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barista.marxista
16th June 2006, 09:11
Can anyone recommend me a good book on the Hungarian Revolution in 1956?
Martin Blank
16th June 2006, 09:13
There is no one single book that is good on the subject. Let me look through my library and I'll give you a list of books that are worth reading.
Miles
Raubleaux
16th June 2006, 10:12
Check out The Truth about Hungary by Herbert Aptheker. Also, Anna Louise Strong has a good one, I believe called The Hungarian Tragedy. I believe Strong's work was originally published as a pamphlet; its really short. Grover Furr also has an article (http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/furrlethal84.pdf) in which he details the anti-Semitic nature of the uprising.
Raubleaux
16th June 2006, 10:19
Also, Khrushchev Remembers has a good passage about the uprising.
barista.marxista
16th June 2006, 10:25
Now, some non-Stalinist recommendations would be nice! :lol:
Raubleaux
16th June 2006, 10:37
If you want sources that will talk about how glorious and freedom loving the participants in the uprising were, then you are searching for fiction. The Hungarian uprising was reactionary and anti-Semitic, as the sources I gave you will clearly demonstrate if you actually cared to learn something. It is pretty ridiculous that you would write off a source simply because you regard it as "Stalinist." Khrushchev sure as hell wasn't a Stalinist. Aptheker and Strong were pro-Soviet but I would not describe them as Stalinist.
barista.marxista
16th June 2006, 18:00
Sorry, I'm not a fuzzy liberal who "takes in all sides." I won't read a Stalinist book on the Hungarian Revolution any sooner than I'll read a read a Nazi book justifying the occupation of Poland. I don't do Stalinism.
Raubleaux
16th June 2006, 18:26
Herbert Aptheker is one of the greatest historians America has ever known! And like I said, you are being a closed-minded fool if you simply write off an idea based on what you (incorrectly) perceive to be its ideological slant, rather than the actual evidence.
Like I said, Khrushchev was about as anti-Stalin as you can get. And the sociologists and historians who interviewed the participants in the Hungarian uprising were just bourgeois social scientists.
Their work clearly demonstrates that anti-Semitism played a major role in the uprising -- the insurgents perceived the leadership of the Hungarian communists as being 100% Jewish.
bunk
16th June 2006, 19:03
You might be interested in this
http://libcom.org/library/hungary-56-andy-anderson
PRC-UTE
16th June 2006, 22:18
Originally posted by
[email protected] 16 2006, 04:04 PM
You might be interested in this
http://libcom.org/library/hungary-56-andy-anderson
That's the one I was going to recommend. I believe it's available through ak press, I think that's how I got it.
barista.marxista
19th June 2006, 03:07
You know, I just picked that Anderson book up from the infoshop in my burg. I'm fifty pages in, and loving it.
Intelligitimate
19th June 2006, 03:55
You should call yourself an anarcho-fascist, because anyone who supports Solidarity and the Hungarian uprising is nothing but a fascist sympathizer. You are not a socialist.
black magick hustla
19th June 2006, 05:02
Originally posted by
[email protected] 19 2006, 12:56 AM
You should call yourself an anarcho-fascist, because anyone who supports Solidarity and the Hungarian uprising is nothing but a fascist sympathizer. You are not a socialist.
ahahahahahahaahaha
man i do not know what are you doing here. i mean, after all this forum is plagued with ultraleftists and anarchos.
PRC-UTE
19th June 2006, 09:01
Originally posted by
[email protected] 19 2006, 12:56 AM
You should call yourself an anarcho-fascist, because anyone who supports Solidarity and the Hungarian uprising is nothing but a fascist sympathizer. You are not a socialist.
What motivates you to say that? Is it because there were nationalist-reactionary elements within the Hungarian uprising? I'm not sure what to think of it as in many ways it was indeed a workers' revolt.
I read somewhere that the leader of Solidarity in Poland was a rabid anti-semite, wasn't sure if that was Soviet propaganda or not.
Raubleaux
19th June 2006, 09:31
Yes. Solidarity got its money from the CIA and its inspiration from the Pope. It was a completely reactionary and anti-Semitic organization that delivered Poland back into the hands of capitalist oppression. In another thread on here someone posted a picture of Walesa mourning over the dead body of Ronald Reagan! Not surprising at all.
The collapse of communism in Poland has led to a massive regression in consciousness. All forms of anti-Semitism, racism, and other social pathologies are on the rise. The last time I checked, Poland is the only country in the world where Bush has a positive approval rating! It is truly sad.
PRC-UTE
19th June 2006, 18:40
President George W. Bush has dropped tentative plans to visit Ukraine later this month and will instead go to Hungary to mark the 50th anniversary of the Hungarian revolution against Soviet domination. (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2006-06-08T150132Z_01_N08285683_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-HUNGARY.xml&archived=False)
:o
barista.marxista
20th June 2006, 02:46
I wonder if the Stalinists even know what working-class organization is, let alone how it happened in Hungary. And it's cute that you guys sling around the word "fascist" like you just learned it. What, has "Anarcho-Trotskyist-Titoist" lost its edge?
rebelworker
20th June 2006, 03:06
I think the proof of the bankrupsy of those defending the crushing of the hungarian workers rebellion is the fact that they interchange that event with a completely different one in Poland(that no one but Soviet apologists brought up) that happened years later.
Any insult to the leadership of the communists party is counter revolutionary hey?
From what I have read the hungarian uprising was one of the greatest examples of the working class rising up united and federating togeather to run the economy free from the domination of a central power or political eleit.
PRC-UTE
20th June 2006, 06:28
From what I read they didn't get rid of the entire political elite, just the Russian ones.
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