Dprk Test Fires 4 Missles

[Guerrilla22]

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TOKYO (AP) - North Korea test-launched at least two mid-range missiles Wednesday that landed in the Sea of Japan, Japanese media reported, and a State Department official said the North appeared ready to launch the long-range Taepodong-2.

Japan's Kyodo news agency said they were believed to be mid-range Rodong missiles and landed about 300 miles off the western coast of Japan's Hokkaido Island.

A Pentagon official, who spoke only on condition of anonymity, identified two of the missiles as Scuds.

"The launch appears not to be the launch that has been in the news. This appears to be a launch of a lesser variety of scud missiles," the official said.

However, the State Department official said North Korea appeared ready to launch the long-range Taepodong-2 missile. The official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, did not confirm that the Taepodong-2 had been launched. Experts believe a Taepodong 2 could reach the United States with a light payload.

The reclusive communist state launched the first missile at 3:32 a.m., or 2:32 p.m. Tuesday EDT, and it crashed into the Sea of Japan several minutes later, public broadcaster NHK reported. NHK said two missiles were confirmed launched, but Kyodo quoted a government official as saying four missiles may have been fired.

Han Song Ryol, deputy chief of North Korea's mission to the U.N. in New York, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview: "We diplomats do not know what the military is doing."

So far, no members of the U.N. Security Council, which includes Japan and the United States, has asked for a meeting on North Korea's actions.

"We are urgently consulting with members of the Security Council," U.S. Ambassador John Bolton said in a statement.

North Korea's missile program is based on Scud technology provided by the former Soviet Union or Egypt, according to American and South Korean officials. North Korea started its Rodong-1 missile project in the late 1980s and test-fired the missile for the first time in 1993.

If the timing is correct, the North Korean missiles were launched within minutes of Tuesday's liftoff of Discovery, which blasted into orbit from Cape Canaveral in the first U.S. space shuttle launch in a year.

North Korea had observed a moratorium on long-range missile launches since 1999. It shocked the world in 1998 by firing a Taepodong missile over Japan and into the Pacific Ocean.

The reported launches came after weeks of speculation that the North was preparing to test its advanced Taepodong 2 missile from a site on its northeast coast.

The preparations had generated stern warnings from the United States and Japan, which had threatened possible economic sanctions in response.

Temperatures further heightened Monday when the North's main news agency quoted an unidentified newspaper analyst as saying Pyongyang was prepared to answer a U.S. military attack with "a relentless annihilating strike and a nuclear war."

The Bush administration responded by saying while it had no intention of attacking, it was determined to protect the United States if North Korea launched a long-range missile.

In Tokyo, a group of ruling party members called Tuesday for immediate economic sanctions against North Korea if the communist nation conducted the test-launch.

[JKP]

1. North Korea isn't communist.

2. We don't support them.

[Guerrilla22]

No kidding?

[Capitalist Lawyer]

Would communists like you guys support an American (w/ allies) invasion of N. Korea?

[JimmyC]

Dprk Test Fires 4 Missles, US can't do a damn thing about it

Three people in Paris eat lunch, Venezuela can't do a damn thing about it

[Entrails Konfetti]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 5 2006, 12:12 AM
Would communists like you guys support an American (w/ allies) invasion of N. Korea?
But capitalists like you said you wouldn't attack. So your question is bunk.

[More Fire for the People]

FIREWORKS! YAY! I'm so glad the DPRK share America's value for fighting the brutal foreign occupation of a country for the use of its natural resources.

[JKP]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 4 2006, 04:12 PM
Would communists like you guys support an American (w/ allies) invasion of N. Korea?
I'd prefer if their own people would overthrow Kim Jung. Kind of like how Saddam was almost overthrown during the Shia' rebellion of 1991, yet we allowed Saddam to brutally suppress the revolt with his tanks and gunships, even while "Stormin' Normin" was ready to intervene.

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 01:44 AM

Dprk Test Fires 4 Missles, US can't do a damn thing about it

Three people in Paris eat lunch, Venezuela can't do a damn thing about it
The point is. despite all its bravado, the US government knows it can't stop Kim Jong Il from testing missiles. Condoleeza Rice and others from the Bush regime made all sorts of threats leading up to the launch, but in the end, like El Kablamo said, the US lacks the balls to do anything about it.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

2. We don't support them.

Who's "we"? Communists support them against imperialism, though of course, lend not an ounce of political support to the DPRK regime.


