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Janus
22nd June 2006, 06:17
It seems that the US may finally be bowing down to some international pressure(the suicides may have had an impact) or they may have found more suitable prison camps to illegaly detain people.

Anyways, Bush has said that he wants to close the camp and return most of the inmates to their home countries. Of course, there are the rumors that many in Guntanamo have done nothing wrong and are connected to terrorism at all.

The US 'wants to end Guantanamo' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5102528.stm)

Janus
22nd June 2006, 06:17
It seems that the US may finally be bowing down to some international pressure(the suicides may have had an impact) or they may have found more suitable prison camps to illegaly detain people.

Anyways, Bush has said that he wants to close the camp and return most of the inmates to their home countries. Of course, there are the rumors that many in Guntanamo have done nothing wrong and are connected to terrorism at all.

The US 'wants to end Guantanamo' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5102528.stm)

Janus
22nd June 2006, 06:17
It seems that the US may finally be bowing down to some international pressure(the suicides may have had an impact) or they may have found more suitable prison camps to illegaly detain people.

Anyways, Bush has said that he wants to close the camp and return most of the inmates to their home countries. Of course, there are the rumors that many in Guntanamo have done nothing wrong and are connected to terrorism at all.

The US 'wants to end Guantanamo' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5102528.stm)

Entrails Konfetti
22nd June 2006, 06:37
That's just Bush saying that though, who knows how the congress will vote on it.
What interesting is that the US Gov denies that abuses are going on in there, yet conditions have caused inmates to commit suicide.

Also, he said he wants to try the remaining prisoners in US Courts, that just doesn't make sense, for one thing the offenses that the prisoners did in other countries might not have the same laws. So he's trying to get them convicted under US law, but they'd have to send them somewhere else for their sentance if he wants to close down Guatanamo Bay Prison. And that place where they'll serve their sentance might have different laws too. It just doesn't make sense.

This is just an annoyance, but he went to Hungary to commemorate the 1956 rebellion-- like there weren't Communists involved in the uprising. :huh:

Entrails Konfetti
22nd June 2006, 06:37
That's just Bush saying that though, who knows how the congress will vote on it.
What interesting is that the US Gov denies that abuses are going on in there, yet conditions have caused inmates to commit suicide.

Also, he said he wants to try the remaining prisoners in US Courts, that just doesn't make sense, for one thing the offenses that the prisoners did in other countries might not have the same laws. So he's trying to get them convicted under US law, but they'd have to send them somewhere else for their sentance if he wants to close down Guatanamo Bay Prison. And that place where they'll serve their sentance might have different laws too. It just doesn't make sense.

This is just an annoyance, but he went to Hungary to commemorate the 1956 rebellion-- like there weren't Communists involved in the uprising. :huh:

Entrails Konfetti
22nd June 2006, 06:37
That's just Bush saying that though, who knows how the congress will vote on it.
What interesting is that the US Gov denies that abuses are going on in there, yet conditions have caused inmates to commit suicide.

Also, he said he wants to try the remaining prisoners in US Courts, that just doesn't make sense, for one thing the offenses that the prisoners did in other countries might not have the same laws. So he's trying to get them convicted under US law, but they'd have to send them somewhere else for their sentance if he wants to close down Guatanamo Bay Prison. And that place where they'll serve their sentance might have different laws too. It just doesn't make sense.

This is just an annoyance, but he went to Hungary to commemorate the 1956 rebellion-- like there weren't Communists involved in the uprising. :huh:

rioters bloc
22nd June 2006, 06:41
it'll be interesting to see how this pans out

i wonder what 'reason' they'll give?

rioters bloc
22nd June 2006, 06:41
it'll be interesting to see how this pans out

i wonder what 'reason' they'll give?

rioters bloc
22nd June 2006, 06:41
it'll be interesting to see how this pans out

i wonder what 'reason' they'll give?

Martin Blank
22nd June 2006, 08:27
This should be filed under the heading of "Be careful what you wish for,...".

The U.S. has been constructing a larger version of the Guantanamo facility on the atoll of Diego Garcia since 2002. Shutting down Gitmo is as much a way to move the "detainees" out of sight from prying eyes as anything else. No more "surprises"; everything controlled and micromanaged.

Miles

Martin Blank
22nd June 2006, 08:27
This should be filed under the heading of "Be careful what you wish for,...".

The U.S. has been constructing a larger version of the Guantanamo facility on the atoll of Diego Garcia since 2002. Shutting down Gitmo is as much a way to move the "detainees" out of sight from prying eyes as anything else. No more "surprises"; everything controlled and micromanaged.

Miles

Martin Blank
22nd June 2006, 08:27
This should be filed under the heading of "Be careful what you wish for,...".

The U.S. has been constructing a larger version of the Guantanamo facility on the atoll of Diego Garcia since 2002. Shutting down Gitmo is as much a way to move the "detainees" out of sight from prying eyes as anything else. No more "surprises"; everything controlled and micromanaged.

Miles

WUOrevolt
24th June 2006, 02:42
When the US closed Abu Ghraib prison, they simply moved to a new one. So i think that if they were to even close down Guantanamo, another prison would simply take its place. I wouldn't get too excited if I were you.

WUOrevolt
24th June 2006, 02:42
When the US closed Abu Ghraib prison, they simply moved to a new one. So i think that if they were to even close down Guantanamo, another prison would simply take its place. I wouldn't get too excited if I were you.

WUOrevolt
24th June 2006, 02:42
When the US closed Abu Ghraib prison, they simply moved to a new one. So i think that if they were to even close down Guantanamo, another prison would simply take its place. I wouldn't get too excited if I were you.

Comrade Don
24th June 2006, 03:26
So if they do leave the base, Will it be returned to Cuba?

Comrade Don
24th June 2006, 03:26
So if they do leave the base, Will it be returned to Cuba?

Comrade Don
24th June 2006, 03:26
So if they do leave the base, Will it be returned to Cuba?

internet andy
24th June 2006, 12:56
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 11:43 PM
When the US closed Abu Ghraib prison, they simply moved to a new one. So i think that if they were to even close down Guantanamo, another prison would simply take its place. I wouldn't get too excited if I were you.
As WUOrevolt said, they'd just be moved somewhere else. Probably Eastern Europe where full blown torture takes place.

Si Pinto
24th June 2006, 13:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2006, 05:28 AM
The U.S. has been constructing a larger version of the Guantanamo facility on the atoll of Diego Garcia since 2002.
Someone mentioned that to me the other day.

Do you have a link to the story?

I'd like to read up on it.

Karl Marx's Camel
24th June 2006, 15:33
I honestly do not see anything positive to that. They'll just move them to European og middle eastern secret prisons, and there it won't get any coverage. And besides, more people will want the whole Guantanamo bay closed if these people are imprisoned there.

I see that as quite important: the closure of the whole U.S. controlled part of Guantanamo.

Mariam
24th June 2006, 15:45
So if they do leave the base, Will it be returned to Cuba?

That's the first thing that came to my mind..

But sure there is nothing good about it..who knows where else on earth the US will take those hundreds of people..Im sure they'll find some where worst but with less midea interference. However, it's not fair to pack them up to the US and convict them according to their laws..most of them dont know what the charges are..

And about Abu Gharib and all that stir that it made..it was just because the Arab media and even the viewer was not used to such things..yes, they heard about all that horrible things that Sadam did and they heard about those terrible prisons in Libya or Algeirs but no one had ever seen it..