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truthaddict11
9th May 2003, 14:44
http://www.kfor.com/global/story.asp?s=125...tType=Printable (http://www.kfor.com/global/story.asp?s=1250476&ClientType=Printable)

Secret exposure: U.S. tested chemical weapons on own citizens

KEVIN OGLE reports

Updated: April 25, 2003 12:51 PM

Earlier this year news that the army would conduct bio-terrorism tests in central Oklahoma sent a near panic through some communities.

Clouds of clay dust and other substances were dropped to see if weather radar could detect a bio-terrorist attack. The army was up front and told those concerned what they were doing and promised there was nothing to worry about.

But it hasn't always been that way when the army was testing the atmosphere.

Oklahoma City and a local solider endured a secret exposure.

It was in the 1950s and America was in the height of the Cold War.

The United States and the Soviet Union were locked in a deadly race to produce the most powerful nuclear bombs. A cartoon turtle taught the children what to do in case the Soviets attacked.

Air raid drills were staged in every classroom and city across America. Little did Americans know they were already under attack -- by America.

"The human populations didn't know, the local governments didn't know, this was a secret army project that went on for 20 years," said author Leonard Cole.

The U.S. government was preparing for germ warfare by secretly spraying biological agents on its own citizens. The tests were conducted in 239 cities, including one of Oklahoma's most prominent communities.

"Among the hundreds and hundreds of tests that the army did, Stillwater, Oklahoma was targeted," said Cole, an expert on the Army's development of biological weapons. In some cities reports indicate Americans actually died because of the testing.

Government records show florescent particles of zinc cadmium sulfide were released in Stillwater in 1962.

"Cadmium itself is known to be one of the most highly toxic materials in small amounts that a human can be exposed to," Cole said.

Could Oklahomans have been made sick by that all those years ago could they still have lingering effects from it?

"If there were concentrations of it enough to make one sick, you could have serious consequences a person over a period of time could have illnesses that could range from cancer to organ failures," Cole said.

There was no medical monitoring of the population exposed to the particles and Payne County health officials have no records to show the affect, if any, on the people in the Stillwater area.

But different secret exposure tests would forever change the lives of other 0klahomans.

Arnold Parks of Oklahoma City loves to work in his yard. But he does it on painful legs and with aching arms, not to mention a bad heart. In 1965 Arnold was in the army when he was told he was going to be a test subject for some new medications.

But when he recently was given access to his medical records from 1965 he was stunned to learn those "medications" were anything but.

"And it states right in there on this date they gave me VX, on this date they gave me Sarin, on this date they gave me LSD," Parks said. "I was angry. As a matter of fact, I came unglued."

It hasn't been medically linked yet, but Parks now believes the small doses of the nerve agents Sarin and VX have affected his arms, legs and heart over the years.

"The VX they gave, it was a pill. And I asked the guy after I took that, you know, I asked him what was that? He said, 'Thats the new pill for polio.' "

And what Parks wrote down as terrible dreams during those two months of testing he now knows were hallucinations brought on by the LSD. Some of those hallucinations involved murder.

"Some of these hallucinations got a little bit scary," he said. "I think I had about four and the only one that was OK was the one that I watched this movie, it was a love story on TV. But there was no TV in the room, so I couldn't have watched that movie on TV. So it was all an acid trip, basically it was a trip but the other three was the killing things."

Parks believes after more than 35 years it's time the army made good for what they did to him. But, he's resigned to the fact that some things won't change.

"Pay me compensation," he said. "I want that and I would like to be treated. But I don't think they can treat this."

A spokesperson for the Veteran's Administration said once there is a medical link confirming the testing is to blame for Park's ailments, then he has a case. But, they say, not until then.

Anonymous
9th May 2003, 14:47
This is just another reason why i hate the american government....

Hampton
9th May 2003, 16:25
They also used them with the attack on Waco.

Republican Guard
9th May 2003, 16:28
Yup... and every ounce of biological and chemical weapons Saddam ever used had a big "Made with pride in the USA" emblem on it.

s.

GuErRrIlLa
9th May 2003, 16:46
Something I should disscuse in my history class today

Lefty
9th May 2003, 20:28
Something I DID discuss in my history class today.

Popular consensus was that it was justified.

Subcomandante Marcos
9th May 2003, 21:02
I would like to see them test this weapond on the white house. Or is there a difference between the civilians living on the cities and the politicians living in the white house ??

The army is crazy, how can they pull something like that on the people. There is something wrong in their mind, something tells them they are superior and civilian death are acceptable in order to protect them ?!?!?!?!?! Is it that they are protecting people by killing them ?

