Situation in former Yugoslavia

[Gojo]

I'm from one of the former Yugoslav republics Croatia wich is to my own and almost everybody elses dissapointment a EU satelite country with almost no independence in decission making (political and economic) So the logical conclusion is that IT ISN'T A COUNTRY AT ALL, it's a whore. My, once proud socialist country is today a country where there are more people on the streets DAILY, a country where HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of workers from once huge and profitable factories and enterprises ARE WITHOUT JOBS living "on the edge" from day to day(belive me, cause I'm speaking from my own family experience), and I could go on like this endlessly...but that's not the point. The point is that the capitalist propaganda has done a great job in the last 16 years since it grabed the power from the people and gave it to few local devil incarnates and the majority to the EU interest section. That dirty sons of *****es spread their blatant lies in every corner of the country; how communism was bad and how capitalism is great. The problem is that the masses take this lightly, meaning that they KNOW it isn't true but having no real iniciative or the necessary organisation to oposse them.
They have gone so far that it's a real enterprise to join the comunist party which exists but is totaly hands tied and with the lack of funding it can do little to gather more members. Though I have to say that thing are moving forward lately but it's a logical development due to the DAILY worsening conditions in every single aspect of life.
Well, I have written all this to inform of things in Croatia and South Europe(it's the same) and to give you just one more, in the sea of examples, what capitalism does to men who once swore loyalty to our president TITO and CP of Yugoslavia.

All opinions, critics, advices are more that welcome... :ph34r:

[PRC-UTE]

Thank you for informing us on your situation.

I know some Bosnians who left the former Yugoslavia and they still had pro-socialist views. They lived through some horrendous events.

As someone living openly as a socialist, do you find yourself ever harrassed by the various nationalist groups?

[Gojo]

belive me, I'm not living THAT openly as a socialist. To give you a hint about the situation here in Croatia; just today, few minutes before I wrote this, I recived an email from one of the biggest Croatian forums, saying that I must imedately delete my avatar because it's a small hammer and sickle. Belive me, it's so small that it can't be offending anyone, and it's not like I posted some communist propaganda.
To give you another example, one has around 75 per cent chance that he/she will get some serious beating if walking trough the city centre(or anywhere else) with a smallest red star or any kind of communist insignia.
Since the fall of communism our countries(mostly our youths) are rapidly falling into nationalism, facism, drug abuse, all present shameless capitalist propaganda...you get my point. All those stuff may seem to you like normal, but belive me, those stuff became normal here 16 years ago.

...though as I said things are moving a BIT forward because now, besides growing nazi skinheads movement, young people, mostly students are developing a growing conciusnes on what the capitalist system had done and is doing to our country

[Ander]

That's very interesting...I thought many in Yugoslavia wanted a return to the old days.

Why don't you post in my Tito thread in the History forum? I'm looking for some people to comment on him.

[Si Pinto]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2006, 07:06 AM
belive me, I'm not living THAT openly as a socialist. To give you a hint about the situation here in Croatia; just today, few minutes before I wrote this, I recived an email from one of the biggest Croatian forums, saying that I must imedately delete my avatar because it's a small hammer and sickle.
Gojo, from your experience is the situation worse in Croatia than it is in Serbia or Bosnia?

From the reading I've done about it (which I'm sure doesn't begin to add-up to your experience), the right wing element is more obvious in Croatia than elsewhere in the former Yugoslavia.

[wogboy]

Hello all, this is my very first post.

It has taken me 4 years of research to come to grips with the FYU. The story is a tragedy, when in fact it could have been a success.

As far as communism is concerned, I believe that Yugoslavia was strangled. I know what living standards are like in Bosnia and serbia and I can say that most people struggle. Unemployment is high, the youth cannot find work and are dissolusioned. The Political system is split in 3 and nobody works together at a fedaral level. Corruption has been institutionalised and as usual, its the people who suffer the most.

The worst element of the Balkan wars has been ethno-nationalism. What upsets me the most is that people did not harbour these "historic hatreds" of one another. This was just the lie used by the west to encourage separation.

I have read about post WW2 reconstruction. The people rebuilt that whole country. Morale was so high and although they were hard times, belief existed amongst everybody. These same people watched their country, all that hard work go up in flames.

Yugoslavs still exist, although they may not come forward. It's hard to erase those values of "brotherhood and unity" completely, especially when people yearn for a return to better days.

