Where Is Redstar?

[theraven]

Red Star used to come into OI and debate sometimes, but I haven't seen him in a while. Where'd he go?

[Forward Union]

He's not here at the moment. And it's no matter of the boards whats up, sorry we can't reveal more but it's personal stuff we're not sure he'd want to let out. If he did, he would have.

I understand you miss him :rolleyes:

[theraven]

Originally posted by Additives [email protected] 7 2006, 08:52 PM
He's not here at the moment. And it's no matter of the boards whats up, sorry we can't reveal more but it's personal stuff we're not sure he'd want to let out. If he did, he would have.

I understand you miss him :rolleyes:
wow I just heard an erie sound of the old soviet propagand towers

"its no concern of yours what the army is doing, go back to your buisness"

and miss him? sure he was a mildly intellegent debater. i never knew him personally, So i can't speak about that.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 08:54 PM
wow I just heard an erie sound of the old soviet propagand towers

"its no concern of yours what the army is doing, go back to your buisness"

Was there a political point to this statement? anyway, im sure you can wait, lots of users stop posting for periods of time and come back.

[theraven]

Originally posted by Additives Free+Jul 7 2006, 08:57 PM--> (Additives Free @ Jul 7 2006, 08:57 PM)
[email protected] 7 2006, 08:54 PM
wow I just heard an erie sound of the old soviet propagand towers

"its no concern of yours what the army is doing, go back to your buisness"

Was there a political point to this statement? anyway, im sure you can wait, lots of users stop posting for periods of time and come back. [/b]
sure, but admins generally give an explaintion..

[Sabocat]

He fueled up his Gulfstream IV and went on holiday.

[More Fire for the People]

He has gone missing in the mountains. He either pulled a Sunny Bono or was abducted by aliens, we are unsure.

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 09:49 PM
He fueled up his Gulfstream IV and went on holiday.
that sounds like a normal hypocritical communsit thing to do.

[Janus]

First of all, could someone move this to Chit Chat or something.

I'm moved by how a restricted member actually misses the guy but if you must know, we believe that he has either gone to live in the bayou or been abducted by aliens. :lol:

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 10:42 PM
First of all, could someone move this to Chit Chat or something.

I'm moved by how a restricted member actually misses the guy but if you must know, we believe that he has either gone to live in the bayou or been abducted by aliens. :lol:
um why move it to somewhere where the thread starter can't respond?

[Comrade J]

Cos you're restricted and therefore don't matter to anyone? :P

People have been asking this in Chit Chat as well, nobody there has got an answer and it's none of our business what Redstar does, or why he hasn't posted for a while.

[spanishinquisition]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 10:42 PM
First of all, could someone move this to Chit Chat or something.

I\'m moved by how a restricted member actually misses the guy but if you must know, we believe that he has either gone to live in the bayou or been abducted by aliens. :lol:
There is already a redstar thread in chitchat. Best leave this one here...

[Janus]

um why move it to somewhere where the thread starter can't respond?
Because that's where it belongs. OI is not for spam and asking about other people's personal situations.

You could also look at the clues for yourself. He did say that he may be moving in a thread in here.

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 11:01 PM

um why move it to somewhere where the thread starter can't respond?
Because that's where it belongs. OI is not for spam and asking about other people's personal situations.

You could also look at the clues for yourself. He did say that he may be moving in a thread in here.
I have looked around, and it appears not only are OI'ers not being told, but normal non-commie club members as well. this lends me to believe this is an other then normal absence-hence the curiosty.

[bcbm]

Stop asking questions.

[Janus]

Best leave this one here...
I see.


I have looked around
In one of his OI posts, he mentioned that he might be moving. He's only been gone a week. That's not totally unnormal.

[razboz]

I don't know what's happened to Redstar but if he ever comes back his ego is going to be the size of a fairly large galaxy at the amount of attention his absence has been getting on this forum...

[which doctor]

He is preparing to receive his Nobel Peace Prize.

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Redstar has gone monkey balls, he's now partying it up in Vegas.

[theraven]

I notice the commie club members are all evading the quetsions.

its hard to keep the masses ignroant isn't it? now you kno whow the governmnet feels :-p.

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by theraven+Jul 7 2006, 08:54 PM--> (theraven @ Jul 7 2006, 08:54 PM)
Additives [email protected] 7 2006, 08:52 PM
He's not here at the moment. And it's no matter of the boards whats up, sorry we can't reveal more but it's personal stuff we're not sure he'd want to let out. If he did, he would have.

