Has anyone prepared for a revolution? - Or am i the only one

[commieboy]

as i keep reading these posts it seems like im the only one here who seems to think about prepration before saying i'll fight for cuba. How many of you have equpment ready, or a gun, or any tool for defense? do any of you read about Guerrilla warfare, or basic Military manuevers? Because since we're young, isnt now the best time to be preprating, HOW MANY OF YOU COULD GO AND FIGHT A REVOLUTION IN AN HOURS NOTICE? If we're not prepared how do you expect revolutions to work? How many of you HAVE ACTUALLY PREPARED?? I can personally say that right now i could go to any country in the world, EVEN RUSSIA's Siberia, and fight. who else is ready, or will be?

[ComradeJunichi]

I haven't prepared for a revolution before, I doubt I'd ever get called out or my neighborhood would have one. I doubt I'd go to Cuba to fight, or anywhere else.

I'll make sure to send you notice if I see or hear any revolutions going on.

[redstar2000]

Some practical matters you should take into consideration, commieboy.

If there is a protracted armed insurrection somewhere in the world today, can you speak the language of the insurgents? You're not much help if they can't even talk to you.

Are the weapons you have trained with the ones that the insurgents actually use?

Do you understand the real politics of the insurgency? If you don't, you will be bewildered and possibly even outraged by the objectives and tactics of the rebels.

Do the rebels have any particular reason to trust you? After all, any CIA agent can show up and say "hey, I wanna join da revolution". Can you convincingly demonstrate your sincerity and committment?

I have constantly urged young communists and those who want to become communists who live in the U.S. to emigrate to some other developed capitalist country where they can accomplish something useful.

That means learn the language fluently, become a citizen, immerse yourself in the revolutionary politics of your chosen country...in a word, be serious.

Romantic fantasies about guerilla warfare are not very useful at this point...when communist revolution comes to the advanced capitalist countries, there is little likelihood that much in the way of armed struggle will take place.

I agree with the general tone of your post, commieboy. It is better to be prepared than not; it is better to have a plan than not have one. But we should try to prepare for real possibilities, not imaginary ones. We should plan for real contingencies, not simply try to replay old scenarios.

:cool:

[CubanFox]

It's a shame all the Anglophone nations are all so stable. Damn you, successful British empire! Why can't you just breed poverty like other empires?

[CubanFox]

On a more serious note, there are some seriously messed up Anglophone countries. Sierra Leone, for example...however, the rebels are only interested in diamonds rather than any real political goal.

[Reuben]

look its the boy who rebels by vandalising PUBLIC property lecturings on our preparedness for revolution. Well i suppose its a deent excuse to macho statements like 'could go to any country ad fight'. Jus so yo know Marxism wasnt invented to give credibility to your adolescent idiocy.

[commieboy]

Ok, you want to discuss my readiness? MY rifle, a Mosin Nagant 91/30 has been used for almost a hundred years and is even being used in Iraq. I know every crevas of that rifle, and its right out of Russia, so if i go to Cuba someone is bound to understand it's workings. I speak English, Frech, Maltese, and a little arabic is that good enough? i know political standpoints, ethnic groups, And ruben for your sake, i'll change my name ok? it was the first one i could think of!! I'm not just an adolecent idiot, i am intelligent, and i thought here i could find intellectual peers. so, i am ready, i even have a specified route if i am to go to cuba, i know how i would conceal my rifle, OK I HELPED STEAL A SIGN FROM A PUBLIC SCHOOL!!! BIG DEAL, WE RETURNED IT!! so all im saying is, that im not just a dumbass kid on a computer, i have the equipment, and if i go to Cuba, i will have to learn Spanish, but thats besides the point. I Am PREPARED!!!

[ComradeJunichi]

Okay, I've heard of a revolution going down in Zimbabwe. Get your ass down there right this second, you can learn the language on the airplane. GO!!!

I agree with Reuben. You seem to be very anxious and eager, do you understand your politics/economics/guerrilla warfare/etc.? However you do sound immature and a bit hastey. Do you really think it'll be that easy to do what you're thinking of doing? Revolution is not a piece of cake. Well, if Cuba ever goes into a war, good luck. I'll be studying at home.