I do not have time to write anymore, but i would like to email some Yugoslavs and keep posting on this forum.

[wogboy]

This is probably one of the most relevant articles on FYU I have ever come accross.

http://www.zmag.org/CrisesCurEvts/yugoslavia.htm

First came economic collapse (instigated by the west).

Then the west was instramental in dismantaling the JNA (powerful multi-ethnic army)

Then, all that "ethno-nationalism" was promoted afterwards. There is a cause-effect relationship. Nationalists incited people against each other to grab resources that belonged to Yugoslavia. Greed, money and power.

[Gojo]

Originally posted by Si Pinto+Jun 28 2006, 09:26 PM--> (Si Pinto @ Jun 28 2006, 09:26 PM)
[email protected] 21 2006, 07:06 AM
belive me, I'm not living THAT openly as a socialist. To give you a hint about the situation here in Croatia; just today, few minutes before I wrote this, I recived an email from one of the biggest Croatian forums, saying that I must imedately delete my avatar because it's a small hammer and sickle.
Gojo, from your experience is the situation worse in Croatia than it is in Serbia or Bosnia?

From the reading I've done about it (which I'm sure doesn't begin to add-up to your experience), the right wing element is more obvious in Croatia than elsewhere in the former Yugoslavia. [/b]
The situation in all former Yugoslav republics is, without a bit of exageration, cathastrophical. Croatia is, after Slovenia the most developed of the republics but the situation in Croatia is VERY BAD and it's extremly worsening for the majority of the people.
Croats have indeed the most present nationalism, though Serbs are not far behind. After president Tito died everything began to fall apart because of the lack of authority and a certain amount of the personality cult that is(was) neaded. After 1985. everything those FEW nationalist grew in power, by Yugoslav Communist Party's fault. They failed to see the threat of nationalism after Kosovo crisis in Serbia and without any doubt the Western influence dealt the final blow.

The main reason Yugoslavia COULD NOT SURVIVE AND WAS NOT ALLOWED TO EXIST is because in the "new" Europe Capitalists, mainly from US intrest section, NEEDED NEW MARKETS TO FEED ON and they picked once growing and no doubt succeding communist block.

Today, as I already said, sex, drugs and "total capitalist kind of freedom" rules the streets, people and the goverment.

You people know alot about life in communism and life in capitalism and this forum is a great place to share those experiences BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW IT IS LIKE TO LOSE SOMETHING AS GREAT AND HOLY AS YUGOSLAVIA WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE.

Yugoslavs are in every day growing numbers and make the huge majority of the people but huge ANTI-communist propaganda that was enforced by the nationalist goverment in early 90's done it's part and people today are simply afraid to take things into their own hands, meaning to brign communism back to these countries.

I'll try to sum up the whole capitalist propaganda in former Yugoslavia:

THEY(people) ARE CONSTATLY BEING TOLD THAT IN A NEW ERA OF CAPITALISM AS THE BEST MODEL OF DEMOCRACY THERE CAN NEVER BE COMMUNISM BECAUSE IT IS WITHOUT DOUBT ABSOLETE AND COULD NEVER WORK AGAIN. GLOBALISATION AND EU MEMBERSHIP WILL BRING US GREAT PROSPERITY AND WEALTH. WE SHOULD NOT LOOK BACK TO THE PAST WHEN WE HAVE GREAT FUTURE AHEAD.

At the same time families are being evicted, people are being thrown out on the streets, hospitals can't afford to pay electricity bills, doctors, teachers, fishermen, policemen, dock workers, industry workers are on strike EVERY DAY they demand same things for the last 16 years since the downfall of communism. MORE AND MORE Homeless people are eating out of trash cans while rich tourists play golf and trown in ELITE parties in their huge manssions. They buy WHOLE ISLANDS, land, apartments, hotels, houses and we(let's say 85%) can no longer afford ourselves any of those things. They clear up our dirty and devastated beaches, round it up with barbed wire and than they enjoy the sea while we work to try to afford an hour on the internet per day.

I could write stuff like this forever but just to give you one example of how the things are I'll tell you that yesterday I was in the hospital for an examination and me and my friend hanged around the hospital complex to see if we can find ANYTHING NEW, meaning anything bought(donated, to be honest, my country does not buy anything that is for the people) AFTER THE BREAK UP OF YUGOSLAVIA. WE COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING BESIDES telephones and garbage bins.

