Mosh Styles

[lawnmowergoWHUMMM]

I want to hear what everyone has to say about moshing, pit fighthing and all the good stuff. Please add your favorite stories of high-compression humanity and crowdsurfing. Talk about the differences between punk, hardcore, metal mosh pits, the right venues for the right moshing, whatever. Also any commentary on the "revolutionary/(anti-)political significance" of the said traditions.

I'm from New Jersey, and the best concerts I go to are generally in Philadelphia. In this area of the US, the mosh pits seem to be about truly losing it and seeing how much damage you can cause in the pit. At least, I've gotten away with it so far. It generally consists of swinging my fists alternately in randomized directions for maximum area coverage, and an occasional spinning jump kick is included for a heavy blow, and sometimes I like do really weird things like rolls but I've gotten trampled. Sometimes if someone is doing something obnoxious/stupid/goofy-looking/otherwise objectionable, I tap one dude on the shoulder and we barge in and ram him to the edge of the pit, where pit warriors chivalrously pull out and stand up and guard anyone who has fallen in moshdom.

So, yeah. Beating people senseless to raucous music. Woot.

[Ian]

Circle pits or you are shit.

Either that or a homemade madball flailing at teenage girls heads.

[Comrade J]

At Children of Bodom in London, there was a guy stood in the middle of a circle pit with arms high in the air, devil horn signs on both his hands, and people were flying into him and he was hardly moving. He was a big muscular guy, he must have taken some serious bruising at that gig.
The moshpits for the support band, Ektomorf, were amazing, they opened up at random, kind of like the tornadoes on The Day After Tomorrow, saw a few bleeding people after their set.

[Ian]

People should not listen, yet along mosh to, children of bodom

[C_Rasmussen]

Like 4 of my friends and I moshed to an emo band at the "Battle of the Bands" Comp. at the 4th of July fest. That was only to take the piss out of the fact that they're an emo band.

Otherwise I hate the idea of pits. Then again its a good reason for someone who's not involved in the pit to beat the fuck out of someone who runs into them for no reason.

[bezdomni]

Anti-flag makes pretty intense pits. Especially when there are at an actual punk venue.

Ska is fun to dance in a "pit" to...although it's really a bunch of people standing around and skanking more than an actual mosh pit. Regardless, I still have a good time at ska concerts.

[YSR]

Way agreed CPA. Way more fun than punk concerts. I think the feeling of unity is way fun at a ska show. I was at a Westbound Train show two days ago and it was a great feeling of unity in the "circle pit" of skankdom. Then Big D played, and that was pretty rad, too.

[Graham_Pogo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 06:22 AM
I want to hear what everyone has to say about moshing, pit fighthing and all the good stuff. Please add your favorite stories of high-compression humanity and crowdsurfing. Talk about the differences between punk, hardcore, metal mosh pits, the right venues for the right moshing, whatever. Also any commentary on the "revolutionary/(anti-)political significance" of the said traditions.

I'm from New Jersey, and the best concerts I go to are generally in Philadelphia. In this area of the US, the mosh pits seem to be about truly losing it and seeing how much damage you can cause in the pit. At least, I've gotten away with it so far. It generally consists of swinging my fists alternately in randomized directions for maximum area coverage, and an occasional spinning jump kick is included for a heavy blow, and sometimes I like do really weird things like rolls but I've gotten trampled. Sometimes if someone is doing something obnoxious/stupid/goofy-looking/otherwise objectionable, I tap one dude on the shoulder and we barge in and ram him to the edge of the pit, where pit warriors chivalrously pull out and stand up and guard anyone who has fallen in moshdom.

So, yeah. Beating people senseless to raucous music. Woot.
what shows in philly do you go to? Thats where I attend shows also.

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by Young Stupid [email protected] 6 2006, 03:14 AM
Way agreed CPA. Way more fun than punk concerts. I think the feeling of unity is way fun at a ska show. I was at a Westbound Train show two days ago and it was a great feeling of unity in the "circle pit" of skankdom. Then Big D played, and that was pretty rad, too.
I saw Catch 22 at warped tour a few days ago. It was pretty awesome.

I bought their new CD also. It's about Leon Trotsky! :D

[Commie Rat]

Metal is for fags. circle all the way.
bumper cars is crap. headbanging is for a bedroom or socially awkward moments.
pogo is for emos.

we roll like this.

