Should America use MOAB bombs on the Taliban?

[RAM]

Yes!!! Use them now! They deserve it!

Just like this: -

How bloddy big it is: -

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Launch, Launch

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Here it comes: -

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Hahahahah Taliban!!!!!

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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RUNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mushroom cloud: -

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Diagram to show its size: -

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Wonder what America is working on next???????

I WONDER ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Zombie]

Yes that's it praise the ennemy's armament, fight fire with more fire and the world will live in peace. or pieces.
Hey while we're at it, let's praise Little Boy shall we! After all it was used against the ennemy wasn't it?

You seem a tad too excited about all this.

[Harmless Games]

I agree with Zombie, while this weapon could replace nukes which would be a step in the right direction, it is still a weapon that will kill and justified peoples. God i my country.

[WUOrevolt]

No bombs should ever be used on anyone

[Urban Rubble]

Does this guy mean Al-Queda ? I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as the Taliban anymore.

[Tasha]

The people fighting for the taliban are innocent, most of them join it so they can feed their families rather than starve. killing them is murder

[Dhul Fiqar]

Exactly...

You are starting to strike me as quite the prick, RAM

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Tasha on 7:41 am on May 17, 2003
The people fighting for the taliban are innocent, most of them join it so they can feed their families rather than starve. killing them is murder


Well so is flying a plain into 2 buildings and killing 3000 people. I know that they did not do this but they helped and protected those who did. Which makes them equily guilty.

But giant bombs scare me...

(Edited by AK47 at 10:54 am on May 17, 2003)

[CubanFox]

Quote: from AK47 on 10:43 am on May 17, 2003

Quote: from Tasha on 7:41 am on May 17, 2003
The people fighting for the taliban are innocent, most of them join it so they can feed their families rather than starve. killing them is murder


Well so is flying a plain into 2 buildings and killing 3000 people. I know that they did not do this but they helped and protected those who did. Which makes them equily guilty.

But giant bombs scare me...

(Edited by AK47 at 10:54 am on May 17, 2003)


I'm not sure you fully got what he said. The leadership might want to protect al Qaeda, but not Average Mohammed the Taliban soldier dude.

[Dirty Commie]

Why would any one praise a weapon meant to kill people in as big of an explosion possible.

I am not a pacifist at all but am opposed to the use of bombs that simply destroy for the sake of destroying.

The thing weights ten tons, what is the purpose of a bomb that friggin' big.

[NeedForRevolution]

If you praise this bomb you can praise the airplaines with crashed in to the WTC as well

[RAM]

No becuase MOAB should be used on the taliban and anyone who support 9/11 should be MOABED!!!!

[LOIC]

No becuase MOAB should be used on the taliban and anyone who support 9/11 should be MOABED!!!!

That's a great argument. I'm convinced.

[RAM]

Also defining good and evil is difficult and the Taliban are evil to some and another mans freedom fighter! If they don't want to be bombed then stop being a terrorist!

[NeedForRevolution]

rubbish ever been in an airplaine?
i was you dont see who is the enemy and the bomb doesnt either........
Taliban dont exist anymore......
Al Queda exists but how do you know where?????
If i interpret your personality right you are an ignorant american who thinks they are anywhere in the middle east so bomb it....
if you put all Terrorists together without other people near them.... bomb them thats right but you cant so this bomb is useless.......
the americans used big enough bombs in iraq......
Islamists striked back.. so of what use it is to built bigger bombs??? you want bigger back strikes????

[RAM]

I mentioned the taliban becuase America used the bunker buster in Afghanistan and they know have the MOAB whihc is MUCH BIGGER and the Taliban are back as Opium production has incresed massivly and America only has control of Kabul and not the rest of the country!

[NeedForRevolution]

The americans only have controll of some parts of the coutry because the never wanted to bring peace to afganistan

[sglb]

no way. violence is not way to solve problems
as gahndi said, 'an eye for an eye makes the world go blind'

[RAM]

Yes but some people don't do talk they only undestand violence and MOABS bombs near by!