[wogboy]

Gojo, Comrade,

I feel like I just stumbled accross somebody who has felt the way I have for quite some time. Everything you have written describes the situation on FYU, and as I said, its destruction was worse than a tragedy.

To put everything you said in context, the general population in all the other republics believe Croatia is so much better off (the picture is grim indeed).

I have a very close friend living in Bosnia, who over the years has described the situation the same as you. The health system is attrocious becasue of poor funding. Specialists are in short supply becasue the most talented try so hard to escape the harsh realities of life (they emigrate to places like France, Sweden, Germany, Holland). Even if you are lucky to get care, you often have to pay a bribes and standard treatmenst are often unavailable.

There is massive nostalga about Yugoslavia. People want better lives and I don't blame them.

[Gojo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2006, 08:06 AM
Gojo, Comrade,

I feel like I just stumbled accross somebody who has felt the way I have for quite some time. Everything you have written describes the situation on FYU, and as I said, its destruction was worse than a tragedy.

To put everything you said in context, the general population in all the other republics believe Croatia is so much better off (the picture is grim indeed).

I have a very close friend living in Bosnia, who over the years has described the situation the same as you. The health system is attrocious becasue of poor funding. Specialists are in short supply becasue the most talented try so hard to escape the harsh realities of life (they emigrate to places like France, Sweden, Germany, Holland). Even if you are lucky to get care, you often have to pay a bribes and standard treatmenst are often unavailable.

There is massive nostalga about Yugoslavia. People want better lives and I don't blame them.
I'm glad to see that people outside of the east europe borders are pretty well informed about our balkan chatastrophy.

We could really make people see the big picture of all the things capitalism has done and will be doing to our countries if just few people per city could organise and print out thousands of papers that would, in one page describe and name all the things that are the product of the very system-capitalism and than convince people to vote for the only ones who would really do something-socialist workers party.

[wogboy]

The problem my friend is that people in the west generally have no idea about the Balkans. Mass media doesnt talk about the hardships and realities of life. Instead, people come to believe that Western intervention is necessary becasue balkan people love to hate each other.

I am quite fortunate becasue I have worked with ex-Yugoslavs for 10 or so years. These are people who migrated ages ago and can see the sharp differences when they travel abroad today.

The situation (post Dayton) is not self sustaining. I read on forums, hear from friends that people have become withdarwn and nostalgic. They yearn for better times.

Communism came to Yugoslavia in unique circumstances. People were united through war, not divided as we see now. To unite them again, you need a long-term economic strategy. Change is no good unless it is self sustaining. You also need funding, and another world player is needed (the USSR doesnt exist, the EU and USA are quite happy with the staus quo).

Realistically, pushing for leadership change and a return to values of equality (brotherhood and unity) could be possible. People just need to unite.

[Gojo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2006, 01:54 AM

Realistically, pushing for leadership change and a return to values of equality (brotherhood and unity) could be possible. People just need to unite.
I always like to hear words like these cause they really show you that there is always hope, though hope in Balkans is a very pale and far away thing.

[wogboy]

Gojo, comrade,

I would like to know more about Fikret Abdic if you have information, particularly since you are living in Croatia.

What do people generally think about him?

[Gojo]

To be honest, few people know about him...the whole yu thing is simply being pushed to oblivion by the ruling system.

[-Red_Star-]

Hey i am also from former Yugoslavia! Bosnia! :D
Well ok now the situations. The best of is Slovenia and probably the worst is Serbia. Serbia has now got a lot of crime etc Also the nationalist vote is more and more popular in Serbia. Even though King Alexander sold the nation off to hitler(during WW2) and gave all the Yugoslav jewels to Switzerland(which we never got back) Chetniks still praise him and hate Tito. When it was Tito who gave them this great lifestyle. And the vote in Croatia was 'would you want Yugoslavia back if was to be like it was?' and 82% voted yes.
I believe Tito was a great man and one of the greatest leaders, while he was in charge everyone had what they needed.

[wogboy]

A friend of mine told me a similar story. On Croatian television the question was asked along the lines:

Who is more important to Croatia, Tudgeman the first president, or Tito.

Everytime the poll is given, Tito always wins.

