U.s. Wants To Give Detainees Geneva Rights

[Janus]

The Bush administration, called to account by Congress after the Supreme Court blocked military tribunals, said Tuesday all detainees at Guantanamo Bay and in U.S. military custody everywhere are entitled to protections under the Geneva Conventions.

U.S. will give detainees Geneva rights (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060711/ap_on_go_pr_wh/congress_guantanamo;_ylt=Ai4qwEmExvDcY8o2m2_Siapvz wcF;_ylu=X3oDMTA0cDJlYmhvBHNlYwM-)

Bush finally backing down to Congressional and international pressure? Maybe looking to gain more approval?

What do you think?

[Delta]

They probably just had the realization that unless they did this the Democrats are just going to have one more subject for a good negative campaign commercial in the upcoming elections (as well as the later presidential). So this reason coupled with the fact that Bush and his cronies don't get any financial gain by preventing peole from having rights. He'd much rather focus his political energy on tax breaks for the rich.

Plus, just because he says they have rights, do you think they will really get them? What are they going to do with all those torture devices they just bought?

[Janus]

Plus, just because he says they have rights, do you think they will really get them?
I would never trust politicians to always act on their words. But in accordance with the Conventions, the detainees would have to be given proper trials.


What are they going to do with all those torture devices they just bought?
Ship them to somewhere where they can use them.

[Kia]

About Fucking time (okay if I swear? I always forget if iI can or cant) that they gave detainees Geneva Convention rights. The only problem is, is that they are only giving them the minimum amount of rights listed under the Geneva Convention.




Plus, just because he says they have rights, do you think they will really get them?

I would never trust politicians to always act on their words. But in accordance with the Conventions, the detainees would have to be given proper trials.



What are they going to do with all those torture devices they just bought?

Ship them to somewhere where they can use them.

I think at this point the Bush adminastration along with the US government has to make sure these rights are followed. Human Rights watchdog groups will rip Bush to shreds if they find out he hasnt been following the laws. For the Republicans to even have a chance at winning the next presidental elections they have to stick to follow the laws so that the democrats dont have anything to use against them in 2008.

There is a catch to this geneva rights thing. It doesnt apply to people held by the CIA. So that means the US government still has people to use their torture devices on. Sick bastards. :angry:

[Janus]

Human Rights watchdog groups will rip Bush to shreds if they find out he hasnt been following the laws
They have been trying to do that just like many other countries around the world. But the US government generally doesn't listen to them.

[Kia]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 06:40 PM

Human Rights watchdog groups will rip Bush to shreds if they find out he hasnt been following the laws
They have been trying to do that just like many other countries around the world. But the US government generally doesn't listen to them.
Thats very True but the thing about it this time is that the US Supreme Court has told Bush that he has to follow the rules. Beforehand Bush could easily deny that he was violating the geneva convention or say he was following them the whole time. Now everyone knows that he was violating the geneva convention and that he is forced now by the court to follow the convention.
Watchdogs before had no one else to back them up with their accusations but now if they find that bush has broken the Geneva convention then he will have also gone against what the Supreme Court has said..which is basically about a big of a violation of US laws as one can commit.

[Delta]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 10:51 AM
which is basically about a big of a violation of US laws as one can commit.
Well, you would have thought that disregarding the Constitution would have been a violation too eh?

[Severian]

The Supreme Court also said the administration can go ahead with its military tribunals in Guantanamo - as long as it gets congressional authorization for them.

So they have to do a certain lip service to the Geneva Convention. That's a small price to pay.

It's also important to remember that things are much worse in other prisons than in Guantanamo. The prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan, the secret prisons in Eastern Europe and elsewhere, the prisons of client regimes where prisoners are sent by "extraordinary rendition" - all of those are much worse. Events at Guantanamo get more attention.

[Janus]

The Supreme Court also said the administration can go ahead with its military tribunals in Guantanamo - as long as it gets congressional authorization for them.
The Supreme Court blocked that, didn't it? That's why the Senate is trying to change US law to allow for the military tribunals.