[Ian]

Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 6 2006, 10:34 PM
Metal is for fags.
UH OH SPAGHETTI O

[h&s]

There's nothing like a massive mosh pit at a gig to get things going! I just love the pits that seem to take up half the floor at a club with at least 100 people in them - they are just so much fun! Though I don't like it when people start getting too violent - it kind of ruins it for me a bit if people start fighting people who don't want it.
Just normal straight-forward moshing running into people for an hour with a bit of headbanging in between is my favorite, but I do like a circle pit or too aswell. Last time I went to see Trivium they started a circle pit at the beginning of one of the songs, but told us not to start running round untill he said, so over the 30 seconds of intro he kept us waiting the pit grew from just being a few metres wide to being a massive oval the 3/4 of the width of the club as more and more people kept joing the wall! When that got going it was sick... :cool:
And when Dragon Force played last at Rock City between them and the support band Slayer's 'Raining Blood' came on the PA, and people started a circle pit to it! I've never seen that before...

[Comrade J]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 11:32 PM
People should not listen, yet along mosh to, children of bodom
It wasn't Children of Bodom, it was One Man Army & The Undead Quartet or Ektomorf I think.

Children of Bodom are amazing. :D Seeing them twice again in November.

[lawnmowergoWHUMMM]

Originally posted by Commie [email protected] 6 2006, 12:34 PM
Metal is for fags. circle all the way.
bumper cars is crap. headbanging is for a bedroom or socially awkward moments.
pogo is for emos.
Honestly I'm more into the so-called "hardcore dancing" but not if it's just dancing, it has to be AT each other.

However I warn you that metal and hardcore are crossing into each other very much, so you may have just "fagged" yourself.

To Graham Pogo, mainly at the Trocadero and Universalist Church. Seen As I Lay Dying, a Life Once Lost, A Well Thought Tragedy, Altrucide, Norma Jean, Sworn Enemy, prolly others. Not saying I liked all I've seen, they were just opening or whatever. As much as I love this scene I haven't gotten to do much of it. I hope to see Lamb of God and Unearth someday as well, those shows MUST be insane.

[Rockfan]

People in my city don't know how to mosh, so the experienced pitters (my band) give then a few lessons. I like just going ape shit in an open space with a few mates but due to my "structural imparedness" (being short) it's always good to end up in arm pits in a full on mosh.

[Zero]

Like a long time ago I was in a mosh of Rob Zombie, then Disturbed. Holy shit. I couldn't hardly walk.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Ian+Jul 6 2006, 07:04 AM--> (Ian @ Jul 6 2006, 07:04 AM)
Commie [email protected] 6 2006, 10:34 PM
Metal is for fags.
UH OH SPAGHETTI O [/b]
Yeah wait and see if Black Dagger comes into this topic........We know he'll throw a coniption fit if anyone else hasn't.

Anyway Commie Rat, how do you figure that metal is for "fags" as you so kindly put it? <_<

[Ian]

Metal is for nerds

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Ian[email protected] 6 2006, 11:30 PM
Metal is for nerds
Now how did you come to that conclusion?

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by C Ras
Yeah wait and see if Black Dagger comes into this topic........We know he&#39;ll throw a coniption fit if anyone else hasn&#39;t.

Yes because i&#39;m such an over-sensitive faggot, especially when it comes to homophobia :rolleyes:

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Black Dagger+Jul 7 2006, 12:36 AM--> (Black Dagger @ Jul 7 2006, 12:36 AM)
C Ras
Yeah wait and see if Black Dagger comes into this topic........We know he&#39;ll throw a coniption fit if anyone else hasn&#39;t.

Yes because i&#39;m such an over-sensitive faggot, especially when it comes to homophobia :rolleyes: [/b]
...

Eh I&#39;m just basing it off other posts I&#39;ve seen from you when someone slips up. You go into complete rage mode (k so I&#39;m exaggerating a bit but you know what I mean) over a simple miff up.

[Ian]

Originally posted by Black Dagger+Jul 7 2006, 04:36 PM--> (Black Dagger @ Jul 7 2006, 04:36 PM)
C Ras
Yeah wait and see if Black Dagger comes into this topic........We know he&#39;ll throw a coniption fit if anyone else hasn&#39;t.

Yes because i&#39;m such an over-sensitive faggot, especially when it comes to homophobia :rolleyes: [/b]
HE ADMITTED IT.


Not cool to single out one dude as too sensitive when 99% of the board feel the exact same way and he had not even posted in the thread.

