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Organic Revolution
11th May 2003, 03:13
why do the capitialists always clame that revolutionary movments and there groups are terrorists... if they think that they they are saying that there own counrty was built on terrorism.
Beccie
11th May 2003, 10:33
One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. It really depends on what the group is fighting for.
It really is a brilliant buzzword, Hitler's war on 'terror' was his war on partisans, Marx was known as the 'red terrorist doctor', and many men and women were called terrorists, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that one thing they said about Malcolm X?
Although this word does have a place in our lexicons (Bin Laden is obviously a terrorist), it does serve a purpose. This purpose it serves is perhaps its greatest attribute, the meaning of the word 'terrorist' is such that it is a perfect way to curtail any form of productive debat, this is what I found after September 11th 2001, newsreaders were asking "Why did this happen?" or "Why did they do this?", the quickest and easiest way to stop debate was to say "These damn terrorists hate our way of life!", rather than delve into the intricacies of US foreign policy.
The capitalist countries use the word 'terrorist' to quickly end debate such as "Are these revolutionaries correct? Does our system need to be replaced?". It's a simple enough thing to see, overcoming such a tactic is something that is not so simple, labels are hard to shake.
CubanFox
11th May 2003, 10:58
Technically the partisans were terrorists. Their job was to incite fear in fascist supporters and destroy/assassinate fascist things/people
Maybe so but as Commie01 said...
Quote: from Commie01 on 10:33 am on May 11, 2003
One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter. It really depends on what the group is fighting for.
atlanticche
11th May 2003, 13:30
terrorists are revolutionarys in their own right but still not a real revolutionary
they install terror to bring about a revolution not to be a part of a rewvolution Lenin wasn't a terrorist he was a revolutionary a man who was there and took part
he inherited what terrorists created
a country on the edge
terrorists knock a coutry into an unstable coutry inspiaring a revolution creating revolutionarys
technicaly terrorists are the revolutionarys great-grandfather
Organic Revolution
11th May 2003, 15:27
yes but they consider the elzn or the zaptista movment as terrorist cells.
MEXCAN
11th May 2003, 16:43
The Ezln is not on the list (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/rpt/fto/2001/5258.htm)
mentalbunny
11th May 2003, 17:41
From http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/rpt/fto/2001/5258.htm:
Legal Criteria for Designation
1.The organization must be foreign.
2.The organization must engage in terrorist activity as defined in Section 212 (a)(3)(B) of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
3.The organization’s activities must threaten the security of U.S. nationals or the national security (national defense, foreign relations, or (their italics) the economic interests) of the United States.
Guardia Bolivariano
11th May 2003, 18:48
Besides the political reasons for calling an organization "terrorist" It's also a cheap wayof making the masses close up to those groups cause all the "smart" people say they're the bad guys.
mentalbunny
11th May 2003, 21:43
GB, too fucking true.
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