I have studied world history for most of my life. There are leaders that I admire, but Tito is in a league of his own (a true champion amongst men).

Red Star, where abouts in Bosnia are you from?

[Phalanx]

My family is from Dubrovnik, and although many of my older relatives are quite racist towards Serbs, they all admire Tito. Many acknowledge that Tudjman was too extreme, while saying that Tito held together the Yugoslav tinderbox.

As a Croat-American, I have to say I support Croatian independence, but I also will have to point out that as soon as any semblence of socialism fell in Yugoslavia, chaos reigned. The Tito days are better than the current situation.

[wogboy]

Gojo, how much of Croatia has actually been privatised? Do you know?

[BobKKKindle$]

Your concerns are very interesting to read about comrade; It makes me think that I am lucky to be able to discuss my own political views openly with my teachers and friends without fear of harassement or physical danger. The fact that you hold to your views in a climate of opposition and hatred is something to be really proud of!

Yugoslavian modern History interests me greatly because, from what I have read, Yugoslavia is one of the few places where worker's self management has been implmemented on a large scale, even if the party cadre organisation did sometimes infringe upon the sovereignty of work councils. How do people in the former Yugoslav republics feel about workers losing the ability to control their workplaces? According to Marxist theory, people would not suffer the same alienation that occurs under Capitalism if they had the ability to control the means of production socially and had ownership of the commodities that they produced. I would appreciate any information you have.

I think Yugoslavia was also an outstanding example of how people can recognize that nationality and ethnicity are imagined socially-constructed ideologies and can unite in solidarity with their fellow proletarians. It is very disheartening to see the Balkans filled once again with hatred after so much was accomplished in the Yugoslav Socialist Federation.

Thanks for posting comrade, I always enjoy reading personal accounts of people's experiences on this site.


Communism came to Yugoslavia in unique circumstances. People were united through war, not divided as we see now. To unite them again, you need a long-term economic strategy.

I have read that the opposition to Stalinist Bureaucratic State-Capitalism was a major Uniting factor in addition to the Partisan Struggles of Tito. Divisiosn apparently began to appear following the Oil Crisis of 1973 and the subsequent market reforms.

[pastradamus]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2006 09:05 am
Since the fall of communism our countries(mostly our youths) are rapidly falling into nationalism, facism, drug abuse, all present shameless capitalist propaganda...you get my point. All those stuff may seem to you like normal, but belive me, those stuff became normal here 16 years ago.

...though as I said things are moving a BIT forward because now, besides growing nazi skinheads movement, young people, mostly students are developing a growing conciusnes on what the capitalist system had done and is doing to our country
This seems to be a situation simular to Russia's. Where we now see Capitalist corruption, Large widescale use of hard drugs such as heroin and an increase in HIV/AIDS because of this. The Nazi skinhead movements in Russia are the largest and fastest growing in the world. We also see an increase in Union coruption which is terrible stuff.

Its absolutely great to See a comrade from your part of the world and its even better to see that all this capitalist bullshit has not effected and poisoned you as it has done to many others.

[Ol' Dirty]

It's really sad that people have to live like that. I'm very sorry. :(

Its good to see people who still support communism in that part of the world.

[hajduk]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2006 07:39 am
Gojo, comrade,

I would like to know more about Fikret Abdic if you have information, particularly since you are living in Croatia.

What do people generally think about him?
Fikret Abdić is a war criminal.He work with Serbian war criminals like Željko Ražnjatović Arkan.He try to pronounce himself for president of West Bosnia using the Serbian war criminals for fight beetwen bosnians.So he condemnd with those bad people many murderers using the Milorad Luković Legija like executioner who murdered many bosnians.

[hajduk]