CubanFox
10th May 2003, 00:30
The British tested their nukes on Australian soldiers in the Nullarbor. Remember, the whole "turn around and the bad radiation won't get you" thing?

Dirty Jersey
10th May 2003, 03:18
dont forget the 100 thousand plus allied soldiers who got gulf war syndrome when we decided to battle test spent uranium ammuniton. first it was 'oh you soldiers are full of shit'. then it was 'ok maybe a few of you are sick'. now its 'ok, ok maybe we shouldnt have used you guys as guinea pigs, but we had to know for sure. enjoy you night sweats.'

Droes lee
10th May 2003, 10:51
and the uranium they use in the tank sabots???!!!

Iepilei
10th May 2003, 20:52
The US army also tested chemical gas over San Fransisco as well as in the NYC subway system. Their justification? To see if they could be used as a method of attack against the Soviets (cause the soviet union had massive subway systems).

MKUltra and Operation Midnight Climax are other examples of military experimentation with the populus. LSD was also used on British and Austrialian troops.

Umoja
10th May 2003, 21:21
They sent my Grandfathers black marine unit over to Japan after they dropped the bomb because they weren't sure of the effect.

Also, this testing of weapons on people like this leads me to believe that AIDS really was manmade.

notyetacommie
12th May 2003, 07:46
As probably SARS is. Do you remember who was the first to die of it? An AMERICAN businessman travelling from Shanghai to Hongkong. Where had he been before? US???

Wolfie
12th May 2003, 16:18
yeah, and the CIA strated that web rumor about the chinese govt starting it to kep down the population.

Republican Guard
12th May 2003, 17:04
There have been some very serious studies on the possiblity of AIDS as a man-made weapon.

http://www.universalway.org/aidsmanmade.html

http://www.netowne.com/conspiracy/konformi...manmadeaids.htm (http://www.netowne.com/conspiracy/konformist/manmadeaids.htm)

s.

Luna
12th May 2003, 17:08
usa government is dangerous and so is the american people who puts bastards like bush to power. america is a patriotic nation that will do anything in the name of liberty. But it's bullshit because the only thing that rules america is money and power.

atlanticche
12th May 2003, 17:17
the US government does care about liberty
their LIBERTY

Harmless Games
13th May 2003, 01:00
Ok, well i dont understand soem of the points your making, your saying that the U$ Gov. started rumors that were "unjustafiable" that the chinese goverment started SARS to keep the population down, and here you all then turn and say, "The US goverment started SARS and AIDS" i see some "proof" that we started aids, but the SARS's thing is just a rumor you are unjustafiably starting. So please dont by hypocrites.

notyetacommie
13th May 2003, 02:24
And the fact that the first registered SARS-infected patient was a US citisen is also made up? It couldn't come out of nowhere, so it's logical to assume that either Chinese or the Americans started it. Funnily enough, it all broke out right before the Iraq campaign. To get the Chinese distracted so they won't mess up with the US on the issue? It's just a guess, yes, but with the US reputation I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be true- after all US has withdrawn from all international treaties concerning chemical and biological WMD. What was the reason for that? To say afterwards that hey are not liable to be sued as they were part of no treaty? If you can offer any other logical reason for breaking the international treaties (while screwing Iraq for allegedly having-guess what-US-made WMD!)

sypher
13th May 2003, 04:01
Quote: from Wolfie on 10:18 pm on May 12, 2003
yeah, and the CIA strated that web rumor about the chinese govt starting it to kep down the population.


I heard one about how the Chinese government created sars to get back at japan for attacking them before WW2 funny shit, ya?

Kapitan Andrey
13th May 2003, 05:45
WOW!?

In our civ. war, bolshevicks used gases against peasant rebellion...MASS DEATH...that's why I hate them!

Republican Guard
13th May 2003, 15:54
Some interesting background on the history of American use of chemical and biological weapons.

http://free.freespeech.org/americanstatete...Bioweapons.html (http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/weapons/US-Bioweapons.html)

s.

praxis1966
14th May 2003, 06:23
Quote: from Luna on 5:08 pm on May 12, 2003
usa government is dangerous and so is the american people who puts bastards like bush to power.
If you knew anything about the last election you wouldn't be saying this. The American people didn't elect Bush, the Supreme Court selected him. The American people elected Al Gore. Try reading the Miami Herald Report before you indict an entire nation of people as war criminals. You fucking idiot.

(Edited by praxis1966 at 12:26 pm on May 14, 2003)

praxis1966
14th May 2003, 06:38
Also, this testing of weapons on people like this leads me to believe that AIDS really was manmade.I don't know if it was man-made, but it was definately man-spread (intentionally). If anyone would like to hear my theories on this, holla back at me.