"there's No Enough Jobs!"

[R_P_A_S]

today i sat back in class and just heard the discussion amongst the students and the professor. One of them was going on a rant. saying that...

"There's not enough jobs! because America cares more about cheap laber in asia and latin america, than to provide jobs for its very own citizens."

an others agreed with him at the statement "There's not enough jobs"

this might be pretty bone-head to ask. but under communism would there be "enough jobs?" Yes? how? and also if Capitalism is all about profit and cheap labor why not just pay anyone shit just to do whatever. ofcourse for the well-being of the corporation&#33; <_<

How come there aren&#39;t enough jobs?

[R_P_A_S]

today i sat back in class and just heard the discussion amongst the students and the professor. One of them was going on a rant. saying that...

"There&#39;s not enough jobs&#33; because America cares more about cheap laber in asia and latin america, than to provide jobs for its very own citizens."

an others agreed with him at the statement "There&#39;s not enough jobs"

this might be pretty bone-head to ask. but under communism would there be "enough jobs?" Yes? how? and also if Capitalism is all about profit and cheap labor why not just pay anyone shit just to do whatever. ofcourse for the well-being of the corporation&#33; <_<

How come there aren&#39;t enough jobs?

[R_P_A_S]

today i sat back in class and just heard the discussion amongst the students and the professor. One of them was going on a rant. saying that...

"There&#39;s not enough jobs&#33; because America cares more about cheap laber in asia and latin america, than to provide jobs for its very own citizens."

an others agreed with him at the statement "There&#39;s not enough jobs"

this might be pretty bone-head to ask. but under communism would there be "enough jobs?" Yes? how? and also if Capitalism is all about profit and cheap labor why not just pay anyone shit just to do whatever. ofcourse for the well-being of the corporation&#33; <_<

How come there aren&#39;t enough jobs?

[which doctor]

Automation by machines of jobs that were previously held by humans.

The more the world becomes more industrialized the less overall jobs there will be.

[which doctor]

Automation by machines of jobs that were previously held by humans.

The more the world becomes more industrialized the less overall jobs there will be.

[which doctor]

Automation by machines of jobs that were previously held by humans.

The more the world becomes more industrialized the less overall jobs there will be.

[Dyst]

I think the main reason there isn&#39;t enough jobs is that much of the production is being automatized, so we don&#39;t really need human labour in order to create products, as machines can in fact do most of the work for us.

Of course, the system will partially regulate this itself, by constantly creating new markets and commodities, and therefore needing more human labour for mostly social work. I am not sure if it is keeping up with the rate of declining human labour needed for industrial (etc.) work, though.

Basicly it is the advancement of technology which makes the need for jobs decline.

This is important for communism in order for it to work. We see that, if the system worked differently, people wouldn&#39;t need to "work" at all (as in the sense of going to job 10 hours a day, 5 days a week), as almost all labour that is really needed will eventually be social labour. And social labour is mostly something people would do wether they had to or not (such as in a communist society).

[Dyst]

I think the main reason there isn&#39;t enough jobs is that much of the production is being automatized, so we don&#39;t really need human labour in order to create products, as machines can in fact do most of the work for us.

Of course, the system will partially regulate this itself, by constantly creating new markets and commodities, and therefore needing more human labour for mostly social work. I am not sure if it is keeping up with the rate of declining human labour needed for industrial (etc.) work, though.

Basicly it is the advancement of technology which makes the need for jobs decline.

This is important for communism in order for it to work. We see that, if the system worked differently, people wouldn&#39;t need to "work" at all (as in the sense of going to job 10 hours a day, 5 days a week), as almost all labour that is really needed will eventually be social labour. And social labour is mostly something people would do wether they had to or not (such as in a communist society).

[Dyst]

I think the main reason there isn&#39;t enough jobs is that much of the production is being automatized, so we don&#39;t really need human labour in order to create products, as machines can in fact do most of the work for us.

Of course, the system will partially regulate this itself, by constantly creating new markets and commodities, and therefore needing more human labour for mostly social work. I am not sure if it is keeping up with the rate of declining human labour needed for industrial (etc.) work, though.

Basicly it is the advancement of technology which makes the need for jobs decline.

This is important for communism in order for it to work. We see that, if the system worked differently, people wouldn&#39;t need to "work" at all (as in the sense of going to job 10 hours a day, 5 days a week), as almost all labour that is really needed will eventually be social labour. And social labour is mostly something people would do wether they had to or not (such as in a communist society).

[rebelworker]

There is always stuff to be done, unemployment is an important factor of capitalism.

If there are people out of work, waiting to take your job, you cant ask for too much money. Unions are one thing that has had an important effect on overiding this. Unions used to spend alot of energy organising the unemployed workers because they knew they were potential scabs and just "workers between jobs".

In communism veryone could work, there is always things that can be improved or developed, and when community good, not profit, is the driving force in the economy there is no reason why everyone who is capable shouldnt be working.

[bayano]

well, communism is one thing, and i really dont think its worth the effort to discuss our great distant utopian communist anarchist free society. but in a revolutionary/socialist society, there are several ways that jobs increase. firstly, employment is guaranteed to all those who will work (which, with revolutionary consciousness would be everyone). this isnt such a ludicrous concept, and in fact many bourgeois social democracies have this policy thanks to the efforts of militant unionists in decades past. automation is cut down since it generally is riddled with the mistakes that human labor doesnt make, industries will be more localized and less globalized, the disabled and elderly will be given jobs if they desire them, people will work fewer hours meaning more workers will be needed. this exists in some parts of the world, manifested in different ways between the socialism of cuba and the social democracy of some of the european union.

[Comrade-Z]

but under communism would there be "enough jobs?" Yes? how?

We could fix the problem even under capitalism if the capitalist class wanted to. Let&#39;s say there are 120 million people working in the U.S. currently, who are working an average of 40 hours per week. Thus, we can calculate that there are 120 million X 40 = 4800 million man-hours (sic) of necessary labor being accomplished in the U.S. every week. Let&#39;s say there are 10 million unemployed. All we would need to do is distribute those 4800 million man-hours (sic) among all of the employment-age population (130 million, in this example). That means, roughly speaking, it&#39;s only really necessary for people in the U.S. to work 4800 million / 130 million = 36.9 hours per week. Unemployment solved, and people get more time off from work. A win-win situation, right?

Well, yeah, for the vast majority of the population--just not the capitalist class. The capitalist class needs to maintain a "reserve army of the unemployed" to keep wages down. Rebelworker and others already explained how this works. Basically, if you as a worker know that there are others out there hungry for your job, you won&#39;t put up much fuss about wages and stuff.

In short, unemployment exists because it is useful and necessary to the capitalist class, not because of the "them good-fer-nuthin&#39; chinks stealin&#39; our American jobs..." bullshit. Under communism, there will be full employment for anyone who wants to work, and working hours per week will probably be even lower than they are now.

[Janus]

How come there aren&#39;t enough jobs?
Outsourcing and automation as others have said. Also, certain resources such as coal are dissappearing and therefore, jobs are lost in sectors such as that.