[Reuben]

Thankyou Junichi.

What i would say to commieboy is that you should stop fantasizing about the struggles you want to fight and deal withthe eality on the ground, and recognise that the main way to advance socialism is currently through education and propagation.

[Reuben]

and another thing, the best way to suppor the cuban revolution is not to wonder off to cuba with your rifle but to start taking on the bourgoiesie in your own country.

BTW it was so interesting hearing about your osin Nagant 91/30.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Maybe you're being a bit harsh with commiboy, comrades.

Commieboy, it's excellent that you understand and that you're currently studying guerrilla warfare, that's all important, I think. It's great that you also know your weapon, but what I think our comrades, Reuben & Junichi are trying to get at, is that there is more than this. The most important thing when fighting a guerrilla, I believe, is to know what you are fighting for. Not every guerrilla will be for the exact same direct cause. Some rebellions may even be for a cause which you don't particularly agree with. You must understand the situation and the cause. Like redstar said, the most effective thing you can do for the cause is to waith untill you're outta college, or whatever education you seek, then move to some country that may actually see a rebellion in the near future.

[Fiskebat]

Well, I would not just go to any nation and help the rebels there, if I should fight for something I would have to be really convinced and belive in that 110%!

And as someone said live with the people there for sometime to really understand their situation.

I really dont feel like wasting my life just for some armed conflict that perhaps is idiotic!

Though i respect that commieboy is prepared to take the step!

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

It's a good question.

Suppose the revolution breaks out in your neighbourhood and governmental troops are sent, what will you do then?

Consider it eventually will break out somewhere, how are you so sure that it won't be your own backyard.

It could break out in the Sahara, in N Korea, US, pretty much everywhere were there is any authority.

And like Redstar said, how can you prepare well. I don't think buying a rifle, a survival packet and reading some books is enough preparation.

Like one of the dudes in "Bowling for Columbine" said, "The pen is mightier then the sword, but keep the sword ready incase the pen fails."

Declare me crazy, but I don't think that talking and discussing will help much if a "patriot" is taking you under fire for god and country.
The sword would come in handy then.



(Edited by CCCP at 12:41 am on May 18, 2003)

[CubanFox]

Quote: from ComradeJunichi on 3:49 pm on May 17, 2003
Okay, I've heard of a revolution going down in Zimbabwe. Get your ass down there right this second, you can learn the language on the airplane. GO!!!


He already speaks English ;)

[Sandanista]

the revolution doesnt come from picking up a gun, its about the workers taking control of their work places, not some military dictator spoutin top down socialism, or as us proper revolutionaries call it, STATE CAPITALISM!!!

U militants are all the same with ur romantic fantasies....pish

[CubanFox]

You can still be a revolutionary sans a rifle and the urge to kill. You could start a newspaper in the revolutionary country. Give it a cool name like THE FLAMES OF FREEDOM and print the truth. You don't need the latest technology. Che used a 1903 vintage mimeograph for his newspaper in Cuba! You could probably acquire and oldish print machine fairly cheaply in the first world.

http://www.sit.wisc.edu/~sandness/mimeo.gif

[commieboy]

ok, im a little sorry for leaving out several details so i dont sound like a total idiot. I wont just go to a foreign country the moment i hear about a revolution. I wont get on a rooftop and shoot a political officer, AND I WILL NOT DEFEND SOMTHING THAT I DO NOT FEEL STRONGLY FOR!! lets look back at a previous thread, Would you fight for Cuba if Bush invaded? I said yes, but not without some serious thinking, im not just a kid with his daddy's old uniform from Nam and say im a militant. If i say i will fight for a country in need, get ready to see my corpse on CNN, because i will fight. i will throw away my whole life for somthing i believe in. while i may be the one who goes and fights, you others can be the ones who prints flyers and propaganda. you dont see me criticizing you, there are different people, you guys can hold onto your dreams of college, its not like im a innercity kid living in poverty either, i have the money to go to college, but its my life and i think i should be able to dicide in which direction i want it to go. so i dont like it when people criticise my actions and words, when THEY ARE MY WORDS, MY ACTIONS!! I WILL DEAL WITH THE REPRERCUSIONS!! so if it ever comes to a revolution, there will be two people fighting it, in two differnt postions, people like you who print flyers to keep support for my kind of people who are fighting. Its not only the soldiers who fight the wars, there are two people, and most of seem to be the ones who prefer to print rather than fight. but i cannot say anyting about it, i think that it needs these two people to keep a struggle ongoing.