I understand you miss him :rolleyes:
wow I just heard an erie sound of the old soviet propagand towers [/b]
Cde Redstar2k is still here, what are you talking about. I taught you were joking.

HIS TEACHINGS LIVE ON THROUGH US
WE UPHOLD THE GLORIOUS TRADITION OF MARXISM-REDSTARISM

[PRC-UTE]

Originally posted by black banner black [email protected] 8 2006, 06:00 AM
Stop asking questions.
Indeed. Where is the NKVD when you need them.

[encephalon]

you will all receive an answer in due time at redstar's own approval.

Until then, keep in mind that even you cappies are supposed to respect the right to privacy.. or some of you, anyhow.

Oh, and he loves you. And by that I mean that he loves your respective genitals.

[Felicia]

I love redstar :wub:

[which doctor]

Okay, here's the truth for all the non-CC members.


He is currently raising funds and campaigning for the 2008 democratic presidential election.

He is very busy and has no time to post.

[theraven]

Originally posted by Fist of [email protected] 9 2006, 03:19 PM
Okay, here's the truth for all the non-CC members.


He is currently raising funds and campaigning for the 2008 democratic presidential election.

He is very busy and has no time to post.
wouldn't suprise me, except i doubt he has that kind of power.

[Dean]

It's probably better if he leaves. he was little more than an antagonistic man that usually offered defeatist arguments for his secularist hatred.

[Anti-Red]

Maybe the Redstar guy converted to the right path?

[ComradeRed]

Originally posted by Anti-[email protected] 9 2006, 07:11 PM
Maybe the Redstar guy converted to the right path?
Wow, what a philistine.

[spanishinquisition]

Originally posted by ComradeRed+Jul 10 2006, 03:14 AM--> (ComradeRed @ Jul 10 2006, 03:14 AM)
Anti-[email protected] 9 2006, 07:11 PM
Maybe the Redstar guy converted to the right path?
Wow, what a philistine. [/b]
Looking over this elder Redstars posts I would say he would never have converted away from Marxism. I guess he would sooner be incapacitated with a stroke or something...

[theraven]

Originally posted by spanishinquisition+Jul 10 2006, 05:11 AM--> (spanishinquisition @ Jul 10 2006, 05:11 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 03:14 AM

Anti-[email protected] 9 2006, 07:11 PM
Maybe the Redstar guy converted to the right path?
Wow, what a philistine.
Looking over this elder Redstars posts I would say he would never have converted away from Marxism. I guess he would sooner be incapacitated with a stroke or something... [/b]
yea..some people would rather die than admit they are wrong.

[spanishinquisition]

Originally posted by theraven+Jul 10 2006, 05:33 AM--> (theraven @ Jul 10 2006, 05:33 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 03:14 AM

Anti-[email protected] 9 2006, 07:11 PM
Maybe the Redstar guy converted to the right path?
Wow, what a philistine.
Looking over this elder Redstars posts I would say he would never have converted away from Marxism. I guess he would sooner be incapacitated with a stroke or something...
yea..some people would rather die than admit they are wrong. [/b]
hmmm. Maybe the communism has eaten the right-side of his brain and will now move onto the left?

[encephalon]

hmmm. Maybe the communism has eaten the right-side of his brain and will now move onto the left?

Or maybe capitalism killed him first.

[Janus]

Look, I'm sure you're all worried about redstar and crave info. so there will be an announcement soon about him.

[RedStarOverChina]

Damn I miss him. :(

[Taiga]

We all do

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2006, 12:12 AM
I notice the commie club members are all evading the quetsions.

its hard to keep the masses ignroant isn't it? now you kno whow the governmnet feels :-p.
We're not evading the question, it's just that it's none of your business.

[theraven]

Originally posted by Disgustapated+Jul 10 2006, 09:55 PM--> (Disgustapated @ Jul 10 2006, 09:55 PM)
[email protected] 9 2006, 12:12 AM
I notice the commie club members are all evading the quetsions.

its hard to keep the masses ignroant isn't it? now you kno whow the governmnet feels :-p.
We're not evading the question, it's just that it's none of your business. [/b]
Im not askin which of yous screwin who..just curious as to why redstar hasn't posted (outside the CC) since may. the fact that you are in such ardent defesn of not revealing it makes me wonder what the hell is going on

[Janus]

Im not askin which of yous screwin who..just curious as to why redstar hasn't posted (outside the CC) since may. the fact that you are in such ardent defesn of not revealing it makes me wonder what the hell is going on
There will be an announcement about redstar shortly since he has deemed it necessary that all members should know (I suppose that includes the restricted ones as well).

