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Hampton
24th May 2003, 22:07
May 23, 2003 -- Residents of a Bronx building are outraged after getting an unexpected morning "greeting" yesterday from a police drug squad, which burst into their homes, waved guns at children and then left after finding nothing.

"At 7:50 a.m., they burst down the door to the building," said Joe Celcis, a teacher whose mother and sister live in the home.

"After an hour and a half, they said, 'Sorry wrong house,' and left."

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/57964.htm
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Manhattan prosecutors and NYPD Internal Affairs launched a probe yesterday into the fatal shooting of an unarmed African immigrant by a police officer during a raid on a Chelsea storage facility.

Ousmane Zongo, a 43-year-old craftsman with no criminal record, was shot four times - including once in the back - after he was chased into a dead-end hallway, police said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/864...41p-78787c.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/86441p-78787c.html)

redstar2000
24th May 2003, 22:35
Best line in the New York Post story:

"How can a 12-year-old forget having a gun pointed at her? She was treated like she was in Iraq."

Yes.

:cool:

Urban Rubble
25th May 2003, 23:40
I can't say that I'm suprised.

An interesting side note. I was hanging out at my buddies house the other day watching a skate video when we hear a big bang come from the living rooom. Before we can even get up there are about 5 shotguns in my face, then 2 seconds later one of the shotguns is replaced by a boot. What happened was, my friend has been selling SMALL amounts of weed just to friends for the last 2 years. The cops raided the house, kicked me in the face and ribs, and what did they find you ask ? A bong, a gram of weed and a silencer I had made for my handgun. All this to get a $10 bag of weed "off the streets" as they put it. Oh, and this little operation probably costed the city a couple thousand dollars. I was taken to jail and released with no charges an hour later. But now I'm in some book of supicious people to look out for because of the homeade silencer, the book, of course, is a result of the patriot act.

Umoja
26th May 2003, 01:02
Why would you need a silencer?

Blibblob
26th May 2003, 01:44
He's weird?

Urban Rubble
26th May 2003, 03:20
2 reasons. I wanted to see if I could make them. Just because, also you can sell those to gangsters in Seattle. Also, we like to shoot guns but sometimes if people hear them they call the cops. We don't shoot near the houses but people still get pissed, then the cops come and take your gun and you have to go to the station to get it back.

Conghaileach
26th May 2003, 13:44
Aren't gun licences easy to get in the US?

And I also know what it's like to take a kicking from the police.

chamo
26th May 2003, 13:49
The police nearly ran me over once for swinging some nanchucks in a car park, unmarked car pulls right up fast and skids. Scared the shit out of me, thought we was about to be done a drive by.;)

Urban Rubble
27th May 2003, 01:28
Ya, police love to scare the fuck out of people. I got shot with a beanbag shotgun during the WTO riots in Seattle, it fractured my shin where it hit. I've seriously been injured by cops about 7 times, the most I've ever been convicted of is a weed charge. Makes me wonder how many people per day get their asses kicked for nothing.

dsmtuner
27th May 2003, 02:13
Cops around here get all these nice cars for doing nothing. Whenever I see a cop they're eating.

truthaddict11
27th May 2003, 04:05
Quote: from Urban Rubble on 8:28 pm on May 26, 2003
Ya, police love to scare the fuck out of people. I got shot with a beanbag shotgun during the WTO riots in Seattle, it fractured my shin where it hit. I've seriously been injured by cops about 7 times, the most I've ever been convicted of is a weed charge. Makes me wonder how many people per day get their asses kicked for nothing.


i got a video from the WTO protests, Police were fucking crazy there. what were you wearing maybe you are in there

Urban Rubble
27th May 2003, 05:04
I think I was wearing a black sweatshirt and black jeans. I doubt I'm on any videos, I was trying to avoid cameras, alot of people who weren't so careful got arrested. Plus, I wasn't out there for that long after I got hit with the beanbag, that shit seriously hurt so bad. I said to hell with protesting, I went home and smoked my sorrows away.

I wish I would have been a member of this board back then, I could've been such a celebrity !!! Just kidding.

Chasovoy
28th May 2003, 08:01
You live in a really fucked up country, you know that? Such repression(not really sure if i spelled this correctly...) from the police would never happen here in my homeland.

Democracy...hypocrisy...

Hampton
28th May 2003, 08:27
Sad thing is shit like that happens everyday, it's only out of say a dozen that one story about police harassment, repression, intimidation, and abuse that might get reported. Stories like cops breaking down the door of the wrong apartment wouldn't happen in say, Madison Ave where the real crooks are.

You sound like Malcolm X when he said:"You and I have never seen democracy, all we've seen is hypocrisy."

MarxIsGod
28th May 2003, 19:13
Quote: from Hampton on 8:27 am on May 28, 2003
Sad thing is shit like that happens everyday, it's only out of say a dozen that one story about police harassment, repression, intimidation, and abuse that might get reported. Stories like cops breaking down the door of the wrong apartment wouldn't happen in say, Madison Ave where the real crooks are.

You sound like Malcolm X when he said:"You and I have never seen democracy, all we've seen is hypocrisy."


Though I don't live in NYC, I live in a suburb of Newark and hear about this stuff constantly on the news. New York has become a hypocratic city where the people whose political views are represented the most are the ones with the most money in their wallets.

Hampton
28th May 2003, 20:12
Isn't that always the truth though? It's like free press belongs to those who own one. I think the only way, if you don't have money, to make your voice heard is to organize with people who have the same problems.

The Radical Elf
2nd June 2003, 04:14
The cops in my area are very strange. Some are assholes and some aren't. Like, for example the day after the blitzkrieg of Iraq began, 30 of us anti-capitalist had a breakaway march and six cop cars and ten cops blocked the street and arrested someone by shoving him into the hood of a cop car after persuing us for two blocks and they seemed to enjoy it.