[Gunman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 05:30 AM
Metal is for nerds
I just love your one phrase replies&#33;

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Ian+Jul 7 2006, 07:55 AM--> (Ian @ Jul 7 2006, 07:55 AM)
Originally posted by Black [email protected] 7 2006, 04:36 PM

C Ras
Yeah wait and see if Black Dagger comes into this topic........We know he&#39;ll throw a coniption fit if anyone else hasn&#39;t.

Yes because i&#39;m such an over-sensitive faggot, especially when it comes to homophobia :rolleyes:
HE ADMITTED IT.


Not cool to single out one dude as too sensitive when 99% of the board feel the exact same way and he had not even posted in the thread. [/b]
Oh right I understand what you&#39;re saying but have you seen how he goes off about it in other threads whereas if others see it they&#39;re a bit more subtle in their response?

[Black Dagger]

Perhaps because other people on the board are heterosexual? Or some are more tolernant of homophobia? I don&#39;t know - but the board doesnt tolerate homophobia, so i dont really see your point - if i see someone say stupid prejudiced shit, i&#39;ll call them on it, so what?

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Black [email protected] 7 2006, 10:29 AM
Perhaps because other people on the board are heterosexual? Or some are more tolernant of homophobia? I don&#39;t know - but the board doesnt tolerate homophobia, so i dont really see your point - if i see someone say stupid prejudiced shit, i&#39;ll call them on it, so what?
Sexual orientation has nothing to do with this, Black. The admin TAT is gay I believe and even though he comes down on it when need be he&#39;s nowhere near as complaining about it as you are.

More tolerant of homophobia? Is that just because we dont turn over each topic where someone slips up and says the word "fag" or "this is gay"? Is it because even though we disagree with it we&#39;re not willing to turn it into a massive CSPAN debate? Maybe we realize people make mistakes and thats good if the person in question gets corrected but shouldn&#39;t be made an example like you like to do.

[An archist]

A good mosh is like anarchy: everyone is jumping around their own way, no one is in control and of course people collide, but when you hit the ground, people will allways be there to help you get back up.

[We&#39;reTheFirstToDie]

I went to a Reel Big Fish/Streetlight Manifesto concert a few days ago, and I was quite dissapointed when most of the crowd was basically running into each other like idiots. Circle skank pits are definitly the only way to dance.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by C Ras+--> ( C Ras)Sexual orientation has nothing to do with this, Black.[/b]

Yup coz white people are the best when it comes to things like anti-black racism, men when it comes to sexism etc. Not being a member of the group that is subject to a prejudice does have a practical effect on how you understand and &#39;feel&#39; prejudice towards that group, that&#39;s straight logic - you can never be as intune with prejudice that targets a group that you are not a part, least of all more intune than someone who experiences that prejudice themselves.

Sure you can &#39;empathise&#39;, but there&#39;s still a good chance that you&#39;ll fall into making stupid assumptions or saying stupid shit, sexist, racist and homophobic attitudes and assumptions are still very rife on the &#39;left&#39; - despite the fact that these are things that we reject.


Originally posted by C Ras+--> (C Ras)
The admin TAT is gay I believe and even though he comes down on it when need be he&#39;s nowhere near as complaining about it as you are.[/b]

&#39;Complaining about it&#39;? You mean like when someones makes a homophobic statement or whatever, i dont ignore it? Let it slide? What are you really talking about here?

And for your information, TAT is in one of the most committed on this board when it comes to fighting homophobia, he&#39;s been doing it a lot longer than me, and on other boards - if it wasnt for TAT we would be having a lot more problems with homophobia and related ignorance - but i suppose you could just whinge about how &#39;over-sensitive&#39; i am, guess that&#39;s a progressive stance to take :rolleyes:


Originally posted by C Ras
More tolerant of homophobia?

Yes.

You&#39;re always whinging about how &#39;intolerant&#39; people are when it comes to prejudiced language, that people need to &#39;lighten up&#39; and not take such things so &#39;seriously&#39; - you&#39;re tolerant of prejudiced attitudes in general, that is very apparent.


Originally posted by C Ras

Is that just because we dont turn over each topic where someone slips up and says the word "fag" or "this is gay"?

So what are you suggesting? That no one should say a word when another member calls someone a fag or says &#39;this is gay&#39; in homophobic contexts?

What is the solution?

How should i respond?