Would communists like you guys support an American (w/ allies) invasion of N. Korea?

Of course not.

[Invader Zim]

I find the idea of the current North Korean dictatorship, with the ability to launch a nuclear strike a most unpleasant thought.

By the same token however, I also worry about the American, British, etc government being in control of such weapons. However, they have managed to go 60 years without one of their imbicile presidents or incompetant prime ministers pushing the 'pretty' red button, so I suppose my fears may be a tad misplaced. However, I think it would be prudent to strive for a world without the threat of nuclear holacaust. Thus I do not think it wise to want or support another nation, let alone one with a crack-pot dictatorship in control, aquiring nuclear weapons or the ability to launch such weapons.

But I fail to see just what could be done. From the point of view of Western governments, until they do get nuclear weapons then there is no feasable ground for even considering an invasion (a direct result of the disasterous Iraq PM mess) and once they have nuclear weapons no one will dare invade.

Oh what a pickle western stratagists must find them selves in.

[Severian]

Of course Washington can't do anything about it - the DPRK has nuclear weapons. That's exactly why Washington has made such a big deal over targeting those adversaries who were most capable of developing such weapons, labelling them the "Axis of Evil."

Once a country has nuclear weapons, and missiles capable of delivering them, Washington can't credibly threaten them anymore.

The failure of the test does somewhat weaken north Korea's deterrent, unfortunately. And of course Washington is working on missile interception and space-based weapons in an effort to restore its first-strike capability - against all the nuclear powers, not just the "rogue states."

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

But I fail to see just what could be done. From the point of view of Western governments, until they do get nuclear weapons then there is no feasable ground for even considering an invasion (a direct result of the disasterous Iraq PM mess) and once they have nuclear weapons no one will dare invade.

The DPRK has nuclear weapons.

[Invader Zim]

It is actually false to assume that North Korea has nuclear capabilities at this time, they seek to gain nuclear arms and technology to makes them selves be taken seriously by the international community, but no one knows how much progress they have made or how many arms they possess (if any) for certain.

[Martin Blank]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 12:19 AM
The failure of the test does somewhat weaken north Korea's deterrent, unfortunately. And of course Washington is working on missile interception and space-based weapons in an effort to restore its first-strike capability - against all the nuclear powers, not just the "rogue states."
Yes and no. The North Koreans can, first, point to the successes of the three other Taepodong-1 missiles, which are a regional deterrent, certainly. Second, they can point out that this was the first flight of the Taepodong-2, so the fact that it got off the ground at all was a success. Third, they can kindly remind their detractors that it took the Americans, Soviets, Chinese, etc., years before they each had a successful launch of a long-range ballistic missile like the Taepodong-2.

Miles

[Guerrilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 05:12 AM
I find the idea of the current North Korean dictatorship, with the ability to launch a nuclear strike a most unpleasant thought.

By the same token however, I also worry about the American, British, etc government being in control of such weapons. However, they have managed to go 60 years without one of their imbicile presidents or incompetant prime ministers pushing the 'pretty' red button, so I suppose my fears may be a tad misplaced. However, I think it would be prudent to strive for a world without the threat of nuclear holacaust. Thus I do not think it wise to want or support another nation, let alone one with a crack-pot dictatorship in control, aquiring nuclear weapons or the ability to launch such weapons.

But I fail to see just what could be done. From the point of view of Western governments, until they do get nuclear weapons then there is no feasable ground for even considering an invasion (a direct result of the disasterous Iraq PM mess) and once they have nuclear weapons no one will dare invade.

Oh what a pickle western stratagists must find them selves in.
It is a pickle, because some in the DOD tried to claim that they would "blow up the missle on the launch site," which of course they knew very well the Bush regime wouldn't dare try. Sanctions aren't a deterent because the DPRK has more sanctions currently levied against it than any country on earth. Kim Jong Il can continue to develop missiles untill they finally create an ICBM, capable of reaching the US that works and there's nothing Washington can do, short of a military action, which like I said before, they lack the balls to do, because whether or not Washington wants to admitt it or not, they're scared of the DPRK.