[Ol' Dirty]

I rather disliked Redstar's comments about my views (not that I really care what he, or any other person, thinks). I found them rather bullyish and cold-hearted.

Also, I dislike how he gathers such a following around him (not in a "fear the masses" sense, but in a "I feel a bit like one of those nerds in the locker room, being beaten for beaing different", way). I feel that he, and a few other members on this board, are a bit clique-y in their manner, almost a "cult of personality", as it were.

About him personally, I bet he's a nice fellow (not that I know him, but I'm sure he's rather intelligent, if he is so opinionated), yet his debating style shows otherwise. On a debate/discussion sesne, I think he goes a bit over the top.


I merely wich this board was a nice place for leftist to share their views without feeling let down, and redstar2000 isn't quite helping.

That's all, really. :)

[Janus]

I feel that he, and a few other members on this board, are a bit clique-y in their manner, almost a "cult of personality", as it were.
If you mean cliques as in Leninists, anarchists, etc. then yes. However, I do not see any personality cults forming on RevLeft.

A lot of members take on redstar and the other admins all the time but if you're going to get into a discussion with redstar, you've really got to pack some heat.

Members here respect him because of his age and his prolific posts. There is no personality cult...yet. But when you see the red smiley up above the RevLeft avatar, then you come and let me know. :lol:

[encephalon]

There is no personality cult...

Bah! Obviously you've not been inducted into the church of redstar. I'm writing our holy book right this moment :P

We've all had many disagreements with him. While some admire him more than others, there's no cult around him. That said: if you cannot defend your own arguments, whether it be from redstar or anyone else, then I suggest not debating them in the first place; or, rather, changing your mind.

[encephalon]

Official statement about why redstar is not here:

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...entry1292111555 (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=52492&st=0&#entry1292111555)

[spanishinquisition]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 10:44 AM
Official statement about why redstar is not here:

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...entry1292111555 (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=52492&st=0&#entry1292111555)
Old News. I love how you banned one of your own for leaking this only to reveal it to all of us anyway a week later.

[bcbm]

It was leaked without Redstar's approval and in violation of the board rules.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by black banner black [email protected] 11 2006, 12:08 PM
It was leaked without Redstar's approval and in violation of the board rules.
Plus he wasn't banned for that, he was banned after CC democratically voted for it when he accumulated five warning points.

[bunk]

Originally posted by spanishinquisition+Jul 11 2006, 11:01 AM--> (spanishinquisition @ Jul 11 2006, 11:01 AM)
[email protected] 11 2006, 10:44 AM
Official statement about why redstar is not here:

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...entry1292111555 (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=52492&st=0&#entry1292111555)
Old News. I love how you banned one of your own for leaking this only to reveal it to all of us anyway a week later. [/b]
one of our own? Not really

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2006, 10:30 PM
But when you see the red smiley up above the RevLeft avatar, then you come and let me know. :lol:
can we? pleeeaaase :wub:

[Janus]

Bah! Obviously you've not been inducted into the church of redstar.
Damn. I knew it. He is that Catholic archbishop. :lol:

[Capitalist Lawyer]

We're not evading the question, it's just that it's none of your business.

Oh gimme a break. They're not asking for his address and social security number. They're just asking where he is, because he seems to be one of the few intelligent debaters on this forum; even though he overestimates the power organized religion has in contemporary society.

If he were to ditch is "anti-religious fundamentalism", he would be an ok person.

If you don't believe in god, that's fine...but you can't deny the postive impact it CAN have on people's lives. Yeah, there are authoritarian religious zealots who can be a tad annoying; but it can also save some kid from joining a bad group of people and wasting his life with drugs and run-ins with the police.

I certainly know a few who were able to escape a bad crowd of people due to their involvement in a church and establishing true friendships with the people in it.

[Fidel Follower]

but there has been some damage to the left side of his body.

WHY, why? For fucksake, why couldn't it have been the right, im sure thats what he would want! Even his own body is against left (aka the goodside!)

Arrg i miss him, too! Hope you get well soon comrade!

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 11 2006, 02:04 PM
but it can also save some kid from joining a bad group of people and wasting his life with drugs and run-ins with the police.