But at a protest at a different location, a cop stopped by to ask if there had been any disturbances or if anyone had done anything threatening to us and also chatted with people about things unrelated to protest and seemed to be on our side.

Dirty Commie
2nd June 2003, 19:09
Elf, you're lucky, at my protests, the cops usally are the ones threatening/harassing us.

one sick kid
3rd June 2003, 22:55
your first story sort of reminds me of how when the U.S. was dropping bombs on Kosovo, they "only bombed factories producing WOMD and tried to steer clear of civilians at all costs." when in reality, they bombed 2 schools, and what they thought was a factory for making nuclear warheads turned out to be an asprin factory..

The Radical Elf
5th June 2003, 04:02
Dirty Commie, the cops DO harrass and threaten us at protests, but only at certain locations. At other locations, they leave us alone. The place where they sometimes harrass us is right next to an upper-class shopping district (called the JC Nichols Plaza). I think they started threatening and harrassing us because the night after the war began, all of the shoppers and people at the outdoor restaurants fled when we took to the streets and our prescense at the shopping district might have been scaring away people.

Conghaileach
5th June 2003, 14:28
Via Workers World News Service
Reprinted from the June 5, 2003
issue of Workers World newspaper
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HARLEM MOURNS ALBERTA SPRUILL:
COMMUNITY OUTRAGED BY POLICE KILLING OF UNION WORKER

By Stephen Millies
Harlem, N.Y.

"Why did they have to kill her?" That's the question people in Harlem
are asking about the death of Alberta Spruill. The 57-year-old African
American died of heart failure on May 16--after police raided her
apartment and set off a concussion grenade.

Spruill was looking forward to retirement after spending 29 years
working for New York City. A member of AFSCME Local 1547, she was known
for handing out bags of candy to neighborhood children.

None of this meant anything to the half-dozen Emergency Services Unit
cops who broke down her door without warning shortly after dawn. A judge
had issued them a "no-knock" warrant on the word of an alleged
informant.

According to Newsday columnist Leon ard Levitt, it's customary for cops
in these raids to throw residents to the ground, handcuff them and point
guns at their head. That's enough stress to kill anyone, especially
someone with a history of heart trouble like Spruill.

It was ESU cop Stephen Sullivan who fired his shotgun twice at Eleanor
Bumpurs on Oct. 29, 1984, killing her. The elderly woman's "crime" was
owing the New York City Housing Authority $417.10 in back rent.

CROCODILE TEARS FROM BILLIONAIRE MAYOR

Three thousand people came to Alberta Spruill's May 24 funeral at her
church, Convent Avenue Baptist. Presidential candidate the Rev. Al
Sharpton gave a eulogy.

Also making an appearance was the 63rd wealthiest person on earth,
according to Forbes magazine, and 29th richest in the United States: New
York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly tagged
along.

The only reason these two showed up was their fear that Harlem might
explode.

The man from City Hall told the mourners, "We all failed humanity."
Humanity has nothing to do with it. It's the police protecting
billionaires who bankroll these bloody crimes.

Naming the M1 bus line after Alberta Spruill, as Bloomberg suggested, is
not enough. Bloomberg's $4.8 billion would be enough to give $16,000 to
each of Harlem's 300,000 inhabitants.

MARCHING THROUGH HARLEM

On May 25, the day after the funeral, 200 people gathered behind
Spruill's apartment house to protest her death. Sara Bailey, president
of the tenants' assoc iation at 310 West 143rd Street, welcomed people
to where Alberta Spruill lived.

It was a community rally, with a cook-out following a march. Nellie
Bailey, leader of the Harlem Tenants Council, chaired the event.

People spoke about losing loved ones to police violence.

Juanita Young told the crowd how cops killed her son Malcolm Ferguson on
March 1, 2000. Police had shot Amadou Diallo 41 times in the same Bronx
neighborhood the year before.

Ferguson had protested the acquittal of the cops who shot Diallo.

A family friend of Georgy Louisgene talked of how the 23-year old
Haitian was gunned down in Brooklyn on Jan. 16, 2002. Cops claim that he
was "acting irrational."

Actually, Louisgene had asked residents to call police to "rescue" him
after he was beaten. He got killed instead.

Viola Plummer and Omawale Clay spoke on behalf of the Dec. 12th Move
ment. Plummer, who was National Chair person of the Millions for Repar
ations rally in Washington, fired up the crowd.

Police didn't dare interfere when people took to the streets, not the
sidewalks. They went down Malcolm X Boulevard and passed the Schomburg
Library, the world's largest collection of Black history. Just as the
U.S. military brass conspired to loot Iraq's museums and libraries, New
York City officials plotted to destroy the Schomburg in the mid-1970s.

The closing rally was held in front of the Adam Clayton Powell Jr. State
Office Building located at 125th Street--the most famous in Black
America.

Forty years before, on the same corner Malcolm X spoke to crowds. Across
the intersection stood the Hotel Theresa, where Malcolm X first met
Fidel Castro in 1960.

At this historic site Brenda Stokely--like Alberta Spruill a member of
AFSCME--spoke. We have to do more than march, said Stokely, president of
AFSCME District Council 1707. Daniel Vila told of plans to hold a
community congress against police brutality in the summer.

"While grenades are thrown in occupied Baghdad by the U.S. military,
grenades are thrown in occupied Harlem and other communities of color by
cops," Johnnie Stevens of the People's Video Network told Workers World.
"Mobilizing within the belly of the beast to stop the war against Black
America is also the greatest solidarity we can give our sisters and
brothers in Iraq."

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