in the freeing of humanity, a cause which was to him his livelihood. His methods were clearly antagonistic of centralized power.

[General Patton]

al-jazeera is a fuck of a lot more progressive

So, the cat&#39;s out of the bag. This isn&#39;t news to me, as I have long known that the Islamic jihadist have been in league with their communist and socialist counterparts for years. I remember a certain anti-war demonstration in Washington D.C. just prior to the start of the Iraq war. The demonstration was sponsored by International Answer (http://www.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ANS_homepage) and CAIR (http://www.cair-net.org/). Both the verminous left and the treacherous jihadists were in concert in chanting the same words the 9-11 hijackers yelled as they flew planes into the World Trade Towers. Yes, the liberal lemmings were complicit in screaming "Allah-u-akbar". Yes, progressive to all these sanctimonious leftwing pieces of offal means the same thing that Jihad means to the Islamists, which is, take down the west and its culture at any price. They aren&#39;t as willing to die as their allies, so the left figures they will sit idle and wait for Al-Qaeda to do the heavy lifting, and then steal away the spoils, once their shared goal has been accomplished. There is only one problem with that. Al-Qaeda is just as likely to decapitate the left, as they are the foul byproduct of a consumeristic society that doesn&#39;t appreciate or value innovation and achievement because they are too stupid to benefit from market principles. These new-aged communists are living in all the key target cities that Al-Qaeda is no doubt planning to hit. Left-wingers are f*cking morons.

[Zero]

Originally posted by "General Patton"
So, the cat&#39;s out of the bag. This isn&#39;t news to me, as I have long known that the Islamic jihadist have been in league with their communist and socialist counterparts for years.
It must be the Jews too&#33; The JOOOOS&#33; It&#39;s a conspiricy&#33; Run for your life&#33; :rolleyes:

[General Patton]

Left-wingers are the ones who hate the jews and find themselves being complicit when its time to start shoving people into ovens. The Nazis made all the same egalitarian promises that I hear you making about your ideology.

[RevSouth]

Originally posted by General [email protected] 24 2006, 09:33 PM
Left-wingers are the ones who hate the jews and find themselves being complicit when its time to start shoving people into ovens. The Nazis made all the same egalitarian promises that I hear you making about your ideology.
Hmm. We want equality and freedom for all people, not a specific race. We promote the abolishment of class society, the Nazis wanted a clear division. When have we hated the Jews? We don&#39;t look at people based on "race".


Al-Jazeera, our enemy’s propaganda machine.

The mainstream media is base on, you guessed it, profit. Do you think if a tape of Bin Laden&#39;s latest announcement showed up on your precious Fox News&#39; doorstep, that they would refuse to air it? No. They would want to be the first with the video, and the first to air it. So calling them a &#39;propaganda machine&#39; is unfair. They are just another major media company trying to cash in on current events.

[theraven]

I&#39;ve never read such shit in all my life. All classes participated? Are you fucking kidding me? The landed aristocracy paid a fee to have peasants fight for them. The only wealthy that served were of course generals, captains, etc. and they weren&#39;t usually among the starving or dead.


1) by all classes i meant it wasn&#39;t just the masses rising up against the rich.
2) no plenty of poor poele believed in the cause too


But at least once they conned the peasant farmers to fight their war, they didn&#39;t pay them and then forclosed on their farms afterwards. (See Shay&#39;s Rebellion)

indeed-some people were not nice


Races....LOL. Yeah the Native Americans helped.


some did


Check your facts again. There were mass desertions and quite a few executions for desertion.

killing desretes is different. besides being a univeral pracitice..no wait thats it.

[Zero]

Originally posted by "RedSouth"
We don&#39;t look at people based on "race".

... uhh... Judism isn&#39;t a race.

[bezdomni]

"I am a worthless peice of nationalist shit"
-General Patton&#39;s last words

"I get a boner when I see Brittany Spears, because she is so talented, creative and hot."
-Ebeneezer

"I cant&#39; evr mananage to typ a cohrent sentnce"
-theraven

I figured this would be appropriate, since we were falsely quoting people.

[RevSouth]

Originally posted by Zero+Jul 24 2006, 11:36 PM--> (Zero @ Jul 24 2006, 11:36 PM)
"RedSouth"
We don&#39;t look at people based on "race".

... uhh... Judism isn&#39;t a race. [/b]
"The Jews" are viewed as a race by some. It is also a religion, Judaism.

[General Patton]

There are legitimate reasons to call Judaism a race, a religion, and an ethnic group. However, not all jews share the same ancestory, practice the religion, or share the same culture. The ethnic claim is probably the strongest.


"The Jews" are viewed as a race by some.

Jews are kind of touchy about the racial claim because it was their supposed racial inferiority that Hitler used as justification for the Nazi&#39;s attempted genocide of the Jewish people.

[Zero]

Ah, well. I haven&#39;t ever actually had a meaningful face to face conversation with a Jew, I&#39;ve never known any practicing Jews, and the only (limited) source of information I get about that kind of thing is soundbytes off the TV, or obscure references in Wikipedia.

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2006, 04:47 AM
"I am a worthless peice of nationalist shit"
-General Patton&#39;s last words

"I get a boner when I see Brittany Spears, because she is so talented, creative and hot."
-Ebeneezer

"I cant&#39; evr mananage to typ a cohrent sentnce"
-theraven

I figured this would be appropriate, since we were falsely quoting people.
whos flasely quoting now?

[Goatse]

Originally posted by theraven+Jul 25 2006, 02:52 PM--> (theraven &#064; Jul 25 2006, 02:52 PM)
[email protected] 25 2006, 04:47 AM
"I am a worthless peice of nationalist shit"
-General Patton&#39;s last words

"I get a boner when I see Brittany Spears, because she is so talented, creative and hot."
-Ebeneezer

"I cant&#39; evr mananage to typ a cohrent sentnce"
-theraven

I figured this would be appropriate, since we were falsely quoting people.
whos flasely quoting now? [/b]
I see your irony detector was off today. Wait, unless you were also being ironic by not typing coherently. But unfortuately, I feel doubtful. :(