[Urban Rubble]

He sure told you guys.

[Dirty Commie]

Quote: from commieboy on 9:45 pm on May 17, 2003
ok, im a little sorry for leaving out several details so i dont sound like a total idiot. I wont just go to a foreign country the moment i hear about a revolution. I wont get on a rooftop and shoot a political officer, AND I WILL NOT DEFEND SOMTHING THAT I DO NOT FEEL STRONGLY FOR!! lets look back at a previous thread, Would you fight for Cuba if Bush invaded? I said yes, but not without some serious thinking, im not just a kid with his daddy's old uniform from Nam and say im a militant. If i say i will fight for a country in need, get ready to see my corpse on CNN, because i will fight. i will throw away my whole life for somthing i believe in. while i may be the one who goes and fights, you others can be the ones who prints flyers and propaganda. you dont see me criticizing you, there are different people, you guys can hold onto your dreams of college, its not like im a innercity kid living in poverty either, i have the money to go to college, but its my life and i think i should be able to dicide in which direction i want it to go. so i dont like it when people criticise my actions and words, when THEY ARE MY WORDS, MY ACTIONS!! I WILL DEAL WITH THE REPRERCUSIONS!! so if it ever comes to a revolution, there will be two people fighting it, in two differnt postions, people like you who print flyers to keep support for my kind of people who are fighting. Its not only the soldiers who fight the wars, there are two people, and most of seem to be the ones who prefer to print rather than fight. but i cannot say anyting about it, i think that it needs these two people to keep a struggle ongoing.


Well said, I now think you are serious, I'd join you.

[ComradeJunichi]

@commieboy: Fight for something you believe in, huh? What do you believe in? We do not choose to print propaganda, but to study and find what we believe in. Just how much about communism, and Cuban Socialism, do you even know? True, it's your decision but if your decision is going to be that then...well, okay I'll stop the flaming.

@Dirty Commie: Were you joking?

[Dirty Commie]

About joining him, no, I wasn't serious, but he had a good point.

[Reuben]

If i say i will fight for a country in need, get ready to see my corpse on CNN, because i will fight. i will throw away my whole life for somthing i believe in. while i may be the one who goes and fights, you others can be the ones who prints flyers and propaganda. you dont see me criticizing you, there are different people, you guys can hold onto your dreams of college, its not like im a innercity kid living

Really mate, stop herioising yourself in such emmotive terms. Its a form of masturbation.

Do you really believe that the primary reason why at the moment most of th socialists on this thread are oriented is because we want to go to college. No it is because we have our feet on the ground and are analysing (in the absence of adolescent hormones) which paths would be of the greatest utility to the socialist movement not which is most 'heroic'. In other words it is not that we are different types of people. We would be ready to fight however we recognise that other skills are currently more significant to the progression of socialism. In other words we are analysing in rational not emmotive of macho trms what skills are currently most important to learn and what actions would be best. I would be more than willing to risk my life working for the international solidarity movement in palestine peaceflly resisting the occupation and supporting palestinians, and if, as i believe, that would be more effectual than taking a gun to an israel soldier and having my head blown off (with some legitimacy due to the fact i was armed) i would choose the former rahter than the latter, not out of cowardice but ou of rational humanity.

[apathy maybe]

The way the world is going it would probably be better to prepare for natural disasters. If you live near the sea sell your land and move now before the value plumets.
However, I think each of you have said something worth noting.
ComradeJunichi a printing press is a great way to prepare the populace for the revulution, but when/if it comes we do need also people with guns. I think that a lot of the people on this board are just talking, sitting relatively comfortably behind your computers, if commieboy is willing to learn then, go and apply his knowledge I say more power to him. Me I am working with in the system, I have said that I am against violent revultion and still am. I think that the political process is the way to go, after all it worked in Chile (even if only for a few weeks).

