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Karl Marx's Camel
17th June 2006, 13:14
What do you think of Whole Foods?

I really hope they will open up in Norway some day.

bcbm
17th June 2006, 14:27
Union busting, trash compacter using, yuppie attracting motherfuckers. They've been called the Wal-Mart of Organic Foods, and for good reason. They are pretty easy to steal from, though.

http://www.familyfarmdefenders.org/pmwiki....almartOfOrganic (http://www.familyfarmdefenders.org/pmwiki.php/LocalFoodSystems/WelcomeToWholeFoodsTheWalmartOfOrganic)

emma_goldman
17th June 2006, 22:01
Are they fair trade?

Karl Marx's Camel
17th June 2006, 22:58
First learned of them on 60 minutes. They presented Whole Foods in a positive light.

Apparently they are organic-food based.

TC
18th June 2006, 01:24
I like Whole Foods, they have an excellent selection.

Of course, you could be a lifestylist who doesn't understand or appreciate the place of an individual minor consumer in the economy and act all snobby about shopping elsewhere when the products come from the same system, but that would be pathetic.

bcbm
19th June 2006, 14:09
you could be a lifestylist

Ad hominem isn't a very good argument. Is being against union-busters "lifestylism," I wonder?

Reuben
19th June 2006, 16:07
Originally posted by black banner black [email protected] 19 2006, 11:10 AM

you could be a lifestylist

Ad hominem isn't a very good argument. Is being against union-busters "lifestylism," I wonder?
no she wasn't being ad hominem. Clown wasnt basing her arguement on any particuilar person being a lifedstylist. She was merely stating that one would be a lifestyylist if they were to get into the whole ethical shopping seen. Her comments were therefore directed against a particular style of polics and were not ad hominem.

Janus
19th June 2006, 19:01
This seem okay as far as their organic food goes but not when it comes to certain company policies, particularly labor relations, that bbbg remarked on. Their food is also certified humane by several animal rights groups for those who are curious.

PRC-UTE
19th June 2006, 19:31
I recall some of the extreme things I read about them stopping union organisers, like thretening them, almost running them over and physically expelling them from their property.

ÑóẊîöʼn
19th June 2006, 19:54
What's wrong with trash compacting?

Karl Marx's Camel
19th June 2006, 20:00
I think the workers receive a certain profit of the company.


The head of Whole Foods say the people who work there make so much money they simply do not need to be part of a union...

R_P_A_S
19th June 2006, 21:39
My roomate works at whole foods and they pay exeptionaly well. avg.starting pay for new cashier or produce person is 10 to 12 dollars an hour. some people make over 20 dollars an hour in some departments. the benefits are all there, the pay vacations, the bonuses and they hold team meetings where the employees and the head of their department determine who is slacking off and how can they all come together to get that person to work better with the team. if all fails then he/she will be terminated. after so many hours that you have worked for them you get shares of the company as well as a % of sales of your department.

the women that walk in there store are amazing! its pretty expensive!

Mujer Libre
20th June 2006, 02:11
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 04:55 PM
What's wrong with trash compacting?
It prevents dumpster-diving.

Raubleaux
20th June 2006, 02:31
There is a Whole Foods on the rich side of town in my city. Me and friends go there sometimes -- the food is way too expensive for us, but the store has a pretty unique environment and selection of products. It's a pretty interesting store. It's no better than any other capitalist firm in its relations with labor and the environment, but if I had the money I'd definitely shop there rather than Wal Mart.

praxis1966
20th June 2006, 05:43
Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2006, 01:02 PM
Are they fair trade?
When they can stock fair trade as opposed to non-fair trade they do.


My roomate works at whole foods and they pay exeptionaly well. avg.starting pay for new cashier or produce person is 10 to 12 dollars an hour. some people make over 20 dollars an hour in some departments. the benefits are all there, the pay vacations, the bonuses and they hold team meetings where the employees and the head of their department determine who is slacking off and how can they all come together to get that person to work better with the team. if all fails then he/she will be terminated. after so many hours that you have worked for them you get shares of the company as well as a % of sales of your department.

All true, except for the wage part. It's actually higher in some places; they adjust up the starting wage for places with a higher cost of living.

Funny, though. EneMe told me that the Whole Foods employees struck for pay raises not too long ago and they already made like 16 bucks an hour on average. Spoiled little brats. I work in a grocery store, doing the same type shit they do. I make 6.82 an hour, have no benefits, am not allowed more than 27 hours a week, get no paid vacation, and only make 1.50 an hour more on select holidays (and I do mean select). The next time they feel like whining about pay or benefits packages they need to say to themselves, "Well, I could be working in Florida." And then shut the fuck up.

Poum_1936
20th June 2006, 15:13
Whole Foods, despite their organic and humanitarian foods, is a load of crap. though their recent "we dont have lobster" anymore. Whole Foods' is a load of crap, precisly because of its union and anti worker "we will bullshit you" ways.

[CODE]and they hold team meetings where the employees and the head of their department determine who is slacking off and how can they all come together to get that person to work better with the team. if all fails then he/she will be terminated.[QUOTE]

I have a friend who works at whole foods. They have teem meetings. But the "team" members dont have two shits worth of an opinion. He *****es about lazy employees, but they wont get fired upon his referal or any other employee's. It all comes down upon wether the manager feels the individual upon question should stays or not. Its a half ass measure to make the workers feel like they have some say.

As for Whole Foods' employee's being paid more? Ive yet to seen it. My friend working for a year in the diary department (one of the most demanding departments, in Porter Ranch even! Its a high class area, Snoop Dawg lives there. Not to say that means its the best, but its a very "to do to do" area) still recieves a bulshit wage, above minumum, but not far. And he's recieved a few wage increases. Granted, you can wear what you want. But being a former Ralph' employee, we got paid at Ralphs at a better wage. That is the old hires. The new hires, after the strike are totaly fucked in every way and propbably should seek out a better job.

But as usual, Whole Foods, is just another chain and its not all its cracked out to be.

Poum_1936
20th June 2006, 15:15
The head of Whole Foods say the people who work there make so much money they simply do not need to be part of a union...

Honestly now. What company has not said that?

bayano
20th June 2006, 20:05
here's another site:

http://www.wholeworkersunite.org/

i did go out with someone at one time who was really into "Christina Cooks" a vegan cooking show largely sponsored by whole foods. it was a nice little cooking show i guess, tho i never had the funds to use all of her fancy, whole foods-ingredients recipes.