[Blasphemy]

Praise the tool which kills people in abundance. Praise the man who fires this tool with a cold face. Praise the destruction, the devastation and death that this tools causes. Praise the war which allows us to use this tool. Praise the nameless, faceless people who have become nothing but statistics. Praise hell.

[BRIN]

The montainous tribesmen who supported the war on the Taliban have got the shits with Americans and are threatening to start war if the Americans keep dictating to them.So those MOAB's will be used on the people of Afghanistan not the Taliban


RAM you sound awfully pro-american and thats not very communistic

[Dhul Fiqar]

Quote: from RAM on 1:16 am on May 18, 2003
Yes but some people don't do talk they only undestand violence and MOABS bombs near by!


People have tried to explain this, and yet you don't seem to understand, leading me to believe it was a mistake to resind my call for an investigation into your credentials for appearing outside OI...

You are a murderous xenophobic asshole. You don't seem to give a shit about innocent civilians as long as they have brown skin and live far away, but if your fellow white christians get seriously attacked in MUCH smaller numbers one single time (9-11), you're distraught.

Fucking hypocrite, this thread disgusts me, and so do you.

--- G.

[CubanFox]

I get the feeling this dude should be restricted to OI. Dhul, pull some strings and make it happen. ;)

[RAM]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 11:40 am on May 18, 2003

Quote: from RAM on 1:16 am on May 18, 2003
Yes but some people don't do talk they only undestand violence and MOABS bombs near by!


You BASTARD!!!!! That why I started a thread calling for the IRA to be bombed and all terroits!!!

All terroists should be bombed!!!!!
People have tried to explain this, and yet you don't seem to understand, leading me to believe it was a mistake to resind my call for an investigation into your credentials for appearing outside OI...

You are a murderous xenophobic asshole. You don't seem to give a shit about innocent civilians as long as they have brown skin and live far away, but if your fellow white christians get seriously attacked in MUCH smaller numbers one single time (9-11), you're distraught.

Fucking hypocrite, this thread disgusts me, and so do you.

--- G.

[RAM]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 11:40 am on May 18, 2003

Quote: from RAM on 1:16 am on May 18, 2003
Yes but some people don't do talk they only undestand violence and MOABS bombs near by!


People have tried to explain this, and yet you don't seem to understand, leading me to believe it was a mistake to resind my call for an investigation into your credentials for appearing outside OI...

You are a murderous xenophobic asshole. You don't seem to give a shit about innocent civilians as long as they have brown skin and live far away, but if your fellow white christians get seriously attacked in MUCH smaller numbers one single time (9-11), you're distraught.

Fucking hypocrite, this thread disgusts me, and so do you.

--- G.


I am not a christain and I don't like any form of terrorism inlcuing IRA bombing and if I only like bombing arabas then hoiw come that I won't to bomb the IRA who are white and live and woirk in my country and carry out acts

YOU ARE CLEARLY A RETARD WHO CAN'T READ POSTS!!!!

[Dhul Fiqar]

I don't give a shit what your policy on Northern Ireland is, the point we're discussing is your disgusting bloodlust for killing innocent Afghans (and possibly other brown people, who knows). Yes some Taliban died in those bombings, but they also killed many thousands of civilians, a lot more than died on 9-11. And that's even by their own estimates...

Now if the western powers weren't so sensitive to losing white people on the battlefield, they would not have used HUGE bombs dropped indiscriminately on populated areas, they would have just gone in with soldiers and most of the opposition would have surrendered anyway (like they did once they finally got their ass in there). It would have cost a couple of hundred coalition casualties, but saved thousands of Afghan lives.
What you did was glorify needless mass murder, and you justified this by invoking the deaths of just under three thousand white people as justyification for killing as many brown people as it takes to punish the few Taliban responsible. That is unacceptable.

CubanFox: The vote is already under way. ;)

--- G.

[Invader Zim]

Quote: from Dhul Fiqar on 12:43 pm on May 18, 2003
I don't give a shit what your policy on Northern Ireland is, the point we're discussing is your disgusting bloodlust for killing innocent Afghans (and possibly other brown people, who knows). Yes some Taliban died in those bombings, but they also killed many thousands of civilians, a lot more than died on 9-11. And that's even by their own estimates...