[dopediana]

commieboy and dirty commie

i appreciate your enthusiasm. but hear me on this. you both are in middle school. you dream of greatness, of bringing justice to all the people on the earth. and how? by shooting all the bad guys. it doesn't work like that. fighting never really resolved anything. it's unifying behind a common cause that resolves something. that's not to say fighting won't be involved but ...... and i don't know where i'm taking this but i'll figure that out later.

and listen. you claim you're ready to take up arms to fight for what you believe in. you already know every "crevas" (as opposed to "crevice" ) of your mosin nagant 91/30. but could you use it on another human? at your age you ought to be just coming out of that middle school illusion that you can take on the world. hopefully your freshman year in high school will be a humbling experience for you. but think, you've probably just barely had your first kiss. you've toked up on weed a few times, maybe. you're past tittering when you see a naked mannequin in a store window. and who knows, maybe you've even touched a real boob. you think you're ready to be a man. much is the same with war. you play your nintendo 64. you go to the arcade and let the machines swallow up your tokens. you play paintball. feels great to shoot something at someone, doesn't it? why not take it to the next step?

all this considered, war is not a game. much less being on a side that is almost destined to be the losing side considering the competition you're up against. are you possible prepared to face death? not only yours, but seeing your comrades falling all around you. not just dying, but having gangrene claim their legs and arms. or being blasted into oblivion by explosives. and are you prepared to do the same thing to your enemy?

you can consider all the evil their regime has done to others around the world. but when the goal is to reciprocate the damage they've done back onto themselves, are you prepared?

are you really fucking prepared to kill someone? is that what it's all about? is your gun your only weapon? i pray to whatever god that may exist that it's not.

i pray to god that you would rather shit your pants with the whole fucking world watching than to kill someone in the middle of a dark jungle somewhere with noone to see and no record of that man to which he could be accounted for. to kill someone is the ultimate insult to the gift of life that has been bestowed to you. if you think you're bringing justice to someone who has killed someone already, you're not. you're just soiling your own hands. murder is the absolute LAST measure anyone should take.

don't disappoint me, boys.

(Edited by the amaryllis at 12:43 am on May 19, 2003)

[CubanFox]

Sticks and stones will break their bones...
But words will live on to hurt them.


The pen is mighter than the sword.

[Dhul Fiqar]

One thing I'd like to point out, and even though it may sound harsh I'm not trying to flame anybody. I just think we could deal with a little reality check at this point ;)

You stole a sign from your school. You then told people about it, and suspected someone may have overheard you saying it. This obviously caused you a great deal of stress, you were, to put it frankly: scared.

Now imagine you're in the jungle with no food or clean water, your only friend in the movement has his guts hanging out screaming at you to just kill him now, napalm is being dropped a hundred meters away, Apaches and F15's are dropping MOABS and god knows what on the artillery and soldiers that were supposed to support you. You are holding a 100 year old bolt action rifle.

How do you think you will feel in such a situation, honestly? I'm not saying it's not possible you could hack it, but please consider the reality of what you are saying and compare it with the reality you have experienced. If you were rattled by the possibility of detention, I'd wager you need a few more years before you can hope to stay level-headed around artillery strikes.

I've actually been in a combat zone, although obviously not in the thick of it, shots were being fired over my head at people on a nearby hill. I can tell you that when the shots start flying and people start running for cover, you're transported to a totally different world where everything moves slowly and decisions are incredibly hard to make.
That being said, I admire your conviction and willingness to sacrifice your own well-being for other people. If only more people had such ambitions...

Personally, there are only a couple of scenarios I can invisage that would drive me to actually take up arms and join the fight. One of them would be a second 'Al-Nakba', i.e. if Israel ever tries to resume mass deportation and actually take apart Palestine, or possibly if America ever uses nuclear weapons or carpet bombing of cities again, I'm talking mass murder on a huge scale.

Then I would probably give myself just under a week to get my shit together and prepare to die.

--- G.

[NeedForRevolution]

I have never been to a real fight i did not even finish school yet.........
i know i am not ready to fight thats why i will join the german army i will train to fight.....
its fine to have the Sake to fight but you need training to do it.........
after my training i can tell you if i still want to fight and than i am usefull..........