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 11:40 PM
It is actually false to assume that North Korea has nuclear capabilities at this time,
It's not an assumption; it's a considered judgement. There's considerable reason to think north Korea has some nuclear weapons.

The hard part is getting enough fissionable material, and they did that years ago. Enough plutonium for several bombs was under IAEA seal at Yongbyong. That was removed from Yongbyong in late 2002. I could go on.

***

I take your point, Miles. Certainly I didn't intend to suggest they had no deterrent.

[Black Dagger]

Were these missiles launched on the 4th or 5th of July? Want to know if the Norh Korean govt. has a sense of humour...

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by Black [email protected] 5 2006, 09:18 AM
Were these missiles launched on the 4th or 5th of July? Want to know if the Norh Korean govt. has a sense of humour...
The 4th :lol:

[theraven]

Originally posted by Guerrilla22+Jul 5 2006, 06:50 AM--> (Guerrilla22 @ Jul 5 2006, 06:50 AM)
[email protected] 5 2006, 05:12 AM
I find the idea of the current North Korean dictatorship, with the ability to launch a nuclear strike a most unpleasant thought.

By the same token however, I also worry about the American, British, etc government being in control of such weapons. However, they have managed to go 60 years without one of their imbicile presidents or incompetant prime ministers pushing the 'pretty' red button, so I suppose my fears may be a tad misplaced. However, I think it would be prudent to strive for a world without the threat of nuclear holacaust. Thus I do not think it wise to want or support another nation, let alone one with a crack-pot dictatorship in control, aquiring nuclear weapons or the ability to launch such weapons.

But I fail to see just what could be done. From the point of view of Western governments, until they do get nuclear weapons then there is no feasable ground for even considering an invasion (a direct result of the disasterous Iraq PM mess) and once they have nuclear weapons no one will dare invade.

Oh what a pickle western stratagists must find them selves in.
It is a pickle, because some in the DOD tried to claim that they would "blow up the missle on the launch site," which of course they knew very well the Bush regime wouldn't dare try. Sanctions aren't a deterent because the DPRK has more sanctions currently levied against it than any country on earth. Kim Jong Il can continue to develop missiles untill they finally create an ICBM, capable of reaching the US that works and there's nothing Washington can do, short of a military action, which like I said before, they lack the balls to do, because whether or not Washington wants to admitt it or not, they're scared of the DPRK. [/b]
The US has its missle shield, however we have not tested it yet. the missles that got out of N.korea crasehd into the sea of japan, and the ones that could reach america didnt' get far off the ground. clearly they don't have the power we assumed.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Severian+Jul 5 2006, 08:15 AM--> (Severian @ Jul 5 2006, 08:15 AM)
[email protected] 4 2006, 11:40 PM
It is actually false to assume that North Korea has nuclear capabilities at this time,
It's not an assumption; it's a considered judgement. There's considerable reason to think north Korea has some nuclear weapons.

The hard part is getting enough fissionable material, and they did that years ago. Enough plutonium for several bombs was under IAEA seal at Yongbyong. That was removed from Yongbyong in late 2002. I could go on.

***

I take your point, Miles. Certainly I didn't intend to suggest they had no deterrent. [/b]
Well, many scientists disagree with you.

Why?: -

No one has seen these weapons.

No test has been made of any such weapon.

[theraven]

Originally posted by Enigma+Jul 5 2006, 05:00 PM--> (Enigma @ Jul 5 2006, 05:00 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 08:15 AM

[email protected] 4 2006, 11:40 PM
It is actually false to assume that North Korea has nuclear capabilities at this time,
It's not an assumption; it's a considered judgement. There's considerable reason to think north Korea has some nuclear weapons.

The hard part is getting enough fissionable material, and they did that years ago. Enough plutonium for several bombs was under IAEA seal at Yongbyong. That was removed from Yongbyong in late 2002. I could go on.

***

I take your point, Miles. Certainly I didn't intend to suggest they had no deterrent.
Well, many scientists disagree with you.

Why?: -

No one has seen these weapons.

No test has been made of any such weapon. [/b]
we aren't saying for sure, however it is a reasonable assumption.

[Zero]

Originally posted by "theraven"
The US has its missle shield, however we have not tested it yet. the missles that got out of N.korea crasehd into the sea of japan, and the ones that could reach america didnt' get far off the ground. clearly they don't have the power we assumed.

