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AutumnWindIsARaider
20th June 2006, 06:48
And what if the Muslims are right? What if the Hindus are right? What if Taoists are right? What if the multitudes of other religions not in line with Christianity are right?

Then I guess we're screwed!

I think it's arrogant of us as a people, to think that our tiny brains can even contemplate what is out there. We can't understand eternity. We understand so little, but yet we think we know it all. I will go on the record as saying that I don't think we're even capable of understanding what's after death. But humans like easy explanations, so we cling to religion.

In all realistic-ness, we're probably all way off.

kaaos_af
20th June 2006, 06:52
You are right. My belief? Go nihilist. Smash all your values and get pissed. Sympathy, morality, dignity, piss off!

CubaSocialista
20th June 2006, 08:05
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:49 AM
And what if the Muslims are right? What if the Hindus are right? What if Taoists are right? What if the multitudes of other religions not in line with Christianity are right?

Then I guess we're screwed!

I think it's arrogant of us as a people, to think that our tiny brains can even contemplate what is out there. We can't understand eternity. We understand so little, but yet we think we know it all. I will go on the record as saying that I don't think we're even capable of understanding what's after death. But humans like easy explanations, so we cling to religion.

In all realistic-ness, we're probably all way off.
And that is the most thought-out spiritual worldview that we as humans can achieve. We must admit we know nothing, and see this world in practical senses, leaving the metaphysical to individual contemplation. We must apply utilitarianism and humanism to Society. The decline of religion is in no way proven related to rises in crime, or "immoral conduct."

No sex education, no abortions... You're gonna have a lot of unwanted and unprovided for kids.

adenoid hynkel
20th June 2006, 09:09
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:49 AM
And what if the Muslims are right? What if the Hindus are right? What if Taoists are right? What if the multitudes of other religions not in line with Christianity are right?

Then I guess we're screwed!

I think it's arrogant of us as a people, to think that our tiny brains can even contemplate what is out there. We can't understand eternity. We understand so little, but yet we think we know it all. I will go on the record as saying that I don't think we're even capable of understanding what's after death. But humans like easy explanations, so we cling to religion.

In all realistic-ness, we're probably all way off.
Pal, I think that you are obviously a little bit confused; In the opening post of the thread Are you a proud liberal? you said;

We all sin from God's standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client


If you cannot know, as you say if Christianity is right, then how do you know which are "" God's standards""?

Forward Union
20th June 2006, 14:16
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:49 AM
I don't think we're even capable of understanding what's after death. But humans like easy explanations, so we cling to religion.
After death? well your body will begin to decompose, your flesh, muscles ect will rot away, leaving your skeleton, which will probably hold up a little longer than the rest of you, but will crumble away eventually. No need to worry, you won't be able to comprehend any of this, because your brain wont function anymore.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Free Left
20th June 2006, 15:00
And what if the Muslims are right? What if the Hindus are right? What if Taoists are right? What if the multitudes of other religions not in line with Christianity are right?

Most major World religions believe in the same God. Islam, Judaism, Christianity are basically the same. Hinduism is actually pretty similiar as well.


Then I guess we're screwed!

Not if you're an Atheist! :)

Forward Union
20th June 2006, 15:01
Originally posted by Free [email protected] 20 2006, 12:01 PM
Most major World religions believe in the same God. Islam, Judaism, Christianity are basically the same. Hinduism is actually pretty similiar as well.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same God, and basic scripture, Hinduism is sperate, but yea, still similar.

RevMARKSman
20th June 2006, 15:35
In response to the title - No...If you think God exists, prove it.

CubaSocialista
20th June 2006, 18:55
Originally posted by Additives Free+Jun 20 2006, 12:02 PM--> (Additives Free @ Jun 20 2006, 12:02 PM)
Free [email protected] 20 2006, 12:01 PM
Most major World religions believe in the same God. Islam, Judaism, Christianity are basically the same. Hinduism is actually pretty similiar as well.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same God, and basic scripture, Hinduism is sperate, but yea, still similar. [/b]
According to wikipedia, there are Pantheist Hindus; that is, they believe that all their Gods are avatars/personalities of one great entity.

Just saying. There is a form of Hindu monotheism.

Forward Union
20th June 2006, 19:17
Originally posted by CubaSocialista+Jun 20 2006, 03:56 PM--> (CubaSocialista @ Jun 20 2006, 03:56 PM)
Originally posted by Additives [email protected] 20 2006, 12:02 PM

Free [email protected] 20 2006, 12:01 PM
Most major World religions believe in the same God. Islam, Judaism, Christianity are basically the same. Hinduism is actually pretty similiar as well.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same God, and basic scripture, Hinduism is sperate, but yea, still similar.
According to wikipedia, there are Pantheist Hindus; that is, they believe that all their Gods are avatars/personalities of one great entity.

Just saying. There is a form of Hindu monotheism. [/b]
True. But it's still not the same god as Christianity, Islam Judaism, or based on the same scripture. :rolleyes:

ummProfessional
21st June 2006, 02:59
well Muslims regard Jesus as an important Prophet, just like "we" of the Christian world regard Moses as an important person or prohet i guess even though he was a Jew and didn't even know what Christianity was obviously since it came with the birth of Jesus...yeah Hinduism does believe on those sort of things, even though they have like a gazillion gods they just think it's the representation of the "one" force...so that one force just represents itself in those gazillion other dieties or whatever...

ummProfessional
21st June 2006, 03:04
one more thing, it's true that there are many unexplainable things, in fact things that would make anyone sane actually believe it was done by some supernatural being, but there is so much we can really understand, there is so much out there in the endless infinite space that makes you wonder, maybe there are other intelligent beings out there who know anwsers to what we find as unexplainable...what we can't understand as hard as we try can maybe be explained rather easily by another intelligent being......i personally believe in UFO's...call me crazy if anyone wants but if there is anything i believe without actually seeing them its UFO's, i mean just by common sense and reason they have to exist..

CubaSocialista
21st June 2006, 06:36
Originally posted by Additives Free+Jun 20 2006, 04:18 PM--> (Additives Free @ Jun 20 2006, 04:18 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 20 2006, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by Additives [email protected] 20 2006, 12:02 PM

Free [email protected] 20 2006, 12:01 PM
Most major World religions believe in the same God. Islam, Judaism, Christianity are basically the same. Hinduism is actually pretty similiar as well.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have the same God, and basic scripture, Hinduism is sperate, but yea, still similar.
According to wikipedia, there are Pantheist Hindus; that is, they believe that all their Gods are avatars/personalities of one great entity.

Just saying. There is a form of Hindu monotheism.
True. But it's still not the same god as Christianity, Islam Judaism, or based on the same scripture. :rolleyes: [/b]
Oh yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to say they were of the Abrahamic creed of religions. Just that they had bearings of monotheism.