[scott thesocialist]

all this talk of fighting in a revolution commieboy get real 'if you hear of a revolution let me know and i'll be there' don't you read there are revolutions across the world islamic would you fight for them or just socialist like cuba you talk about the fighting has stopped apart from the anti-castro backed by the cia cause jfk sighed a agreement never to invade cube if they did russia what cause a stir and the truth about the cold war would come out which is exactly what i jsut say and russia took thier weapons out of cuba and the us agreed to remove their weapons fro turkey a revolution is more than just shooting the bad guys and then everybody cheers you as you ride down town on a tank. commiebot you have passion and desire but not the brains educate yourself more and think about what you believe in and then you can decide where to go and whta cause to fight for maybe in palestine? cantral america? central asia? where theres oil there is war and the u.s.a

[Dhul Fiqar]

Do you realize that entire post was just one sentance? Kind of makes it hard to follow ;)

[scott thesocialist]

sorry i'm not with it this morning. had a bit of a long weekend. hope you still got what i was trying to say.
and commieboy watch what you say man the cia will be round at your door, to fucking arrest you!

[CubanFox]

I may be rambling on about the power of the pen over the sword, but I'd rather be arrested for printing the truth rather than shooting at government soldiers.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Quote: from scott thesocialist on 6:48 pm on May 19, 2003
sorry i'm not with it this morning. had a bit of a long weekend. hope you still got what i was trying to say.


Hehe, I know that feeling alright, comrade ;)

Don't worry, I understood your point :)

[commieboy]

let me apologize again, and hopefully for the last time. I'm sorry ok!?!?! i type without thinking most of the time, i just watched that movie enemy at the gates and it got me in that fighting mood. I AM AN ASSHOLE!! and i plan to stay here for a while, so im sorry, if some of you guys could start to remind me that im starting to sound like a dumbass it would be great. So i would like to rephrase what i wanted to say many posts ago. "I have equipment for a revolution, i am more prone to fighting in combat than back in an office. I was afraid when i stole that sign, but that was a differnt fear, the fear that a suspension for theft may not get me into college. I dont know if i could coupe well with people dying alongside me, but can most of you know if you could stand it? We never know what we are capible off until we try. I talk way too much about stuff half the time i dont know what im talking about. but sometimes i do, and i want to go back to the post weather i would fight for Cuba, i said yes, i still say yes. its not like just cause theres a revolution i will fight, im not looking for a fight, im simply preparing for what maybe inevetable with the jackasses we've got in the White house. So go ahead, call me nieve, stupid, unreal, immature, most are right, but still, i would fight for what i believe in and the only way to know if i could make it is to try, so there, im done with my defense. (Please dont make fun of my spelling, i type fast and dont pay attention)

[dopediana]

as for enemy at the gates, that's a double whammy of hot guys, but that's not exactly the point.

i forgive you. and i know exactly how it feels to get really riled up and hot-blooded and like you can take on the world. it's how i feel when i'm protesting. the best high ever.

but i've never experienced killing. and that's the greatest high of all time, or so i was told by a marine at a party who was an arrogant shit and asked me for my number. "7" said i and walked away. and that wasn't the point either.

point: we understand and appreciate your intensity. it's what revolution is made of. just be prudent, ok? we're trying to give you guidance and keep you in your respectful place. if anything at all, we care and we're worried about you. a few more years and life experience will serve you well.

[Dirty Commie]

Quote: from the amaryllis on 7:41 pm on May 18, 2003
commieboy and dirty commie

i appreciate your enthusiasm. but hear me on this. you both are in middle school. you dream of greatness, of bringing justice to all the people on the earth. and how? by shooting all the bad guys. it doesn't work like that. fighting never really resolved anything. it's unifying behind a common cause that resolves something. that's not to say fighting won't be involved but ...... and i don't know where i'm taking this but i'll figure that out later.

