Warfare

[Karl Marx's Camel]

Anyone else been to this site? I think it's great.


Are there any other sites out there with any quality material on warfare/war litterature?

IMHO I think as many leftists as possible should educate themselves in this subject. What do you think?

Bellum.nu (http://www.bellum.nu/)

[EusebioScrib]

Guerilla warfare in general, eh maybe. Urban guerilla warfare, definitly.

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 09:41 AM
Anyone else been to this site? I think it's great.


Are there any other sites out there with any quality material on warfare/war litterature?

IMHO I think as many leftists as possible should educate themselves in this subject. What do you think?

Bellum.nu (http://www.bellum.nu/)
One word: Wow. But it doesn't really get into specifics about revolution or overthrowing the government, just about general nation vs nation fighting.

[Karl Marx's Camel]

Guerilla warfare in general, eh maybe. Urban guerilla warfare, definitly.

I think you are confusing things a bit here.


Guerilla warfare can both be urban and rural.


One word: Wow. But it doesn't really get into specifics about revolution or overthrowing the government

If you want to know about "revolution", you can read something else. That site is about warfare. "Bellum", I believe, means "war".

Besides, warfare has overthrown many governments you know.


Take a look here, and you'll find a lot of different things:
link (http://www.bellum.nu/literature.html)

just about general nation vs nation fighting.

False.
You'll find a lot of other stuff there.

[nightwatchman]

I beleive every leftist should have good understanding of Guerilla Warfare, I have been studying it for about a year now, and I beleive I have a good understanding on the subject.

I found this article as a great starter to get into the subject of Guerilla Warfare

http://www.insurgentdesire.org.uk/warfare.htm

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Yeah.. it's a good site.. been there mine times.. it's been around for years. It used to have more stuff on it.

Didn't we have a topic about this before?

[the_last_straw]

That really is an awesome site. I think crimethinc.com might have some but I'm not sure. In terms of making and using weapons, check the archives from parazite.org on tor.

[Janus]

I suppose the site is good for literature and learning the theories behind it but the armory doesn't help much at all.

By the way, why is this in Theory?

[Karl Marx's Camel]

Because reading and learning about an art/science is... mainly theoretical? I feel that way at least.

[Marion]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2006, 10:45 PM
I beleive every leftist should have good understanding of Guerilla Warfare, I have been studying it for about a year now, and I beleive I have a good understanding on the subject.

Must admit that I've got quite the odd bit of material on stuff connected to this, but do you all really think something like guerilla warfare is that important to learn up about? Is it really a likely reality wherever you live? If you are interested in that type of thing (not saying necessarily participating), do you have any questions over whether it is merely a form of vanguardism or substitutionism or are you not bothered?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that guerilla warfare skills may not be useful in the near future in some place where there is mass support for an uprising (thinking of the likes of the Zapatista uprising), but I'm guessing most of you are from Western countries.

To be honest, I'd put learning about guerilla warfare (though I admit it's quite cool and tempting) pretty near the bottom of any list of stuff I had to learn about. I sense I may be relatively on my own on this one...

[Karl Marx's Camel]

What would be on the top list Marion?

[public enemy#1]

:ph34r: lol

[Raj Radical]

I havent done *much* research into gureilla tactics, but from what ive found the most invaluable sources are actually counter-guerilla books by US generals etc.

Ive only read a bit of Che's book, but it seemed a bit outdated to me.

[farleft]

That makes good reading. Alot of it is common sense though, I especially liked this passage:

The urban guerilla band will never have the security that the "outdoor" guerrillas have, nor will they usually have the number of people involved in their day-to-day activities, still they will be able to maintain some sort of social ties to the outside world. This is both good and bad. It's a security risk anytime someone outside the group becomes familiar with one or more of it's members. The good part is that the guerrillas don't get lost in a fantasy world of revolution and can more accurately assess their situation and plan their actions accordingly.

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2006, 12:44 PM
Must admit that I've got quite the odd bit of material on stuff connected to this, but do you all really think something like guerilla warfare is that important to learn up about? Is it really a likely reality wherever you live? If you are interested in that type of thing (not saying necessarily participating), do you have any questions over whether it is merely a form of vanguardism or substitutionism or are you not bothered?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that guerilla warfare skills may not be useful in the near future in some place where there is mass support for an uprising (thinking of the likes of the Zapatista uprising), but I'm guessing most of you are from Western countries.

To be honest, I'd put learning about guerilla warfare (though I admit it's quite cool and tempting) pretty near the bottom of any list of stuff I had to learn about. I sense I may be relatively on my own on this one...
Nope, I agree, at this point, we are nowhere near a revolution in western countries.
In France there are serious tensions with the CPE (gone now) and the imigrant youth, but that will probabmy lead to a bit more rioting and that's it.
Revolution in the near future? my ass

There would have to be serious events causing lots of people to lose their jobs to make that possible.

[Marion]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 12:08 PM
What would be on the top list Marion?
Damn, NWOG, kinda hadn't given it any thought!

I'd be pretty loathe to tell anyone exactly what people should read, but I'd say that the most important thing for any person to do is 1) to get a good understanding about your own personal position and how you can struggle from it (or how you need to change it!) and, 2) to have some sort of idea about where you want to go (some theory or reading of struggles elsewhere).

From a personal point of view I'm trying to read up on radical education stuff (due to a return to education later this year) and try to supplement this with more general theory, history and some stuff on the Zapatistas.

Will post a thread on the literature section on this...

[razboz]

I'd just like to add that as wioth anything reading lots of literature on a subject can only get you so far. to really gain understanding on any topic you need to practice it. I dont know but im fairly certain that it is the case with warefare as with anything else.