EX-YUGOSLAVIA was a good country.But it build on credits by America and others.So sonner or latter it was the fact that those who give the money for Yugoslavia whant that money back.So we dont have that kind of politic like what we going to do when TITO die,becouse everyone in YU think that he will live very very very very long.Of course that not happend.Hi died in 1980 and after that all kind of political crime lords deicide to take of piece before everything start to fall appart.So they use every chance to still more money and power.Common people nobody ask nothing.During TITO was a live we live god.We been one of the powerful communist state in the world.But like i told you we are been on foreign credits.But TITO was a smart guy who know how to avoid the traps of the world politic.But when he die nobody didnt or cant replace him becouse those who give the money for us didnt whant to wait any more.So they do what they do.Make balcanisation and after that we pay the deats with blood and hate beetwen each other.After agression is over you have some kind of thinking about EX-YU, we call it YUGO-NOSTALGIE.Everybody remember haow we live fine together and that was nothing naow but sweet memory.Today we live looking each other trough nationalism hate,wait every time that those from the other side move in military way.You have only the old guys who fight in world war 2 and they make remebrance on that days every year.But the chetniks which are represent the royalist and which are do most of the war crimes do own remembrance on those days where they fight against partisans.Also the Croatian army HVO was involve in crimes in middle Bosnia becouse the Slobodan Miloshevich whant to destroy Bosnia very fast and he find out if he involve Tudjman in that kind of politic both of them will have god piece of Bosnian teritory,and that is the plan for creating the GREAT SERBIA and GREAT CROATIA over backs of bosnian people.RIGT NAOW we dont have a war but we have economy war,which include the privatisation of all state property.Same in all countries of EX-YU except in Slovenia which was during Yugoslavia state was pro-European republic.Any questions? <_<

[MarshalAlex]

The only problem now in croatia is the neonazists&#33;
They are the biggest problem over here right now&#33;

[Comrade Rage]

Fascism is what comes after capitalism fails. After a market crash, or something else fascism is what takes place.

That said I agree with Nekhludoff but you have to focus first on the neo-nazis there. You can&#39;t have another genocide over there.

[MarshalAlex]

Well... here moust yung people worship ustashas and hitler...

In Croatie there is a rock-metal singer Marko Perković Thompson, and he attracts yung men to fascism and nazism, and thats not all&#33;
Moust right partys support him to do that and they are saying that it is patriotism to sing about killing serbs and supporting chauvinisim&#33;

[Revolucija]

Yes, heard of Tompson :/ We have some fascist musicians here too, messed their concerts/meetings few times ...

[Bobi]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2007 09:26 pm
Btw. There is a very good book "Fasizam" ("Fascism") by Todor Kuljic, I think that you can find it in bigger croatian bookshops.
Im not sure if that book can be found in bookshops, if you look for it try in bigger libraries.

[Revolucija]

If it isn&#39;t, you can order it here (http://inicijativa.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=distro).

[Anti-Zionist]

http://www.dzemat.org/images/vijesti/cetnik.jpg
This dick is a Serbian nationalist known as a Chetnik, you ever see one, pull out an AK. They grow long beards to show their sorrow for their lost king.

http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2006/10/12/nav2.jpg
These ponces are Croatian youth who support the Ustache (Croatian facists), they usually look like this:
http://www.lupiga.com/vijesti/slike/20070618013359thompson_maksimir_maksimirski_stadio n_marko_perkovic_ustasa.jpg

[Comrade Rage]

Originally posted by Anti&#045;[email protected] 21, 2007 01:19 pm
http://www.dzemat.org/images/vijesti/cetnik.jpg
This dick is a Serbian nationalist known as a Chetnik, you ever see one, pull out an AK. They grow long beards to show their sorrow for their lost king.

http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2006/10/12/nav2.jpg
These ponces are Croatian youth who support the Ustache (Croatian facists), they usually look like this:
http://www.lupiga.com/vijesti/slike/20070618013359thompson_maksimir_maksimirski_stadio n_marko_perkovic_ustasa.jpg
The Chetniks allied with fascism in World War II, by the way. I didn&#39;t know they were still around. Thoroughly despicable people, then and (I presume) now.

Uniform is still somewhat the same as well.

Sad to hear that Tito didn&#39;t wipe out the Ustasi as well.

[Anti-Zionist]

Originally posted by COMRADE CRUM+October 24, 2007 11:50 pm--> (COMRADE CRUM @ October 24, 2007 11:50 pm)
Anti&#045;[email protected] 21, 2007 01:19 pm
http://www.dzemat.org/images/vijesti/cetnik.jpg
This dick is a Serbian nationalist known as a Chetnik, you ever see one, pull out an AK. They grow long beards to show their sorrow for their lost king.

http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2006/10/12/nav2.jpg
These ponces are Croatian youth who support the Ustache (Croatian facists), they usually look like this:
http://www.lupiga.com/vijesti/slike/20070618013359thompson_maksimir_maksimirski_stadio n_marko_perkovic_ustasa.jpg
The Chetniks allied with fascism in World War II, by the way. I didn&#39;t know they were still around. Thoroughly despicable people, then and (I presume) now.