C [email protected]

Is it because even though we disagree with it we&#39;re not willing to turn it into a massive CSPAN debate?

I see, so you&#39;re fine with just letting it slide by, unchallenged?

How do you think prejudiced ideas are gonna be overcome and cut-out-of the left if we just ignore them?

Or treat them as if they&#39;re no big deal, nothing to make a fuss about?


C Ras

Maybe we realize people make mistakes and thats good if the person in question gets corrected but shouldn&#39;t be made an example like you like to do.

What&#39;s the difference between getting &#39;corrected&#39; and making an &#39;example&#39;?

Do you have any examples where i&#39;ve treated a homophobe unfairly?



P.S. can you please reply to this post in full? If you&#39;re gonna call me out, then actually respond to what i say, not the usual, &#39;quote the whole post but reply in one line&#39; routine that usually use.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Black Dagger+Jul 8 2006, 11:32 AM--> (Black Dagger @ Jul 8 2006, 11:32 AM)
Originally posted by C Ras+--> ( C Ras)Sexual orientation has nothing to do with this, Black.[/b]

Yup coz white people are the best when it comes to things like anti-black racism, men when it comes to sexism etc. Not being a member of the group that is subject to a prejudice does have a practical effect on how you understand and &#39;feel&#39; prejudice towards that group, that&#39;s straight logic - you can never be as intune with prejudice that targets a group that you are not a part, least of all more intune than someone who experiences that prejudice themselves.

Sure you can &#39;empathise&#39;, but there&#39;s still a good chance that you&#39;ll fall into making stupid assumptions or saying stupid shit, sexist, racist and homophobic attitudes and assumptions are still very rife on the &#39;left&#39; - despite the fact that these are things that we reject.


Originally posted by C Ras

The admin TAT is gay I believe and even though he comes down on it when need be he&#39;s nowhere near as complaining about it as you are.

&#39;Complaining about it&#39;? You mean like when someones makes a homophobic statement or whatever, i dont ignore it? Let it slide? What are you really talking about here?

And for your information, TAT is in one of the most committed on this board when it comes to fighting homophobia, he&#39;s been doing it a lot longer than me, and on other boards - if it wasnt for TAT we would be having a lot more problems with homophobia and related ignorance - but i suppose you could just whinge about how &#39;over-sensitive&#39; i am, guess that&#39;s a progressive stance to take :rolleyes:


Originally posted by C Ras
More tolerant of homophobia?

Yes.

You&#39;re always whinging about how &#39;intolerant&#39; people are when it comes to prejudiced language, that people need to &#39;lighten up&#39; and not take such things so &#39;seriously&#39; - you&#39;re tolerant of prejudiced attitudes in general, that is very apparent.


Originally posted by C Ras

Is that just because we dont turn over each topic where someone slips up and says the word "fag" or "this is gay"?

So what are you suggesting? That no one should say a word when another member calls someone a fag or says &#39;this is gay&#39; in homophobic contexts?

What is the solution?

How should i respond?


C [email protected]

Is it because even though we disagree with it we&#39;re not willing to turn it into a massive CSPAN debate?

I see, so you&#39;re fine with just letting it slide by, unchallenged?

How do you think prejudiced ideas are gonna be overcome and cut-out-of the left if we just ignore them?

Or treat them as if they&#39;re no big deal, nothing to make a fuss about?


C Ras

Maybe we realize people make mistakes and thats good if the person in question gets corrected but shouldn&#39;t be made an example like you like to do.

What&#39;s the difference between getting &#39;corrected&#39; and making an &#39;example&#39;?

Do you have any examples where i&#39;ve treated a homophobe unfairly?



P.S. can you please reply to this post in full? If you&#39;re gonna call me out, then actually respond to what i say, not the usual, &#39;quote the whole post but reply in one line&#39; routine that usually use. [/b]
1. Way to jump to extremes like you seem to like to do. Did I ever say ignore it? or "let it slide"? No you fuckin make a huge deal about it and debate about it some little slip up in a topic thats not even really for much social debate. Remember this isn&#39;t Discrimination, k?

TAT may be a long standing member who&#39;s committed to stand against homophobia but in the time I&#39;ve been on RevLeft I&#39;ve NEVER seen him go off like you have. MAYBE (not quite sure) he believes in telling the person in question what they did wrong, warning them, and LETTING IT GO like you should.

