View Full Version : Lula - How's the new Brasilian goverment getting on?
inessa1917
24th May 2003, 22:44
There was a big campaign to elect Lula for the leadership of Brasilia -- he was a rather nice leftist guy, from a worker family, used to be a trade union leader, so everybody was hoping that he'll be able to stop Brasilia's complete exploitation by IMF & WTO.
About three months ago I read about himself in a national (rather neoliberal, anyway) economical paper, that after getting the power he's not as leftist as he used to be ... As the article stated, now he is hanging with the Brasilian conservatives, and claims that he'll follow Brasilia's neoliberal consolidation ... I was rather worried when I read this article, but I couldn't get any further infos from anywhere.
Doesn't anybody know something closer about this? Is the situation really as serious as the article stated?
YKTMX
25th May 2003, 23:43
Typical reformist sell-out. Could see it coming a mile off.
Guardia Bolivariano
26th May 2003, 03:43
Well inessa1917 I had the change to read a much more recent paper about Lula's "leftism" and basicly he is crackind down on the hard line leftist ans making alliances with the old parties.
He told the hard line leftists leaders in general to be moderate.
How can you expect change if you're going to be moderate.
Lula could end up as another Lucio Gutierrez If he keeps It up.
Dr. Rosenpenis
26th May 2003, 04:27
The only way he could reach office was to try to appease the old, more accepted parties. His ultimate goal is to end hunger and poverty. As of now, I understand he is taking very conservative economic stances, we'll see.
Guardia Bolivariano
26th May 2003, 04:35
Well Ih he is doing in this to help the poor then It's fantastic.
But I really doubt they old parties will be interested in seing their portion of power be lost.
But more time is needed to see what Lula's really doing.
inessa1917
26th May 2003, 08:30
No, as far I could see his point was the following 1. get the power with radical propaganda 2. then, start a policy which is even more conservative than ABB in their best days. :-( (AFAIK at the election of him even the guerillas left the front to vote for him, and now he keeps them calling drug traders as it is usual in conservative circles)
As I see, the problem is mainly in Lula and not in his party, which has a revolutionary left wing. The only thing which is in question whether they can replace him or not. You know, one always has to be careful with these trade union leader guys -- many of them tends to be f*cking bureaucratic.
thursday night
26th May 2003, 21:26
I think Chavez is more of a hope for our movement that Lula.
Dr. Rosenpenis
27th May 2003, 02:52
Lula is by no means, a revolutionary, he is simply trying to bring basic human necessities to his starving people. Unfortunately, he cannot see that a Communist revolution would be the best maner in which to acomplish this.
Subcomandante Marcos
27th May 2003, 03:10
Lula has changed lots from his early years. Before he used to speak to the people with Che's image behind him, he was a hard-core leftist, he suffered from hunger and was born on brazil's poorest ghettos.
His propaganda was from the left and he possed as a real reformist, his Hunger Zero program seemed to solve many problems in one of the biggest economies on Latin America. But now he seems to be leaning to the center, trying to make pacts with conservatives and breaking links with the far-left. I see this as pure political strategy, if you want your country to run you need the help of everyone, but always remembering your ideals, if he starts privatizing companies than he is gone.
I still see him as a reformist, as great hope to Brazil and Latin America, being from the streets i dont think he would sell the country to foreign companies or private interests.
Grande Lula !!!!
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