That must be the 'Star Wars' program that was lucky when it missed by 5 miles.

[kamrat klik]

Originally posted by Zero+Jul 5 2006, 06:29 PM--> (Zero @ Jul 5 2006, 06:29 PM)
\"theraven\"
The US has its missle shield, however we have not tested it yet. the missles that got out of N.korea crasehd into the sea of japan, and the ones that could reach america didnt\' get far off the ground. clearly they don\'t have the power we assumed.

That must be the \'Star Wars\' program that was lucky when it missed by 5 miles. [/b]
What\'sa matter? You a Reagan hater? Starwars was just a preliminary experiemtn. There was nothing to preceed it. Kim and the boys from Brazil however have been developing their missiles for 50 years. Do you know 5 of those missiles were scuds? Do you know what scuds are? Nazi-ass V2! Kim is ripping off German technology and threatening the world with obsolete 50y.o. technology! And look at the Tapodong ding dong. Flew a couple miles and caput. Pretty good if they wanted to bomb themselves I suppose! so I fully encourage and endorse production of these missiles byt eh North heheheheh communist retards.

[Jazzratt]

You're a bit of a **** aren't you kamrat klik?


What\'sa matter? You a Reagan hater?I can't think of any non-restricted member of Revolutionary Left (as a webforum or movement) who doesn't think Reagan was a tosspot of epic proportions.

Starwars was just a preliminary experiemtn. There was nothing to preceed it. It still sucked, the previous method for not getting another country to bomb you was diplomacy, but america has yet to grasp that doesn't mean demanding that the rest of the world gives them everything.

There was nothing to preceed it. Kim and the boys from Brazil however have been developing their missiles for 50 years. Do you know 5 of those missiles were scuds? Do you know what scuds are? Nazi-ass V2! Kim is ripping off German technology and threatening the world with obsolete 50y.o. technology! And look at the Tapodong ding dong. North Korea isn't "threatening the world" with anything, it is testing its missiles - y'know like your little country and pakistan and all the other places in the world that can test their missliles without all the mouthbreathers in the world howling about it. Also the Taepodong-1 is a regional deterrent and so doesn't need that kind of range. As for your other "critisiscms" rocket science is a science like any other and you do need to test any new things you come up with.

North [korean] heheheheh communist retards. There aren't a hell of a lot of fans of Juche here on this board you know so many people would readily point out that the DPRK are not communist. Now back to your enclosure.

[kamrat klik]

You\'re a bit of a **** aren\'t you kamrat klik?

A piece of female anatomy? Is that the best you got? And what, pray tell is wrong with ****s? I happen to enjoy them. Perhaps there is a feminist ehre who can reprimand you?


I can\'t think of any non-restricted member of Revolutionary Left (as a webforum or movement) who doesn\'t think Reagan was a tosspot of epic proportions.
That\'s just the insantiy talking. I suppose you have no idea why Americans consider Regan the greatest ever American?


Starwars was just a preliminary experiemtn. There was nothing to preceed it.

It still sucked, the previous method for not getting another country to bomb you was diplomacy, but america has yet to grasp that doesn\'t mean demanding that the rest of the world gives them everything.
Guess what? Star wars was named after the film form which Regan coined the phrase \'evil empire\'=you know who. And so what if America wishes to defend herself? What\'s wrong with that? You want America to be bombed I suppose? Oh how sweet of you!


North Korea isn\'t \"threatening the world\" with anything, it is testing its missiles - y\'know like your little country and pakistan and all the other places in the world that can test their missliles without all the mouthbreathers in the world howling about it. Also the Taepodong-1 is a regional deterrent and so doesn\'t need that kind of range. As for your other \"critisiscms\" rocket science is a science like any other and you do need to test any new things you come up with.
No! North Korea is\'nt threateing the world? What are you taking to induce such illusions? Do you know there is a NK spokesman in Japan who says American cities are locked into the Korean computers for obliteration should the US even breath in the region? Where do you get off? They consider sanctions an act of war! PS did you know the Americans are still at war with the Koreans?


There aren\'t a hell of a lot of fans of Juche here on this board you know so many people would readily point out that the DPRK are not communist. Now back to your enclosure.
Enclosure? That would be Cuba?