Now if the western powers weren't so sensitive to losing white people on the battlefield, they would not have used HUGE bombs dropped indiscriminately on populated areas, they would have just gone in with soldiers and most of the opposition would have surrendered anyway (like they did once they finally got their ass in there). It would have cost a couple of hundred coalition casualties, but saved thousands of Afghan lives.
What you did was glorify needless mass murder, and you justified this by invoking the deaths of just under three thousand white people as justyification for killing as many brown people as it takes to punish the few Taliban responsible. That is unacceptable.

CubanFox: The vote is already under way. ;)

--- G.

I don't give a shit what your policy on Northern Ireland is

Then why did you call him a racist then.

Thats right Dhul generalise. Any one who disagree's with you must be either a racist, capitalist or both. Its pathetic it really is, the fact you have obviously failed to read his posts says a lot about you. Especially that you have accused him of being a racist.

You should not be discusted with RAM but your self. You have just shown your self to be on a par with that fool who created the Nazi's and Retards post.

Also RAM never said he wanted to see civillians die he said TALIBAN, as you seem to be unable to read posts perhaps i should spell it out a bit more.

T - A - L - I - B - A - N

Not

C - I - V - I - L - I - A - N - S

Can you read that?


What RAM is saying is obviosly nothing to do with christianity, or the colour of skin. My opinion of you Dhul has gone right down when you made that obvios lie to further your case against RAM.

[scott thesocialist]

hey what the fuck no bombs should be used on anybody esp. not the fucking biggest bomb in the world,thats just shit fighting.anyway what taliban are we talking about the ones that are no longer in power so in fact there are no taliban instead we have people trying to live a life as best they can abd then comes some asshole like ram or what ever the fuck your name is and bomb innocent lives, in any country that they choose get a fucking grip this is not what this site is about if you wanna play soliders join the army.

[Dhul Fiqar]

AK47: MATE, YOU RE-READ MY DAMN POSTS, OK?

I know he didn't SAY he wanted to kill civilians, but he posted pics of a MOAB going off. Do you KNOW WHAT THAT IS???

It is a weapon of mass destruction and indiscriminate murder. It is almost impossible to drop it where they have been dropping them without causing MASSIVE CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.

This he IGNORED. Choosing to focus on the fact that some bad people were among the civilians being massacred by these bombs. HE CHEERED the fact that such imprecise and murderous weapons were being used. He acted like he had a fucking erection.

As for Northern Ireland, it has nothing to do with anyting unless he really want to drop MOABs on Belfast. Because if he does, then he's not a racist, and I apologize for that statement. That doesn't mean he's not a crazed murdering bastard who is willing to blow up all the women and children it takes to get to the bad guys, it just means he does't care what colour those civilians are. Oh, how incredibly noble...
Do you get it now? I'm not complaining about him CLAIMING to want to see civlians die, I'm complaining about him making it clear that he doesn't care if they do.


--- G.

[Dhul Fiqar]

BTW, since the above is about the tenth time I explained my position, and probably the most compact and understandable version I've managed to write so far (although that's not saying much), I hereby retire from the discussion untill the vote is finalize.

Unless of course anyone has something to add, as opposed to REPEAT.

My final word is this: Whether or not you are happy to see the Taliban killed has nothing to do with cheering about Weapons of Mass Destruction being used indiscriminately on a country. If you want to see the Taliban killed you should cheer for something more appropriate to that stance. Like sniper bullets that find their head, not ten thousand pound bombs being dropped on their entire village!

RAM made a choice to display his true colours and show us that his preferred tactic is indiscriminate mass murder. This is the same call the Taliban and Al Qaeda made when they opted for an all out attack on a populated area to get to a few "guilty" individuals and entities/institutions.

It is NEVER right to throw the baby out with the bathwater like that.

The end.

--- G.


(Edited by Dhul Fiqar at 11:39 pm on May 19, 2003)