2. Me being tolerant of prejudiced attitudes? Just because I dont make it as obvious as a fucking neon light like you do doesn&#39;t mean I&#39;m tolerant of it, fuck.

3. Once again there ya go with the taking shit to the extremes. Did I ever say people shouldn&#39;t say a word about it? NO I DIDN&#39;T. No the person who says it should have it brought to their attention but no need to be overly dramatic about it. Thats all I&#39;m fucking saying about it.

4. See above statement for example

5. I&#39;ve never seen you treat a homophobe poorly but you make a bigger deal out of it than anyone else I&#39;ve seen.

[Black Dagger]

I appreciate that you responded in more detail than usual, but can you please respond to my post directly? Like by quoting segments and then responding to those? It&#39;s hard to match up your numbers exactly with all the things i said in my last post.

like this paragraph for example,


Originally posted by Me+--> (Me)Yup coz white people are the best when it comes to things like anti-black racism, men when it comes to sexism etc. Not being a member of the group that is subject to a prejudice does have a practical effect on how you understand and &#39;feel&#39; prejudice towards that group, that&#39;s straight logic - you can never be as intune with prejudice that targets a group that you are not a part, least of all more intune than someone who experiences that prejudice themselves.

Sure you can &#39;empathise&#39;, but there&#39;s still a good chance that you&#39;ll fall into making stupid assumptions or saying stupid shit, sexist, racist and homophobic attitudes and assumptions are still very rife on the &#39;left&#39; - despite the fact that these are things that we reject.[/b]

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Originally posted by C Ras+--> ( C Ras)
1. Way to jump to extremes like you seem to like to do. Did I ever say ignore it? or "let it slide"? No you fuckin make a huge deal about it and debate about it some little slip up in a topic thats not even really for much social debate. Remember this isn&#39;t Discrimination, k?[/b]

What is &#39;extereme&#39; about what i said or what i do? And please, use examples.

Why should addressing social prejudice amongst the boards membership be restricted to the discrimination forum?

How do you suggest we handle homophobes and homophobic language?


Originally posted by C Ras
TAT may be a long standing member who&#39;s committed to stand against homophobia but in the time I&#39;ve been on RevLeft I&#39;ve NEVER seen him go off like you have.

How do i &#39;go off? What are you talking about specifically?

It seems that you just militancy unsettling?


Originally posted by C Ras
MAYBE (not quite sure) he believes in telling the person in question what they did wrong, warning them, and LETTING IT GO like you should.

Why should we let prejudice go?


Originally posted by C Ras
2. Me being tolerant of prejudiced attitudes? Just because I dont make it as obvious as a fucking neon light like you do doesn&#39;t mean I&#39;m tolerant of it, fuck.

Well it would help perhaps if you showed any signs of a serious opinion on this and other matters to deal with prejudice, revolutionary politics etc. - to my knowledge you have never really expressed any clear opinions on this topic, and if you have, these views are rarely if ever communicated in your posts.

And ranting about how &#39;sensitive&#39; to prejudice really doesnt tickle my &#39;revo-senses&#39; - perhaps if you&#39;re belittling homophobes rather than those who are personally offended by homophobia i might see you in a different light.


C [email protected]
3. Once again there ya go with the taking shit to the extremes. Did I ever say people shouldn&#39;t say a word about it? NO I DIDN&#39;T. No the person who says it should have it brought to their attention but no need to be overly dramatic about it. Thats all I&#39;m fucking saying about it.

Why are you so concerned about how i deal with homophobes on the board? I dont understand why this makes you so uncomfortable? Irritated? Interestingly, to my knowledge you&#39;ve never expressed any irritation at the prejudices of any member of this board - yet you routinely whinge about how &#39;uptight&#39; revleft is.


C Ras
5. I&#39;ve never seen you treat a homophobe poorly but you make a bigger deal out of it than anyone else I&#39;ve seen.

What exactly is wrong with making a big deal about homophobia? I don&#39;t understand why you take this so much to heart.

[C_Rasmussen]

Originally posted by Chajusong+Jul 8 2006, 12:41 PM--> (Chajusong @ Jul 8 2006, 12:41 PM) I appreciate that you responded in more detail than usual, but can you please respond to my post directly? Like by quoting segments and then responding to those? It&#39;s hard to match up your numbers exactly with all the things i said in my last post.

like this paragraph for example,


Originally posted by Me+--> (Me)Yup coz white people are the best when it comes to things like anti-black racism, men when it comes to sexism etc. Not being a member of the group that is subject to a prejudice does have a practical effect on how you understand and &#39;feel&#39; prejudice towards that group, that&#39;s straight logic - you can never be as intune with prejudice that targets a group that you are not a part, least of all more intune than someone who experiences that prejudice themselves.