Uniform is still somewhat the same as well.

Sad to hear that Tito didn&#39;t wipe out the Ustasi as well. [/b]
The Chetniks worked against the Ustache and the Nazis, they were for a Serbian Kingdom that consisted of Bosnia, Kosovo etc.

And yes the Chetniks are still alive. They even have gatherings in places like Tennesse and Ravna Gora in Serbia.

[Comrade Rage]

Originally posted by Anti&#045;Zionist+October 25, 2007 05:03 am--> (Anti-Zionist @ October 25, 2007 05:03 am)
Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 24, 2007 11:50 pm

Anti&#045;[email protected] 21, 2007 01:19 pm
http://www.dzemat.org/images/vijesti/cetnik.jpg
This dick is a Serbian nationalist known as a Chetnik, you ever see one, pull out an AK. They grow long beards to show their sorrow for their lost king.

http://www.jutarnji.hr/EPHResources/Images/2006/10/12/nav2.jpg
These ponces are Croatian youth who support the Ustache (Croatian facists), they usually look like this:
http://www.lupiga.com/vijesti/slike/20070618013359thompson_maksimir_maksimirski_stadio n_marko_perkovic_ustasa.jpg
The Chetniks allied with fascism in World War II, by the way. I didn&#39;t know they were still around. Thoroughly despicable people, then and (I presume) now.

Uniform is still somewhat the same as well.

Sad to hear that Tito didn&#39;t wipe out the Ustasi as well.
The Chetniks worked against the Ustache and the Nazis, they were for a Serbian Kingdom that consisted of Bosnia, Kosovo etc.

And yes the Chetniks are still alive. They even have gatherings in places like Tennesse and Ravna Gora in Serbia. [/b]
I see.

Sorry, but I sometimes forget about parts of the opposition to the Nazis in Yugoslavia. :blush:

[CroWinner]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 07:28 pm
Well... here moust yung people worship ustashas and hitler...

In Croatie there is a rock-metal singer Marko Perković Thompson, and he attracts yung men to fascism and nazism, and thats not all&#33;
Moust right partys support him to do that and they are saying that it is patriotism to sing about killing serbs and supporting chauvinisim&#33;
What a bowl of crap&#33;

There is a stupid, mean and lying creature - Marshal Tito The Murderer &#33;

Marko Thompson is a singer that sings about love, family and homeland&#33;

This guy is lying and manipulating, because his murderers communist party is not in power any more, and people like him lost villas, high paychecks and complete power over human mind and body.

Those communists were killers and thiefs&#33;

[CroWinner]

Originally posted by Anti&#045;[email protected] 25, 2007 10:03 am

And yes the Chetniks are still alive.
Ooo you forgat to tell him that chetnicks killed about half of milion people in wars while ex-yugoslavia was falling a part&#33;

They are animals, take a look&#33;

http://mprofaca.cro.net/annivers.html

[CroWinner]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 24, 2007 11:50 pm
Sad to hear that Tito didn&#39;t wipe out the Ustasi as well.
Do not worry, Tito wiped out, about 1 milion people, I guess he died, so couldn&#39;t do it any more&#33; :rolleyes:

Any other questions?

Like how he was throwing people in jail for 10 years, because they were singing patriotic songs?

Eh that one is so quite&#33; :blink:

Sick and twisted communist maniacs&#33;

[Dimentio]

You forgot Godless... ^^

[Enragé]

To give you another example, one has around 75 per cent chance that he/she will get some serious beating if walking trough the city centre(or anywhere else) with a smallest red star or any kind of communist insignia.


Really? That sucks, i didnt think it was that bad.

I was in croatia little over 2 years ago, near Rijeka, and things didnt seem like that. I actually bought a che guevara t-shirt there and made pictures of old, but intact, communist monuments for the fight against fascism as well as of street signs (for example, one street was called something like Marshall Tito Road and the other was named after an anti-fascist freedom fighter of the second world war).

Anyway, I love croatia/the balkans and i hope things can be turned around, a highly democratic and radical form of socialism prevails and that the hatred amongst the different segments of the population can be put to rest.

Revolucije, Slobode, etc :)