I certainly know a few who were able to escape a bad crowd of people due to their involvement in a church and establishing true friendships with the people in it.
Lets see, drugs or church? :lol:

Run-ins with the police? Well going to church isn't going to stop this since police target poor people in general, whether your a godsucker or not.

[The Resistor]

Where is ummmproffesional ?

[Janus]

He was banned.

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 07:24 PM
He was banned.
wtf for?

[Capitalist Lawyer]

Lets see, drugs or church? laugh.

Then explain all of the drug rehab centers? Are they there merely for decoration?

Let's see, drugs or church to a group of young, poor kids? You can also give them little league baseball if you want along with a capitalist indoctrination center (what you call a "school").

So how about this? Involvement in a community (see above) or drugs?


Run-ins with the police? Well going to church isn't going to stop this since police target poor people in general, whether your a godsucker or not.

Then don't break the law! Duhhhhhh.....

The police also save poor people from the thugs that you seem to glorify.

[Janus]

The police also save poor people from the thugs that you seem to glorify.
What thugs do we glorify? The police usually beat down on poor people because they are deemed to be more likely to committ crimes.


wtf for?
Homophobia.

[Capitalist Lawyer]

What thugs do we glorify? The police usually beat down on poor people because they are deemed to be more likely to committ crimes.

If they're getting beaten by the police, then they are breaking the law. If you don't want to get harassed, then don't break the law. Duh.

And while they are beating down that poor law breaker, they are inadvertantly saving other POOR people's lives.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 12 2006, 01:03 PM
And while they are beating down that poor law breaker, they are inadvertantly saving other POOR people's lives.
or protecting the establishment from groups which could influence the way people's political views...

[theraven]

Originally posted by Kevis+Jul 12 2006, 02:41 PM--> (Kevis @ Jul 12 2006, 02:41 PM)
Capitalist [email protected] 12 2006, 01:03 PM
And while they are beating down that poor law breaker, they are inadvertantly saving other POOR people's lives.
or protecting the establishment from groups which could influence the way people's political views... [/b]
because the crips are defiently influicng peoples views...

[Wanted Man]

He asks everyone on this board, if you are a smoker, to consider stopping.
Neo-puritan!

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 02:54 PM
because the crips are defiently influicng peoples views...
I was thinking more along the lines of the BPP or the IWW to use some examples from modern history...

groups like the crips originate out of the harsh conditions created for many due to capitalism... the pigs are pretty ineffective at clamping down on gang violence anywho; in some cases the opposite, the other day i read an article about how some pigs were assisting a neo-nazi gang in prison beat up inmates and deal drugs...

[theraven]

Originally posted by Kevis+Jul 12 2006, 04:42 PM--> (Kevis @ Jul 12 2006, 04:42 PM)
[email protected] 12 2006, 02:54 PM
because the crips are defiently influicng peoples views...
I was thinking more along the lines of the BPP or the IWW to use some examples from modern history...

groups like the crips originate out of the harsh conditions created for many due to capitalism... the pigs are pretty ineffective at clamping down on gang violence anywho; in some cases the opposite, the other day i read an article about how some pigs were assisting a neo-nazi gang in prison beat up inmates and deal drugs... [/b]
oh so you mean the police aren't fans of groups advocating rebellion or race war? well duh...

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Read it again... the pigs have systematically destroyed revolutionary groups, yet the other week a group of pigs were caught for assisting white supremist inmates who were already in jail in attacking non white prisoners and smuggling drugs into the jail for these Nazi's...

[Sabocat]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 12 2006, 09:03 AM

What thugs do we glorify? The police usually beat down on poor people because they are deemed to be more likely to committ crimes.

If they're getting beaten by the police, then they are breaking the law. If you don't want to get harassed, then don't break the law. Duh.

And while they are beating down that poor law breaker, they are inadvertantly saving other POOR people's lives.
Hey asshole, how bad a beating did they give Koslowski or Lay after they had stolen billions?

Some poor fuck steals a 100 dollar pair of sneakers and he's likely to be tasered, beaten or possibly worse.

What did Amado Dialo do that warranted being shot some 40 odd times? You think the pigs would have shot a rich white guy reaching for his wallet?

[which doctor]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 12 2006, 08:03 AM

What thugs do we glorify? The police usually beat down on poor people because they are deemed to be more likely to committ crimes.

If they're getting beaten by the police, then they are breaking the law. If you don't want to get harassed, then don't break the law. Duh.
I've been harassed by the police without breaking the law, and this was when I was only about 12 years old. Think, the pigs harassing children who haven't even broken the law.

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 10:07 PM
Read it again... the pigs have systematically destroyed revolutionary groups, yet the other week a group of pigs were caught for assisting white supremist inmates who were already in jail in attacking non white prisoners and smuggling drugs into the jail for these Nazi's...
1) what do barnyard animals have to do wth anything?

2) and yes as I said the cops are not found of groups advocating destruction of society

[theraven]

Hey asshole, how bad a beating did they give Koslowski or Lay after they had stolen billions?


I am sure if they had caught them in the act plenty of cops would have.


Some poor fuck steals a 100 dollar pair of sneakers and he's likely to be tasered, beaten or possibly worse.

to stop them from running...


What did Amado Dialo do that warranted being shot some 40 odd times? You think the pigs would have shot a rich white guy reaching for his wallet?

bout as many times as rich white guys shoot cops....

[Dean]

Well let's hope that RedStar has a full recovery. My uncle has breathing problems due to smoking which have nearly killed him before, and he still hasn't stopped. Smoking is a terrible plague.

[violencia.Proletariat]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 08:34 PM

2) and yes as I said the cops are not found of groups advocating destruction of society
What revolutionary group destroyed by the police was advocating primitvism? We're all for society here.

[theraven]

Originally posted by violencia.Proletariat+Jul 13 2006, 03:20 AM--> (violencia.Proletariat @ Jul 13 2006, 03:20 AM)
[email protected] 12 2006, 08:34 PM

2) and yes as I said the cops are not found of groups advocating destruction of society
What revolutionary group destroyed by the police was advocating primitvism? We're all for society here. [/b]
your for destiorying capitilsm, by whcih you undoutbedly mean the structure which holds our societ up and maintains order. naturally the police are going to be less then inclined to ignore groups like that.

[Janus]

your for destiorying capitilsm, by whcih you undoutbedly mean the structure which holds our societ up and maintains order.
Smashing capitalism is certainly not the same thing as destroying technology.


naturally the police are going to be less then inclined to ignore groups like that.
The feds would be more involved in this but you're right, they don't ignore it.

[Hampton]

Originally posted by theraven+Jul 12 2006, 03:47 PM--> (theraven @ Jul 12 2006, 03:47 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 04:42 PM

[email protected] 12 2006, 02:54 PM
because the crips are defiently influicng peoples views...
I was thinking more along the lines of the BPP or the IWW to use some examples from modern history...

groups like the crips originate out of the harsh conditions created for many due to capitalism... the pigs are pretty ineffective at clamping down on gang violence anywho; in some cases the opposite, the other day i read an article about how some pigs were assisting a neo-nazi gang in prison beat up inmates and deal drugs...
oh so you mean the police aren't fans of groups advocating rebellion or race war? well duh... [/b]
Who is advocating a race war?

[theraven]

Smashing capitalism is certainly not the same thing as destroying technology.

no but for those who advocate a violent revolution they are.


Who is advocating a race war?

neo nazis, radical black panthers...those kinda folks.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

these guys are (http://www.adl.org/learn/extremism_in_the_news/White_Supremacy/nazi_low_riders_guard_21706.htm?LEARN_Cat=Extremis m&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_the_News)

while obviously not representative of the whole police force, I was just showing the contrast with how the pigs beat down on the guys fighting for a better society yet prop up this racist bullshit...

[Capitalist Lawyer]

Former Prison Guard Convicted of Aiding Nazi Low Riders

Oh? He was convicted by fellow law enforcement officials.

How dare those cops reinforce oppression on this prison guard.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

after getting away with it for over 20 years

man, those guys are on the ball

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2006, 03:49 PM
after getting away with it for over 20 years

man, those guys are on the ball
he was in a position fo authority...they finailly discovered it so they put him away.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

I don't think Hoover was ever locked up, even though half the tactics he employed were illegal...

so I guess it's only a matter of time before Bush is locked up...

[Capitalist Lawyer]

after getting away with it for over 20 years

But what about all of the crimes that have been solved and the perpetrators convicted in a short amount of time? When are you going to post links to stories about that?


I don't think Hoover was ever locked up, even though half the tactics he employed were illegal...

Anecdotal evidence.

[Janus]

no but for those who advocate a violent revolution they are.
We may loose out on progress during that time period but progress will certainly not be halted forever and technology totally destroyed.