Is It Racist?

[Mariam]

Is it racist to call some one by the colour of his skin in order to point him out of a group of others in which he's unique because of the same reason?? ;)

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 01:08 PM
Is it racist to call some one by the colour of his skin in order to point him out of a group of others in which he's unique because of the same reason?? ;)
In the same way it's prejudice to point someone out with by their hair colour or eye colour "look out for 'sarah' she's got blond hair"
. No, I don't think It's necessarily racist.

[kjt1981]

No, but if you were given the opportunity to get to know that person well and refused to because he/she is "the black one", thats racist. The majority of my mates are white, but a few weeks ago a carribean mate of mine went to a match with one of my white mates in my place, but as they had never met i told my white mate he was "a black lad" so he could recognise him easily, but thats not how i think about him privately or what he means to me - to me he's a big Dylan fan, a dirty Wolves fan, and a good laugh.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 02:38 PM
to me he's a big Dylan fan, a dirty Wolves fan, and a good laugh.
And a human :rolleyes:

[kjt1981]

yeah but you dont think about it in those terms do yer? goes without saying surely? Wouldnt go to gigs with him if he was a Dolphin or summat?!

Me: "now Gaz dont get me wrong, Blonde on Blondes a great album, i just think Bringing it all Back Homes superior"

Gaz the Dolphin: "tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk"




Sorry. Lowest form of wit.

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 01:08 PM
Is it racist to call some one by the colour of his skin in order to point him out of a group of others in which he's unique because of the same reason?? ;)
Why would it be?

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 02:55 PM
yeah but you dont think about it in those terms do yer? goes without saying surely?

I know, im just being annoying :P

[Mariam]

Why would it be?

Some people think that when you address someone accordinig to the colour of their skin is racist..
it happens all the time when you are trying to point out someone that is different like saying.."Look at that black guy walking down the street.."
apperently you dont know that "black guy" and thats way you used this kind of expression.. ;)

[Ol' Dirty]

Personaly, I think it's not racist to use one's skin color as a descriptor. However, saying that they are different than you due to the color of their skin, then tat is racism.

[kjt1981]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 05:16 PM

Why would it be?

Some people think that when you address someone accordinig to the colour of their skin is racist..
it happens all the time when you are trying to point out someone that is different like saying.."Look at that black guy walking down the street.."
apperently you dont know that "black guy" and thats way you used this kind of expression.. ;)
this is true actually - i remember a mate informing us at school that the new teacher was "the black one", being overheard by the headteacher and getting a total bollocking for it. Thing was he was possibly one of the most fair minded individuals on the planet. May even have been a member of the communist party, i know his dad was cuz i remember him lecturing me once for being into football ("fascist" he said it was. "nutjob" i said he was, although with age im beginning to see his point of view).

[Fidel Follower]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 02:55 PM
Wouldnt go to gigs with him if he was a Dolphin or summat?!

Me: "now Gaz dont get me wrong, Blonde on Blondes a great album, i just think Bringing it all Back Homes superior"

Gaz the Dolphin: "tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk tk"

Hahahahaha very funny comrade! I laughed for ages when i saw that! Niceone! :D
And i know it sounds abit 'snobbish' but it is really hard for my to talk about color of skin, i just dont see it anymore..! Black, white, whatever, all looks the same to me.

When refering to someone i who may look different in a majority of people with different skin, i talk about what clothes they wear instead.

Just my own view. :)

[Janus]

No, I don't think so. But if they were hinting that there was something inferior about it then it may be racist.

[EusebioScrib]

However, saying that they are different than you due to the color of their skin, then tat is racism.

No, people are different because of skin color. For instance, American blacks are different from Americna whites because of thier skin color. They are subject to racism, most live in extreme poverty.

It's not racist to say most American blacks live in the ghetto or most American blacks are poor, because this is an objectively true statement. What makes this statement racist is when your reasoning behind it is that because of their biology and genetics, they are poor or live in the ghetto.

