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FidelCastro
27th June 2006, 05:54
I believe in the constitution, it stated that the American People are allowed to form Militas. I believe the KKK have capitalized Milita right, why don't Communists form legal militas for a possible revolution. I don't know, maybe it sounds stupid.

bezdomni
27th June 2006, 06:32
Revolutionary militias (ie, ones that intend to topple the government) are seditious and therefore illegal.

In fact, if you were found guilty of treason, you could receive the death penalty (see Sacco & Vanzetti).

FidelCastro
27th June 2006, 06:34
well I guess that is a bust.

bezdomni
27th June 2006, 06:55
Yep. There really isn't a way to do it legally.

If you were somehow able to get enough people sympathetic to the revolution in the government, then they might treat an actual revolutionary situation leniently or completely overlook it.

It would be interesting to watch a government kill itself.

STI
27th June 2006, 08:34
If you were somehow able to get enough people sympathetic to the revolution in the government

Don't bet your life on it.

People don't make it to positions high enough in the bourgeois state apparatus by having reputations for bieng "soft" on those who want to end the rulership of their bourgeois masters.

FinnMacCool
27th June 2006, 09:03
In fact, if you were found guilty of treason, you could receive the death penalty (see Sacco & Vanzetti).


I thought they were framed for robbing a bank or something.

Tekun
27th June 2006, 20:39
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2006, 06:04 AM

In fact, if you were found guilty of treason, you could receive the death penalty (see Sacco & Vanzetti).


I thought they were framed for robbing a bank or something.
Not quite....
They were Italian anarchists that were accused of murdering 2 ppl in a robbery, despite the fact that they both had alibi's
After they had been found guilty in a sham of a trial, they were tried for another robbery that had been committed earlier
Again they were found guilty in a unjust and ridiculous trial
The fact that they were active anarchists and Italian immigrants was a deciding factor in their convictions and later execution
Many of those who decided their fate were under the spell of the Red Scare of the 1920's, and the fact that both men were active in the anti-war movement enraged the jury and public

Another case demonstrating the ignorance of society when influenced by their gov

razboz
28th June 2006, 18:30
It would be interesting to watch a government kill itself.

Well thats what happened in Russia in between 1914 and 1917. When Nicolas abdicated an the new government was formedit was in act the monarchists who created the framework within which revolutionary bolsheviks and mensheviks and Social Revolutionaries could spread and implement their ideas.It was the Monarchists who brought down the monarchy: aristocrats, land owners, and even membersof the royal family.

"we are watching and uprecedented spectacle revolution from above rather than from below" said Grand Duke soemthing or another at the time.

bezdomni
28th June 2006, 20:18
Originally posted by Tekun+Jun 27 2006, 05:40 PM--> (Tekun @ Jun 27 2006, 05:40 PM)
[email protected] 27 2006, 06:04 AM

In fact, if you were found guilty of treason, you could receive the death penalty (see Sacco & Vanzetti).


I thought they were framed for robbing a bank or something.
Not quite....
They were Italian anarchists that were accused of murdering 2 ppl in a robbery, despite the fact that they both had alibi's
After they had been found guilty in a sham of a trial, they were tried for another robbery that had been committed earlier
Again they were found guilty in a unjust and ridiculous trial
The fact that they were active anarchists and Italian immigrants was a deciding factor in their convictions and later execution
Many of those who decided their fate were under the spell of the Red Scare of the 1920's, and the fact that both men were active in the anti-war movement enraged the jury and public

Another case demonstrating the ignorance of society when influenced by their gov [/b]
Yeah.

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg are also a good (hell, a better) example of bullshit "treason" charges.

afrikaNOW
29th June 2006, 00:43
how have the KKK capitalized the militia right? HAve they taken over anything?All they have done is kill innocent black people with their militia groups, whats so right about that?

anarchista feminista
29th June 2006, 12:53
off topic but this is all i have to say: the death penalty is WRONG.

chimx
29th June 2006, 19:17
my friends and i started a raan affiliated militia once a few years back. it was kind of fun and a good way to practice self-defense. we eventually got bored of shooting guns in the woods every weekend though and so it is no longer.