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by kamrat [email protected] 6 2006, 11:18 AM

You\'re a bit of a **** aren\'t you kamrat klik?

A piece of female anatomy? Is that the best you got? And what, pray tell is wrong with ****s? I happen to enjoy them. Perhaps there is a feminist ehre who can reprimand you?
Oh don't be so obtuse, you know exactly what I meant. Tosspot. (As for the feminist thing, you don't meet a lot of femenists do you?)




I can\'t think of any non-restricted member of Revolutionary Left (as a webforum or movement) who doesn\'t think Reagan was a tosspot of epic proportions.
That\'s just the insantiy talking. I suppose you have no idea why Americans consider Regan the greatest ever American?
I could think of quite a few reasons you would consider him the greatest american ever. I can also think of reasons for Hitler being the greatest german ever. Neither of them are the greatest anything however and I'm glad they're six feet under where they belong. I suppsoe you have no idea why most sane people think he's a fuckwit?


Guess what? Star wars was named after the film form which Regan coined the phrase \'evil empire\'=you know who. And so what if America wishes to defend herself? What\'s wrong with that? You want America to be bombed I suppose? Oh how sweet of you! Tells you a lot about american culture really. America can defend itself and one of the best ways of doing that is not starting fights with the rest of the world because it believes that it has the largest national penis and is invincible.


No! North Korea is\'nt threateing the world? What are you taking to induce such illusions? Do you know there is a NK spokesman in Japan who says American cities are locked into the Korean computers for obliteration should the US even breath in the region? Where do you get off? They consider sanctions an act of war! PS did you know the Americans are still at war with the Koreans? Saying that you will fight back if attacked is not threatening the rest of the world. In fact they're only really threatening the one nation. If you care to count the world's nations you will find that there are considerbaly more than the US and Korea. The Americans are at war with Koreans? They seem very dedicated to the war what with their starting fights with many other nations.

Enclosure? That would be Cuba? TYhat would be a reference to how you are at the intellectual level of a howler monkey.

[kamrat klik]

Oh don\'t be so obtuse, you know exactly what I meant. Tosspot. (As for the feminist thing, you don\'t meet a lot of femenists do you?)

They call each other ****?


I could think of quite a few reasons you would consider him the greatest american ever. I can also think of reasons for Hitler being the greatest german ever. Neither of them are the greatest anything however and I\'m glad they\'re six feet under where they belong. I suppsoe you have no idea why most sane people think he\'s a fuckwit?
Reagan promoted freedom. He also destroyed the USSR. I guess you have a problem with both.


Tells you a lot about american culture really. America can defend itself and one of the best ways of doing that is not starting fights with the rest of the world because it believes that it has the largest national penis and is invincible.

HAHHAHAHAH! whatever...


Saying that you will fight back if attacked is not threatening the rest of the world. In fact they\'re only really threatening the one nation. If you care to count the world\'s nations you will find that there are considerbaly more than the US and Korea. The Americans are at war with Koreans? They seem very dedicated to the war what with their starting fights with many other nations.

HAHAH you didn\'t know they never signed a peace treaty? Of course its provocation. PS why are you defending North Korea? I\'m sure most of the people here would prefer the United States. But i\'m just ignorant and not clever like you Mr Elitist.


Enclosure? That would be Cuba?

TYhat would be a reference to how you are at the intellectual level of a howler monkey.
So people are free to leave Cuba or North Korea or any communist country? And you defend this no doubt. Methinks you are lower than the said Howler Monkey.

[TC]

JKP writes

1. North Korea isn't communist.

2. We don't support them.


Speak for yourself traitor :P
Capitalist Lawyer

Would communists like you guys support an American (w/ allies) invasion of N. Korea?
No. I would however support a joint Chinese-DPRK-Cuban-Venezuelan invasion of the United States, provided that it would be likely to be successful.

JKP writes

I'd prefer if their own people would overthrow Kim Jung.

That would be rather absurd since they support him and they could remove him democratically from office if they wanted to.


Kind of like how Saddam was almost overthrown during the Shia' rebellion of 1991,

You would rather have the Shia Ayatollahs in power than a secular, anti-imperialist, anti-islamist, socially liberal government that protected women and workers' rights from the Aytollahs?

It was good that Saddam's government crushed the Shia rebellion and it would be good if the Ba'ath party and other patriotric resistance crush the current pro-imperialist Shia puppet "government".


I find the idea of the current North Korean dictatorship, with the ability to launch a nuclear strike a most unpleasant thought.


Its an excellent thought, it means that the US will never dare to invade the DPRK, the DPRK will never become another Iraq or Vietnam to the Americans.


However, they have managed to go 60 years without one of their imbicile presidents or incompetant prime ministers pushing the 'pretty' red button
But they've been close and they haven't managed to go 62 years have they? The Americans are the only country to ever use nuclear weapons in war, the Americans and the British are among the few to use weapons of mass destruction frequently.


Once a country has nuclear weapons, and missiles capable of delivering them, Washington can't credibly threaten them anymore.


Which is why its a good thing that they have nuclear weapons. There should be more anti-imperialist countries with nuclear weapons, there would be less war. They should have sold some to Iraq before the war and it would have saved tens of thousands of lives.


It is actually false to assume that North Korea has nuclear capabilities at this time, they seek to gain nuclear arms and technology to makes them selves be taken seriously by the international community, but no one knows how much progress they have made or how many arms they possess (if any) for certain.

Well, it is known that they have enough weapons grade uranium for half a dozen or more nuclear weapons based on the length of time they've run nuclear reactors. This is the difficult part in terms of making nuclear weapons, the actual construction is comparatively simple and within the technical capabilities of most countries. They also say they have nuclear weapons.

Since its known that they have the resources and technology to make nuclear weapons, and they say they've done so, theres very little reason not to believe them.


Yes and no. The North Koreans can, first, point to the successes of the three other Taepodong-1 missiles, which are a regional deterrent, certainly.

One of the things that seems so odd is that while americans seem very concerned about Taepondong-2 missiles hitting California they seem relatively unconcerned about Taepondong-1 missiles hitting Hawaii. Surely destroying Honolulu and Hilo along with much of the American pacific fleet would be a sufficent deterent in of itself. I guess most Americans just care much more about California than Hawaii


Were these missiles launched on the 4th or 5th of July? Want to know if the Norh Korean govt. has a sense of humour...


Lol the fourth...i guess they were celebratory lol.



No one has seen these weapons.

No test has been made of any such weapon.


But again, they don't need to test them to know with sufficent confidence that they'd work because the mechanism is fairly simple. The point of nuclear testing is really to demonstrate capabilities. They also probably don't have enough uranium to want to waste it on a test.


There aren't a hell of a lot of fans of Juche here on this board you know so many people would readily point out that the DPRK are not communist. Now back to your enclosure.


I'm not a "juche fan" because i think juche is silly, but the DPRK is as socialist as Cuba and moreso than Venezuela, to not support it on a political/economic level while supporting Latin american socialist states is absurd.

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by kamrat [email protected] 6 2006, 11:46 AM

Oh don\'t be so obtuse, you know exactly what I meant. Tosspot. (As for the feminist thing, you don\'t meet a lot of femenists do you?)

They call each other ****?
I don't know about each other but people like you would more than likley be called a ****. At least thats the feminists I know.



I could think of quite a few reasons you would consider him the greatest american ever. I can also think of reasons for Hitler being the greatest german ever. Neither of them are the greatest anything however and I\'m glad they\'re six feet under where they belong. I suppsoe you have no idea why most sane people think he\'s a fuckwit?
Reagan promoted freedom. He also destroyed the USSR. I guess you have a problem with both. Reagan promoted freedom?! Methinks somone was kicked in the head as a child. Only mouth breathing reaganite fuckwits claim it was reagan alone that destroyed the USSR. You have to remember treachorous people like Gorbachev and his ilk.


Saying that you will fight back if attacked is not threatening the rest of the world. In fact they\'re only really threatening the one nation. If you care to count the world\'s nations you will find that there are considerbaly more than the US and Korea. The Americans are at war with Koreans? They seem very dedicated to the war what with their starting fights with many other nations.