Racism involves genetics and biology. Unless your reasoning is that their genetics or biology are inferior to yours, then it's probably not racist.

[Ol' Dirty]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2006, 12:50 AM





However, saying that they are different than you due to the color of their skin, then tat is racism.


No, people are different because of skin color.
Here we go... :rolleyes:

What I mean is, race has nothing to do with how good you are at sports, or how inteligent you are, or your genital size. Absolutely nothing.


For instance, American blacks are different from Americna whites because of thier skin color.

But that difference is only skin deep. I'm talking about deep personal things. Genetically, all people are 96.3% the same. Skin color is on one part of the massive genetic tree, lees than 1% I'm guessing. That can't possibly qualify people as different races. It's simply non-sensical


They are subject to racism, most live in extreme poverty.

Poverty is a social condition that has nothing to do with the color of one's skin. There a poor whites all over America, and rich blacks in every state.

The assumption that most American blacks live in extreme poverty is not true:

http://www.blackplanet.com/home/news/artic...ews_item_id=203 (http://www.blackplanet.com/home/news/article.html?news_item_id=203)

As for extreme poverty...

http://www.childrensdefense.org/pdf/extreme_poverty.pdf

Again, untrue.

No offense, but isn't the assumptiuon that most blacks are poor racist? I'm not saying that you are a racist, but this does mean that oyu have some stereotypes to work out.


It's not racist to say most American blacks live in the ghetto or most American blacks are poor, because this is an objectively true statement.

Racism

2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

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It is if you say it without checking your facts, saying something without any knoledge except baseless preconceptions of an ethnic group. :mellow:


What makes this statement racist is when your reasoning behind it is that because of their biology and genetics, they are poor or live in the ghetto.

No. Racism is social construct made of the belifs that either a. people are inhernently different due to the concept of race, and that b. these differences are inherently positive or negative.



Racism involves genetics and biology. Unless your reasoning is that their genetics or biology are inferior to yours, then it's probably not racist.

Race isn't real. Genetically, it doesn't exist. I'll give a link to another thread later.

[Ol' Dirty]

http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php...entry1292065430 (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=49265&st=75#entry1292065430)

[EusebioScrib]

Poverty is a social condition that has nothing to do with the color of one's skin. There a poor whites all over America, and rich blacks in every state.


Well it does. People of color are, generally speaking, in worse conditions than most whites. I'm discussing the ratio of poor to rich between skin colors. It's an unequal ratio, hence indicating that because people have different skins colors their social conditions are different, not because of something biologically in them, but because of racism.

It's not a big thing, just being a little nit picky.

Although it brings up interesting questions. Liberalism has taken over anti-racist issues and likes to make every tid-bit about racism, when it's fairly clear there is none taking place. For instance, anyone recall that Congress woman who was crying racism when a guard arrested her for not showing her ID? I think it's a stradegy they use to divide us via race. They try to make it look like all cries of racism are false and sneaky.

Liberalism seeks to claim that race is no longer an issue, when it is. People are still discriminated and oppressed because of their color.


No offense, but isn't the assumptiuon that most blacks are poor racist? I'm not saying that you are a racist, but this does mean that oyu have some stereotypes to work out.

It's not racist. Saying that most blacks are poor, because of racism isn't far form the truth. Because they are of a different skin color they are forced to be subject to worse conditions historically. I'm not indicating it's their own doing, it's the doing of forces ourside of their direct control. It's not their fault. Saying so would be racist. This is merely what I'm trying to explain.


The Black poverty rate - 24.7 percent - is almost twice that of the general population. About 9.4 million African Americans, almost one-in-four, lived below the poverty line in 2004. <<<< From your first link

One in four isn&#39;t "most" but the ratio is greater than that of whites, which is what I was trying to indicate.

However, the US Census Bureau, I believe, states that any household income below &#036;27,000 is the poverty line. From my experience, it is very difficult for any family to survive with an income less than &#036;40,000.

So I would think the poverty line is far greater than we&#39;re led to believe.