Sure you can &#39;empathise&#39;, but there&#39;s still a good chance that you&#39;ll fall into making stupid assumptions or saying stupid shit, sexist, racist and homophobic attitudes and assumptions are still very rife on the &#39;left&#39; - despite the fact that these are things that we reject.[/b]

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Originally posted by C Ras

1. Way to jump to extremes like you seem to like to do. Did I ever say ignore it? or "let it slide"? No you fuckin make a huge deal about it and debate about it some little slip up in a topic thats not even really for much social debate. Remember this isn&#39;t Discrimination, k?

What is &#39;extereme&#39; about what i said or what i do? And please, use examples.

Why should addressing social prejudice amongst the boards membership be restricted to the discrimination forum?

How do you suggest we handle homophobes and homophobic language?


Originally posted by C Ras
TAT may be a long standing member who&#39;s committed to stand against homophobia but in the time I&#39;ve been on RevLeft I&#39;ve NEVER seen him go off like you have.

How do i &#39;go off? What are you talking about specifically?

It seems that you just militancy unsettling?


Originally posted by C Ras
MAYBE (not quite sure) he believes in telling the person in question what they did wrong, warning them, and LETTING IT GO like you should.

Why should we let prejudice go?


Originally posted by C Ras
2. Me being tolerant of prejudiced attitudes? Just because I dont make it as obvious as a fucking neon light like you do doesn&#39;t mean I&#39;m tolerant of it, fuck.

Well it would help perhaps if you showed any signs of a serious opinion on this and other matters to deal with prejudice, revolutionary politics etc. - to my knowledge you have never really expressed any clear opinions on this topic, and if you have, these views are rarely if ever communicated in your posts.

And ranting about how &#39;sensitive&#39; to prejudice really doesnt tickle my &#39;revo-senses&#39; - perhaps if you&#39;re belittling homophobes rather than those who are personally offended by homophobia i might see you in a different light.


C [email protected]
3. Once again there ya go with the taking shit to the extremes. Did I ever say people shouldn&#39;t say a word about it? NO I DIDN&#39;T. No the person who says it should have it brought to their attention but no need to be overly dramatic about it. Thats all I&#39;m fucking saying about it.

Why are you so concerned about how i deal with homophobes on the board? I dont understand why this makes you so uncomfortable? Irritated? Interestingly, to my knowledge you&#39;ve never expressed any irritation at the prejudices of any member of this board - yet you routinely whinge about how &#39;uptight&#39; revleft is.


C Ras
5. I&#39;ve never seen you treat a homophobe poorly but you make a bigger deal out of it than anyone else I&#39;ve seen.

What exactly is wrong with making a big deal about homophobia? I don&#39;t understand why you take this so much to heart. [/b]
Ok I dont know how to seperate quotes like you do so numbers&#39;ll have to do........

This is basically the same worn out bullshit. You take the net too fucking seriously, plain and simple.

You say I take this to heart? WTF? If I wasn&#39;t as damn lazy as I am I could probably bring up a number of links to your ramblings on here. You take this shit so much more serious than I do.

[commie anarchist rebel]

guys keep the thread about the topic please if you wanna talk about homophobia or what even than go some were else. now on topic, for mosh styles circle pits are always fun and are probly the best for any type of punky music whether its hardcore,punk, or emo/screamo.2 steppings always good for old school hardcore (not hardcore punk). lol and the pogo is just the funniest and fucking best dance ever cauz its so lame lol.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 03:10 AM
Circle pits or you are shit.

Either that or a homemade madball flailing at teenage girls heads.
Why not a teenage boy?

[Little brother]

Hardcore is the best gigs. Hands down. You can beat the shit out of people in the street. Release your pent up testosterone on a punching bag. Nothing beats a good street crew hit the pit and bring style a form to a gig. Amoungest the crazy carelessnes, you seefour or five dudes perfectly two stepping and adding their own stuff into it. It&#39;s beautiful. Theres such a market too cause it&#39;s such a young style. It&#39;s the sex for sure. Shame people in my egoistical town only want an excuse to beat the shit out of each other.....
Shame shame shame. Dance man. fucking dance.