and listen. you claim you're ready to take up arms to fight for what you believe in. you already know every "crevas" (as opposed to "crevice" ) of your mosin nagant 91/30. but could you use it on another human? at your age you ought to be just coming out of that middle school illusion that you can take on the world. hopefully your freshman year in high school will be a humbling experience for you. but think, you've probably just barely had your first kiss. you've toked up on weed a few times, maybe. you're past tittering when you see a naked mannequin in a store window. and who knows, maybe you've even touched a real boob. you think you're ready to be a man. much is the same with war. you play your nintendo 64. you go to the arcade and let the machines swallow up your tokens. you play paintball. feels great to shoot something at someone, doesn't it? why not take it to the next step?

all this considered, war is not a game. much less being on a side that is almost destined to be the losing side considering the competition you're up against. are you possible prepared to face death? not only yours, but seeing your comrades falling all around you. not just dying, but having gangrene claim their legs and arms. or being blasted into oblivion by explosives. and are you prepared to do the same thing to your enemy?

you can consider all the evil their regime has done to others around the world. but when the goal is to reciprocate the damage they've done back onto themselves, are you prepared?

are you really fucking prepared to kill someone? is that what it's all about? is your gun your only weapon? i pray to whatever god that may exist that it's not.

i pray to god that you would rather shit your pants with the whole fucking world watching than to kill someone in the middle of a dark jungle somewhere with noone to see and no record of that man to which he could be accounted for. to kill someone is the ultimate insult to the gift of life that has been bestowed to you. if you think you're bringing justice to someone who has killed someone already, you're not. you're just soiling your own hands. murder is the absolute LAST measure anyone should take.

don't disappoint me, boys.

(Edited by the amaryllis at 12:43 am on May 19, 2003)


NO, that is not what I meant. I agree, murder is the last possible solution, I have no dillisions of grandeur, I know that in my lifetime no radical change the this system, will occur, my priorities for Marxism are to educate the ignorant, not fight the system. I won't join ANY violent situation without being forced into it, I am not a pacifist, but think that violence is the last humanly possible answer.

And no, I HATE video games, paintballing is dumb, and the only person I have ever came close to killing is my brother, but that is a different subject.

Hope you got what I mean.

[lacha]

Hey , hold up on the arguing guys. We are all on the same side. And you are all right. There is a time and a place for all manners of Revolution and we should all try to prepare ourselves as best we can for whatever situation we find ourselves in. (Especially liked Redstar's comment about language barriers!)

I think that commieboy IS being realistic in a way that many of us are not. It is true that things seem to be heating up in the world and I have myself thought about what I will personally do if the US moves on Cuba. I am prepared to give my life to defend my friends and family on the island. But this is to DEFEND the Revolution... not advance it.

I think the rest of you are also right in pursuing a peaceful path to change. The only true Revolution is that which occurrs in the hearts and minds of the people. The Cuban Revolution has not endured because of a war that happened 44 years ago. It has endured because the people have been educated and they have changed their way of thinking and living.

Equally, the Revolution will not be obliterated by war. If the US were to conquer Cuba tomorrow, they could never extinguish the Revolutionary spirit of the people without a massive re-education campaign that would take years. So, fighting against an invasion would be, for me, an obligation. It is an emergency room measure to try to stop the bleeding and to keep the heart pumping. The real job would come after: defending and rebuilding the people's confidence and faith in the Revolution and supporting their resistence to assimilation.

On a global level it is naive of us to think that the cappies are just going to lay down their gold and walk away from it all because the masses are requesting a change. It is probable that a "shock" rebellion will be necessary to jump start a large scale Revolution.

Che believed it..... And the Communist Party of Bolivia did not... and Che died partly because of their lack of support.

To commieboy: I think that sometimes it is best not to wear your convictions on your sleeve. The saying in earthfirst! is that a REAL monkeywrencher would never put an earthfirst! bumpersticker on his car. It is best to keep a low profile. Even among Comrades. Especially these days when you never know who is reading your comuniques.

Hasta la Victoria Siempre
Fight together not amongst ourselves
El pueblo unido jamas sera vencido

[Dirty Commie]

Lacha, I know who reads it, the NSA, Department of Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, and ther carnivore program.

[CubanFox]

Quote: from the amaryllis on 2:11 am on May 20, 2003
whammy of hot guys


Even if I was gay I wouldn't go for those guys. There were some ugly bastards in that movie.