HAHAH you didn\'t know they never signed a peace treaty? Of course its provocation. PS why are you defending North Korea? I\'m sure most of the people here would prefer the United States. But i\'m just ignorant and not clever like you Mr Elitist. Not signing a peace treaty is only a technicality in terms of grounds for being at war. Berwick-on-tweed are still fighting Germany by that logic.



Enclosure? That would be Cuba?

TYhat would be a reference to how you are at the intellectual level of a howler monkey.
So people are free to leave Cuba or North Korea or any communist country? And you defend this no doubt. Methinks you are lower than the said Howler Monkey. I use this subforum a lot so I'm used to obtuse people that talk out of their arse and ignore the meaning of comments but some of them at least pretend they're not inbred cretins. Not so with you. When I said 'back to your enclosure' I was NOT talking about North Korea or Cuba I was talking about the zoo enclosure you so obviously belong in. Also neither Cuba nor North Korea are communist, they are socialist.

[kamrat klik]

I don\'t know about each other but people like you would more than likley be called a ****. At least thats the feminists I know.
I really don\'t mind it. In fact, its cool.


Reagan promoted freedom?! Methinks somone was kicked in the head as a child.
MUAHHHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH! Oh Boy! This is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I\'ve found a funny site havn\'t I?HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH! Oh God please stop me laughing! You clearly redefine the term retard! HEHEHE. I suppose you think of Castro when you think freedom right?


Only mouth breathing reaganite fuckwits claim it was reagan alone that destroyed the USSR. You have to remember treachorous people like Gorbachev and his ilk.
I like Gorbachev too. He was funny. Kinda a loser compared to Reagan though - the real champion.


Not signing a peace treaty is only a technicality in terms of grounds for being at war. Berwick-on-tweed are still fighting Germany by that logic.
We are at war with North Korea - its a statemetn of fact. If they want to test missiles we should shoot them down. Perhaps we did but noone is saying?


I use this subforum a lot so Im used to obtuse people that talk out of their arse and ignore the meaning of comments but some of them at least pretend they\'re not inbred cretins. Not so with you.
Obtuse or obtruse?


When I said back to your enclosure I was NOT talking about North Korea or Cuba I was talking about the zoo enclosure you so obviously belong in. Also neither Cuba nor North Korea are communist, they are socialist.
Then why defend what you don\'t like? PS. You know what a North Korean beach looks like?

http://www.timcopejourneys.com/email/files/Lockedout.jpg
They use electric fences to stop people escaping by sea. I would of thought this was an enclosure. Obviously not. I apologise.

[theraven]

Reagan promoted freedom?! Methinks somone was kicked in the head as a child. Only mouth breathing reaganite fuckwits claim it was reagan alone that destroyed the USSR. You have to remember treachorous people like Gorbachev and his ilk.

Gorbachev made mistakes but he was not treacherous. by your logic it hitler not FDR who won WWII


Not signing a peace treaty is only a technicality in terms of grounds for being at war. Berwick-on-tweed are still fighting Germany by that logic.

no its a statement of fact that we are indeed in a state of war with North Korea. we signed a cease fire that has gone for arouned 50 years.

[The Resistor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2006, 11:34 PM
1. North Korea isn't communist.

2. We don't support them.
you tell 'em

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2006, 02:30 PM

Reagan promoted freedom?! Methinks somone was kicked in the head as a child. Only mouth breathing reaganite fuckwits claim it was reagan alone that destroyed the USSR. You have to remember treachorous people like Gorbachev and his ilk.

Gorbachev made mistakes but he was not treacherous. by your logic it hitler not FDR who won WWII

Except of course Gorbachev and most of the leaders of the USSR since Kurshcev and arguably were in fact traitors to the proletariat and the revolution. Actually each historical war and so on has many different factors in its outcome - World War 2 for example was won mainly by Stalin and Churchill with FDR providing support. Hitler stayed true to his orginal (extremely fucked up) idea though.




Not signing a peace treaty is only a technicality in terms of grounds for being at war. Berwick-on-tweed are still fighting Germany by that logic.

no its a statement of fact that we are indeed in a state of war with North Korea. we signed a cease fire that has gone for arouned 50 years. Right, so do you think Britian and America should be lending assistance to Berwick upon Tweed's war against Germany? If Germany tests rockets that could in theory reach the scotland/england border should we go insane and start throwing our shit around the enclosure? No. Then shut the fuck up.