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CoexisT
19th July 2006, 03:33
Do you think, if there was a revolution in the US, that any of its allies would come to its aid? If so, that might hinder the whole revolution thing... a bit... <_<

My second question, US citizens do not have the right (under law) to organize revolution or overthrow of the government, so how do people go about doing that? Just wait until everybody gets so pissed off that they blow?

Thanks in advance.

ahab
19th July 2006, 03:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 12:34 AM
Do you think, if there was a revolution in the US, that any of its allies would come to its aid? If so, that might hinder the whole revolution thing... a bit... <_<

My second question, US citizens do not have the right (under law) to organize revolution or overthrow of the government, so how do people go about doing that? Just wait until everybody gets so pissed off that they blow?

Thanks in advance.
yes the US would probably call for support from its allies if it got out of control, as a last resort type thing.
Whether any of the US&#39;s allies would want to get involved we will just have to wait and see.

Also, it makes since that it is illegal to organize revolution or plot to overthrow the government :wacko: the government doesnt want that to happen lol

If the mass populas realized that they were being exploited to work for the ruling class while at the same time being oppressed, then maybe they would take up arms. Most citizens of the US are brainwashed, we are brainwashed from youth to believe that capitalism and are country is the only right and true thing. The government wants us to believe that everyone who disagree&#39;s with the US is a terrorist and that the security of our nation is above all the most important, so things like the occupation of Iraq for its oil is justified because they say it will help our economy. If people woke up and realized what was going on then we could formally start a resistance and hopefully one day overcome. Until then the resistance relies on the radicals of the US to stir things up in their community

AK47
19th July 2006, 21:30
Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2006, 08:34 PM
Do you think, if there was a revolution in the US, that any of its allies would come to its aid? If so, that might hinder the whole revolution thing... a bit... <_<

My second question, US citizens do not have the right (under law) to organize revolution or overthrow of the government, so how do people go about doing that? Just wait until everybody gets so pissed off that they blow?

Thanks in advance.
Well, our "leaders" would probably not want to accept their inability to control their "subjects" and would not call for outside help until too late. Then this would open the doors for the donating countries to erupt into their own conflicts.

I do not think people will get angry enough to join a revolution as long as corporate America owns the airways and can manipulate the masses with the programing they shove in our faces. Active organizations must go to the street not to riot, but protest and exchange information. Some are just too addicted to the materialism to be receptive to a communal answer, they just need to be ignored. If one out of 100 people read a leaflet and have an "AH, that makes sense" moment then the movement will grow. Eventually the people who run this Global Capitalist World will react. This is when The Revolution will happen. This is what we have to prepare for.


Read the Declaration of Independence, we have the right and duty to remove a government that does not act in the interest of its people.

Janus
19th July 2006, 21:46
Just wait until everybody gets so pissed off that they blow?
Agitate and create awareness. Protesting against the government is quite different from calling for its direct destruction.

bazarov
19th July 2006, 22:24
Just like the ancien regime the bourgeoisee in one country will definitely support its counterparts in another. They are a global concern and always take the interests of their class above the those of the citizens of their nation. How direct or immediate such intervention would be is the only question.

However the whole discussion is probably moot anyways. As has been hinted at in earlier replies a large part of the U.S. working class is not culturally disposed towards revolution or standing up for their own interests in any other meaningful fashion. They are permanently distracted by the "culture wars", the "war on terror", and other manufactured sideshows. It is the whole "What&#39;s Wrong with Kansas" syndrome. People who make less than a living wage, have no health care coverage, and a low standard of living are still voting based on their conservative "values". They would sooner listen to their evangelical pastor paint them a pretty picture of the next life than do something to improve this one. They are the perfect neo-serfs of the corporate world order.

I believe a much more likely scenario than mass revolution in the U.S. would be a gradual fragmentation of the nation as we continue to polarize politically between the yahoos in the "red states" as described above and the more progressive areas of the nation.

Perhaps it would end up being a situation where communists consolidate their power in certain "progressive" areas and work from there.

DPCC2002
21st July 2006, 03:24
The US would indefinently call upon its ever-dwindling supply of allies of there was a revolution this day. However, I think that if the US&#39;s allies were to come to aid, it could very well spark revolutions in there own countries, given the US&#39;s enourmous popularity with the rest of the world.

RevSouth
21st July 2006, 04:34
They would definitely call their allies, but jast as someone else said, too late. The United States is a very proud country. Also the bourgeoisie will always come to eachother&#39;s aid. Just look at the French Revolution, when monarchies around Europe attempted to come to the French royalty&#39;s aid. But my reasoning is by the time a Revolution comes in the United States, its probably already happening all around the world. I think the climate in the U.S. is one of the last to become revolutionary, especially if it is still cashing in on Imperialist tendencies.