But, still, one of my all time fav movies. Very nice to see a Great Patriotic War (;)) film that wasn't from the American perspective.

<shameless self promotion> And as for the language barrier, see my thread Implementing Socialism for a discussion about, well, implementing socialism in a hypothetical environment in an Anglophone country. </shameless self promotion>

[ChiTown Lady]

Prepared for Revolution? In what way?

You mentioned in regard to Cuba. Well I suppose we could bring armaments there by way of a boat, but as you Must know we could never arm ourselves in entering Cuba by any conventional means since Armaments are NOT allowed on public means of passage such as international airline flights etc. I mean damn – I can’t even take my toenail clippers or finger nail file onto a plane in my purse. Helloooooo.

But I do have a very nice machete, a couple of carving knives and several steak knives in my arsenal – for whatever they are worth. ;)

If anyone tries to attack my personal dwelling or anyone within it, - they will be sliced to bits – I promise you that. :)

[Dhul Fiqar]

Quote: from Dirty Commie on 10:26 am on May 20, 2003
Lacha, I know who reads it, the NSA, Department of Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, and ther carnivore program.


A bit paranoid, are we? ;)

--- G.

[lacha]

commieboy;
I doubt those all those folks are bothering to read these posts. But I am sure there is an occasional monitor.

The point being that one doesn't advertise clandestine work.

[Dirty Commie]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 5:35 am on May 20, 2003

Quote: from Dirty Commie on 10:26 am on May 20, 2003
Lacha, I know who reads it, the NSA, Department of Homeland Security, FBI, CIA, and ther carnivore program.


A bit paranoid, are we? ;)

--- G.

I think it is safe to assume that one of theses organizations is monitoring us.

Then again, I am a conspiracy buff.
Buta am serious, the feds are likely monitoring this site, and if you protest, you probably will be monitored.

[commieboy]

isnt it kind of scary knowing that our own government doesnt trust us? its not like we're planning another september 11th, why do bother to do that? has anyone here ever been arrested for treason or somthing along the lines of that?

[Dirty Commie]

I got punched by a cop at a protest once.

[commieboy]

thats the thing, i respect cops for risking their life for us, but as soon as they get in that damn riot gear and see a mob of protesters, they think we're all damn terrorists, and think they're fucking god.

[Organic Revolution]

Quote: from commieboy on 3:02 am on May 24, 2003
thats the thing, i respect cops for risking their life for us. uhh cops.... us.... hmm... thy are just murderers in blue uniforms

[commieboy]

i've got to defend a few cops though, what about the ones who lose their lives for strangers? these guys are always vastly outnumbered, out gunned, and nobody likes them until they put a cap in the bankrobbers bodyarmored ass. but i was watching the news last night, and a cop in my town was arrested for stealing cocaine, crack cocaine, Marijuana and like everyother drug out there and he would sell it to homeless people, tape it and sell it online......these are the people who give the cops a bad name......but although its at a 50/50 for me i think that alot of cops do more good than bad

(Edited by commieboy at 3:02 pm on May 24, 2003)

[Vinny Rafarino]

Nice raquet! I sould have become a cop!

[Dyst]

Yes, guns are very interesting... Actually, no. They are designed to kill, it is nothing cool or good about it, and if you had one, the last thing you should do is brag about it. I think education of the children are more important than killing of old pigs. The children are the future, we may not live then, but if the future will be socialist or communist, thats what we want. Eh?

I made a really good point in a anti-capitalist post (in another site, http://www.txmafia.com) once, and two days after, it was gone. It might just be the administrator who deleted it though... Heh, seing he's not excactly a rich capitalist pig, I doubt it. Dont know what happend with the post.

We will see what happends with this post. Dun Dun... If your reading this, nothing happend. CIA I KNOW YOUR READING THIS! TAKE THIS, YOU FUCKS! IF YOUR DELETING THIS POST, EVERYONE WILL KNOW IT WAS YOU! MOHAHAHAHA!

That was supposed to be a joke. Damn, I got a crazy sense of humor.

(Edited by Keiza at 4:51 am on May 25, 2003)

[James]

"I got punched by a cop at a protest once."

Dito, and they stole my flag... the bastards...