What are your thoughts on this Anti-Communist vid.

[B.E. Jones]

I was searching on the video section of google about 10 minutes ago and I came upon a series by a Sociologist/Bible-Thumper who created a trilogy of short films about the "Bloody History of Communism". Though I think it is a safe to say most of his facts about the problems in Soviet Russia are true (Stalinism Etc.), this guy likes to make little segways into how Darwinism Influenced communism and how Darwinism has failed and how "God" destroyed Communism himself.

Here are the links. Also I put this in the Opposing Ideologies because I also wish to hear the opinons of the restricted members too.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=82...392&q=Communism (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8249035553873309392&q=Communism)

^is the picture of Lenin before his death (the scary one ) actually real?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...692&q=Communism (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6990636097246645692&q=Communism)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=27...162&q=Communism (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2702113930400709162&q=Communism)

[More Fire for the People]

The majority of 'facts' used by Western textbooks came straight from nazis and Nazi collaborators. I'm the nazis wouldn't skew anything though, right?

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by Hopscotch [email protected] 16 2006, 10:44 PM
The majority of 'facts' used by Western textbooks came straight from nazis and Nazi collaborators. I'm the nazis wouldn't skew anything though, right?
Proof?

[EwokUtopia]

How many shots of those "communist barbarians" were taken when the Russians were defeating the Third Reich? Would Hitler and all the hatred he espoused have been defeated if it wasnt for the Soviet Union? would Russia have offered any resistance if it still remained under the Czars?

'Fraid not. Soviet Communism (not to be confused with true communism, which was never intended to start in underindustrialized Russia) is the only thing that kept Hitler and his croonies from having their way with Europe and everywhere. If you wish the Soviet Union had never existed, then unfortunately you wish that Hitler had succeeded by extension.

[More Fire for the People]

Originally posted by CubaSocialista+Jun 16 2006, 04:45 PM--> (CubaSocialista @ Jun 16 2006, 04:45 PM)
Hopscotch [email protected] 16 2006, 10:44 PM
The majority of 'facts' used by Western textbooks came straight from nazis and Nazi collaborators. I'm the nazis wouldn't skew anything though, right?
Proof? [/b]
Not much more credible in itslef but I believe Another View of Stalin (http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html) uses some sources. Once you get past the Stalin fetish, it's a pretty interesting read. Just don't try and read all of it.

[theraven]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 10:53 PM
How many shots of those "communist barbarians" were taken when the Russians were defeating the Third Reich? Would Hitler and all the hatred he espoused have been defeated if it wasnt for the Soviet Union? would Russia have offered any resistance if it still remained under the Czars?

'Fraid not. Soviet Communism (not to be confused with true communism, which was never intended to start in underindustrialized Russia) is the only thing that kept Hitler and his croonies from having their way with Europe and everywhere. If you wish the Soviet Union had never existed, then unfortunately you wish that Hitler had succeeded by extension.
why the hell woudln't the czar have done anything? russia nd germany are ancietn enemies, if the czar had the abitlyt to he would have fought as well.

[black magick hustla]

oh man.

those three videos were created by an islamic creationist

what did you expect

[BobKKKindle$]

I began laughing when the Guy said that Lenin's ailements towards the end of his life were due to some curse sent from Heaven. But, yeah, we all know terrible atrocities were performed in the name of Communism. However, the sources that the guy used were absolutely absurd - as if a book called 'The Black Book of Communism' would give accurate infomation, any more than 'The Road to Wiggin Pier' would provide a balanced treatment of Capitlaism. I found it very ironic that when he was talking about such and such famine, the music to Schindler's list (film set in Nazi german) was playing.

[R_P_A_S]

did Lenin really order for the czar ruler's family to be executed?

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by Hopscotch Anthill+Jun 16 2006, 10:58 PM--> (Hopscotch Anthill @ Jun 16 2006, 10:58 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 04:45 PM

Hopscotch [email protected] 16 2006, 10:44 PM
The majority of 'facts' used by Western textbooks came straight from nazis and Nazi collaborators. I'm the nazis wouldn't skew anything though, right?
Proof?
Not much more credible in itslef but I believe Another View of Stalin (http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html) uses some sources. Once you get past the Stalin fetish, it's a pretty interesting read. Just don't try and read all of it. [/b]
Ahh.

Good enough, thanks.

Just wasn't sure of your claim.

[Andy Bowden]

:lol:

This must be the only "documentary" in the world that has music from Metal Gear Solid in it! :D

[Forward Union]

When they talk about communism, they are largely refering to Leninism, Stalinism and Maosim...

so who cares?

PS: I really want that huge stalin bust, it's dope!

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by Hopscotch Anthill+Jun 16 2006, 10:58 PM--> (Hopscotch Anthill @ Jun 16 2006, 10:58 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 04:45 PM

Hopscotch [email protected] 16 2006, 10:44 PM
The majority of 'facts' used by Western textbooks came straight from nazis and Nazi collaborators. I'm the nazis wouldn't skew anything though, right?
Proof?
Not much more credible in itslef but I believe Another View of Stalin (http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html) uses some sources. Once you get past the Stalin fetish, it's a pretty interesting read. Just don't try and read all of it. [/b]


I didn't mean to sound like it was an accusation, Hopscotch. I just wanted to know what to cite when I tell people that.


As well, Additives Free, Leninism did not commit those murders (though Maoism and Stalinism in some ways, did, though at the same time, to put these deaths on the shoulders of only 2 individuals without analyzing the circumstances is what Castro calls, Historical Simplism.)

And Yes, Lenin ordered the Czar and his filthy little family to be shot. They were mass murderers in their legacy that far outdid Stalin. The pogroms, the bigotry, the sexism, the cronyism, the serfdom...

Anyone with sympathies, regrets, or nice thoughts about the Czar is into some pretty damn good drugs. I'd like a taste.

[Severian]

Originally posted by Hopscotch [email protected] 16 2006, 04:58 PM
Not much more credible in itslef but I believe Another View of Stalin (http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html) uses some sources. Once you get past the Stalin fetish, it's a pretty interesting read. Just don't try and read all of it.
You're right - that's not much more credible. Unless you've gone back and checked their sources. To see if what those sources really say. And since you don't say where in the book it is, we've got no way of knowing if "Another View of Stalin" makes the same claim, even. (Unless I read the whole thing, which ain't gonna happen.)

You originally said: "The majority of 'facts' used by Western textbooks came straight from nazis and Nazi collaborators. "

Seriously, that claim's ridiculous on its face. "The majority"? You have to turn your brain off to believe it.

And Nazis are hardly the only people with an axe to grind against communism, so it's a completely unnecessary claim too......

The tendency to believe anything, just because it fits one's biases, has to be fought....

[Black Dagger]

This video is soooooooooo horrible, i mean for fuck's sake, the music is beyond cheesy, 'oooh scary communism' - i've watched a few minutes, and they're incorporating the evil charles darwin into a doco about the 'bloody history of communism' because apparently darwin fitted his theory into 'dialectical materialism', a theory which according to the narrator has 'no scientific foundation' :rolleyes: