Are you a proud liberal?

[AutumnWindIsARaider]

So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you're like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God's standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn't it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it's really cool. That's what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it's no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It's every woman's "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can't recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can't pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter's peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn't mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.

[RedAnarchist]

We are not liberals. Liberals accept the capitalist system, and wish to reform it. We realise that capitalism is a rotting tree that cannot be saved and must be destroyed. We are progressives, and certainly not liberals.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 10:13 PM
So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you're like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God's standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn't it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it's really cool. That's what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it's no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It's every woman's "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can't recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can't pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter's peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn't mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.
What rock did you crawl out from under?

Your barbaric post is one of the dumbest in the history of this board.

http://www.websmileys.com/sm/cool/123.gif

[TC]

:lol: its always nice to hear about all of the things in the world that upset social conservatives, because its a reflection of the fact that things aren't going well as far as they're concerned, they're losing.

[AutumnWindIsARaider]

Figures a typical, moronic, dim-witted fool liberal like yourself would answer the thread that way. :cool:

[CCCPneubauten]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Holy crap man....

*catches breath*

Okay, wait, I just got out from school...the WHOLE YEAR I gotta say I never worshiped Satan. Although one time we did have a moment of silence. And we also had a 'Meet you @ the Flag' Christian-Nationalist thing.

I'm going to laugh some more now.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 04:13 AM
So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you're like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God's standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn't it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it's really cool. That's what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it's no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It's every woman's "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can't recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can't pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter's peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn't mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.
Fear God? I don't fear Hansel and Gretel. i don't fear Humpty Dumpty. I don't fear God.


You don't say that her client murdered anyone, or even harmed anyone.


I don't care what your sexuality is, as long as you are a consenting adult. I myself am a bisexual.


Right to choose means exactly that - the woman can have an abortion or she can choose not to have an abortion. It gives her the choice.


Secularism means more free thought. Less prayers in school means less indoctrinated children.


US soldiers have commited atrocities all over the world, throughout history.

[AutumnWindIsARaider]

US soldiers have commited atrocities all over the world, throughout history.

But yet you approved of the insurgents (a.k.a. insects in a head scarf) beheading, burning their bodies and hanging them on a bridge. I'm not surprised if you were applauding when you saw that on T.V.


Then I guess God gave up on your worthless soul then. You have no more conviction of your sins and have no guilt feelings of sinning. So go whoremongering all you want since you have no fear of God anymore. Have a nice time in Hell when you die....but I doubt it. <_<

[Phalanx]

Tell me, what have we done wrong that your God would disapprove of? We want justice and freedom for all, unlike you capitalists. If anything, he&#39;d be sending you straight to hell for stealing, killing, and oppressing the poor. You religious bastards are always so hypocritical it makes me sick.

[CCCPneubauten]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 03:45 AM
US soldiers have commited atrocities all over the world, throughout history.

But yet you approved of the insurgents (a.k.a. insects in a head scarf) beheading, burning their bodies and hanging them on a bridge. I&#39;m not surprised if you were applauding when you saw that on T.V.


Then I guess God gave up on your worthless soul then. You have no more conviction of your sins and have no guilt feelings of sinning. So go whoremongering all you want since you have no fear of God anymore. Have a nice time in Hell when you die....but I doubt it. <_<
You responded to him...yet you ignored my comment...WHERE is this school that worships Satan?

You are better than Comedy Central right now.

[B.E. Jones]

If I do say so myself sir, you&#39;re quite the fierce preacher.

Didn&#39;t JC say some ol&#39; hootanany about "playing nice"?

Take his advice

cause if The Inferno, gives us some insight into your "hell"

You will find yourself in the fifth circle of hell , where your you will be floating in the boggy river Styk being torn apart by others so wrathfull as yourself. Whilest the boggy oil-like water fills your mouth to bury the words you scorn others with.

FUN STUFF&#33;

Bah&#33; No worries, that only applies if you believe in all of that Hokey-Pokey&#33;

Cheers,

[AutumnWindIsARaider]

You responded to him...yet you ignored my comment...WHERE is this school that worships Satan?

We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers. If that isn&#39;t worshipping Satan, I don&#39;t know what is.


Didn&#39;t JC say some ol&#39; hootanany about "playing nice"?

Actually he preached more about Hell than Heaven. And you should have heard JC talk about the liberals in his time:

"O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh". [Matthew 12:34]

[violencia.Proletariat]

King Solomon would have called you a fool.

Feudalism was so 500 years ago dude.


No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

I don&#39;t really see what the big deal is? If the cia can deal drugs, why can&#39;t citizens deal drugs?


We all sin from God&#39;s standards

No we don&#39;t, because most of us don&#39;t adhere to "god&#39;s standards." It probably isn&#39;t suprising to hear from us that, GOD DOESN&#39;T EXIST AND EVEN IF HE DID WE&#39;D EXECUTE THE MOTHERFUCKER.


Your children should have no problem being one, right

Yes, they shouldn&#39;t. There is nothing wrong with being gay. The only people who have problems with it are godsuckers.


We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth.

If only that were true. They are pretty expensive but they should be free.


That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience.

What responsibility? Since when is it a responsibility to take care of something that isn&#39;t alive yet?

If this is the case, men shouldn&#39;t be allowed to masterbate because they are abusing their responsibility of being able to make a child.


We can no longer pray in our schools

You never theoretically were allowed to pray in public schools. It&#39;s in your own constitution, something you give a lot of lip service to but tear to shreds with your actions.


but Satan worship is a protected right

So is being a fascist which is a real threat, yet you aren&#39;t complaining about that.


We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Oh theres more to come. In the advanced capitalist countries where your godsucking is on a major decline, the very attendee&#39;s to your con sessions (church services) will be knocking down your churches.

It will be illegal for you to push your women hating, homophobic, racist, classist, bullshit on children.


Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers".

Yeah, what are you going to do about it? Soldiers are there to kill, we are just stating the obvious.


They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts

Actually we communists don&#39;t support any governmental intervention or use of military forces.


in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor

You get that done yourselves with your baby killing. Oh and your economic exploitation in your imperial conquests.


They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends.

No, we just think you should stop killing people to make money.


I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you

They were laughable at best. You didn&#39;t even get the conservative stereotypes right. Where was "commie bastard" or "pinko"? We aren&#39;t liberals WE ARE COMMUNISTS.

[ummProfessional]

I don&#39;t really see what the big deal is? If the cia can deal drugs, why can&#39;t citizens deal drugs?

aren&#39;t you against people making a profit for themselves? :blink: aren&#39;t you against those pharmaceutical companies who do their dirty tricks? ahh yes the irony lmao.....althoug i must say i don&#39;t give a fuck about legalizing marihuana like in Amsterdam and shit, and to be truthful i must say i don&#39;t care people should be smart enough to know drugs are harmful, but it&#39;s fucking obvious that harmful drugs are terrible for a society elevating crime and deaths and so on, a great example was the crack cocaine plague in the 80&#39;s....



No we don&#39;t, because most of us don&#39;t adhere to "god&#39;s standards." It probably isn&#39;t suprising to hear from us that, GOD DOESN&#39;T EXIST AND EVEN IF HE DID WE&#39;D EXECUTE THE MOTHERFUCKER

fair enough this guy is obviously reaaaaaally fucking conservative, he must be a member of the 700 Club, but eitherway dude calm your ass down what is up with you and this execution thing, you think the solution to everything is killing off your opponent WTF get a life man what you refer to as "we" will never happen keep dreaming in a dream world...



Yes, they shouldn&#39;t. There is nothing wrong with being gay. The only people who have problems with it are godsuckers.

well i have nothing against gay people because my uncle is gay, but i must say i do feel indifferent , and with all sincerity i wouldn&#39;t want a gay child...for example when it comes to gay marrige and addoption personally i feel this is not a "normal" thing or w/e , but they have the right to do with their lives as they choose , and there shouldn&#39;t be a law restricting this right because of their sexual orientation....this guy is definatlly a Pat Robertson fan lmao


about abortion, seriously who the fuck is anyone to tell a woman they shouldn&#39;t abort or what not, if you believe it&#39;s morally wrong than go ahead you have your right to believe that, but don&#39;t try imposing that on another person because you have no fucking right...this is just like any other taboo in society, sure i think a child living with gay parents is not a normal environment for them, and something i wouldn&#39;t want, but gay couples have all the fucking right to do it if they want, who am i to say HEY YOU SHOULDN&#39;T do that because i think it&#39;s wrong ...just like insest, i personally feel it&#39;s nasty and wrong, but fuck if you want to do it go ahead, no one should restrict you from doing so..

[Raisa]

Yall are all missing the point.


None of us are liberals in here. We dont want to liberally change the system. we want to destroy it and make a new one.

Thats called revolutionary politics.

We dont even fuck with elections laws or politics.

Were communists.

[BobKKKindle$]

This Thread is a new experience for me. Its the first time I have somewhat agreed with UmmProfessional&#33; :D

This is clear evidence of the Marxist Philisophical belief that Ideology is formed as a result of our material circumstances, and our world experiences. This guy wants to maintian the present system by preserving outdate moral ideas so that he can keep his privelaged position. If he does in fact happen to be from a lower income group, then it is clear that he has fallen into the snare of the aggressive Christian right media. If it is the former, you will be shot on the day of the revolution. If the Latter, you will be liberated from your mental prison.


But yet you approved of the insurgents (a.k.a. insects in a head scarf) beheading, burning their bodies and hanging them on a bridge.

If it were not for the Capitalist system, that war would never have occurred, because the United States would not have had to resort to foreign invasions to preserve profit by establishing new markets and raw material sources. One might even argue that we would not be seeing the conflict between Americanism and Islam today, because the US would not have been so ruthless in exporting its cultural all around the world if we did not live under a system that revolves around profits and commodities. However, an Imperialist war is taking place. We side with the group that opposses the Imperialist hegemony of the United States, as the destruction of imperialism will be a step closer to the emancipation of the proletariat. Siding with the Insurgents does not make us &#39;evil&#39; is merely means we are trying to advance our Revolutionary Leftist &#39;agenda&#39;.


They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts.

I for one am not a Pacifist or a supporter of the UN. I believe in Class War above all else. Only when the proletariat emerges united and victorious from the CLass struggle will IMpeiralist wars come to a close, for the world will operate under a system that places people before Profits. The UN upholds the Concept of the Nation State, which is merely a bourgeois creation and a means to divide the proletariat through blind nationalism. Like you.


We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers.

Oh, so Sex ed is now &#39;the work of Satan&#39;? So I guess that makes AIDs something that has been sent from God. After all, AIDs has caused millions of deaths around the World and is a result of a lack of sexual education regarding the transmission of the disease. So therefore it is gods will that the world be blighted with AIDs, if he is oppossed to Sex ed. And Dont tell me about Abstinence, Abstinence is based upon foolish and outdated Moral Ideas. It seems all your &#39;morals&#39; are based upon the Word of God. Too bad he does not exist. If I set up a Political Movement based upon the word of.....Winnie the Poo, Would that be ok?



But in any case...even if Liberals were &#39;evil...we are not Liberals. We Are Revolutionaries. We Want to bring down bourgeois Society. We want to murder the ruling class. We Want to burn down your Churhes. Deal with it.

[Zero]

Ohh my god&#33; I finaly see the error in my ways&#33; THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ME THE LIGHT OF SAVIOUR&#33; MY SINS WILL BE WASHED AWAY WITH MY EVIL MARXIST TENDANCIES&#33; Class war? What was I thinking&#33; I should be waging a war against the Jews&#33; Duh&#33; The Jews are whats caused all the hurt in the world&#33; They are the evil people who steal your socks out of the dryer when you aren&#39;t looking&#33; They are the evil person in the office who takes two dates off of the cartoon calander on my desk&#33; They are the ones who make my tires point in awkward directions when I&#39;m trying to back out of my driveway&#33;

I OWE YOU MY ENTIRE LIFE FOR SHOWING ME THE WAY TO TRUE SALVATION&#33;

Now that that bout of mockery is done with, I think I can die with a smile on my face. It&#39;s people like you who make people like me so aloof. :D

[overlord]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAH&#33; MOST CONSERVATIVE POST EVER&#33;



So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.

Im not a conservative but your type is infinitely preferable to the type found around here. Please post more&#33; :)

And to be fair to this guy, the ideas advocated by most of these libertarian communists are shared by liberals.

Bob:



We want to murder the ruling class. We Want to burn down your Churhes. Deal with it.


Again, I am impressed with this "progressive ideology". :rolleyes: Shows how much more advanced capitalism is. :lol: Please stop it already with the murderous comments or commit suicide to rid the world of the suffering of your continued existence. What sort of people are you trying to inspire to your movement when you shout for blood anyway? Yours is indeed a Dark Age ideology of Satan, whether you beleive in him or not.

[BobKKKindle$]

Again, I am impressed with this "progressive ideology". Shows how much more advanced capitalism is. Please stop it already with the murderous comments or commit suicide to rid the world of the suffering of your continued existence. What sort of people are you trying to inspire to your movement when you shout for blood anyway? Yours is indeed a Dark Age ideology of Satan, whether you beleive in him or not.

How can you possibly expect me to follow a soft pacifist ideology, or believe that revolution can be achieved without a violent struggle? You and your friends that make up the ruling class have shown us in the past. Overlord. that any amount of peaceful protest and negotiation will only be met with the hard jackboot of the policeforce and the military. The Paris Commune was crushed through Military Force. President Allende was crushed through Military Force. The Spanish Popular Front was crushed in a reactionary uprising. May 1968 was met with Police Batons and tear gas. The Magdalena strike resulted in 300-1000 deaths. We have learned our lesson. Peace and Reformism cannot change a system because the Ruling class will never give up their privelage. When the Masses achieve a revolutionary Consciousness, and recognize their alienation and exploitation, they will be all to happy to pin you to a wall and shoot you. And who the hell are you to criticize me for being bloodthirsty?&#33; You have publicly said that you support the Imperialist domination of other states. So Presesmabely you endorse this Overlord:

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http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Sections/Newsweek/Components/Photos/Mag/050502_Issue/050423_IraqBodies_vl.standard.jpg

And that goes for the Conservative Reactionary that started this thread as well

“A revolution is not a bed of roses. A revolution is a struggle between the future and the past.”

[RedCeltic]

AutumnWindIsARaider: You don&#39;t have the foggyist clue as to what it really means to call yourself a Christian. You do not know the word of Jesus Christ so stop calling yourself a Christian&#33;

Why is it that most people who go around spouting that they are Christians go against the word of Jesus by condeming everyone they disagree with to Hell? Jesus spoke against condemnation of your brothers and sisters.

James 4:11-12


11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Matthew 18:33-35


33Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

34And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

35So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

I find it also very interesting how most "Christians" such as yourself come out in support of capitalism while the Bible very clearly come out against it. Here are some quotes from the bible to show that you are not the holy follower of Jesus such as you think you are....

Acts of the Apostles at chapter 2 and verses 42, 44, and 45:


42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles&#39; doctrine and in fellowship ... 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things in common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.


Acts 4:32-37:


32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles&#39; feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. 36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles&#39; feet.


Gospel of Luke (1:49-53)


49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. 50 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation. 51 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. 52 He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree. 53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.

Luke 18:18-25


16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why do you ask me about what is good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. 23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. 24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Matthew 21:12-14


12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, 13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. 14 And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them.

It is quite interesting how most who call themselves Christian are not followers of Jesus.

[overlord]

Check it out: Funny Song (http://www.roughly.net/FrontDoorDoxologies/Talkin&#39;SaviorLyrics.htm)

“Jesus was a liberal
When He threw them moneychangers out.
Jesus was a socialist:
Said, ‘Give those secret alms, all you devout.’
So how come everybody’s
Trying to pin Jesus to something he ain’t about?”

“Jesus was a conservationist
Who wanted to keep the whole of the law.
Jesus was a capitalist:
Said, ‘Give to Caesar part of your draw.’
So why do we gotta be pulling Him
Every way like His skin’s so flexible?”

[redstar2000]

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[BobKKKindle$]

LoL, thats some good stuff Redstar&#33; Yes, we are all followers of Satan...

I was randombly scrolling the web just now...and.....

To anyone who thinks that social conservatism and religous morals are necessary for society to remain cohesive and table, perhaps you would like to examine the following -

The Netherlands is famous for its extremely liberal drugs and sex govrnmental policies, among the most &#39;free&#39; in the world. Like the rest of Europe, religous attendance rates are also on the decline. Its murder rate, a general measure of Society&#39;s cohensivness and stability, etc, stands at 1.41 / 100,000 people.

The US has a much higher (for OEDC States) rating of 4.54 / 100,000 people. And Lo and behold - the highest rate within the US itself is in the Southern States:


States topping the list of murders per 100,000: Louisiana (17.5), Mississippi (11.1), Alabama (10.4), Tennessee (9.5) and South Carolina (9.0).

Depsite the fact that these States are well known to be extremely conservative (I gather, I dont live in the US) and also contain many fundamentalist religous groups. If what you are saying is true, and your &#39;values of God&#39; make for a peaceful and well integrated society, why is it that these States have such High Murder Rates? Could it be - That blindly following Fairy Tales in the name of JC and Big Daddy God is not the answer to Society&#39;s ills?&#33; The Horror&#33; Hey - here&#39;s an idea - Maybe its got something to do with the economic system....lets think about that <_<

Give me an answer. Because according to you, Liberalism and any Progressive movement is Unspeakably evil&#33; :blink:

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

Holy hell.

I actually love posts like the first one.

I dont often get a chance to feel superior to anyone on this board, but as i read that it happened.

"you&#39;re all evil communists&#33; burn in hell, you sinners"

Its funny how this guy comes an tells us we are going to burn in hell because of our morals, yet he probably goes to church with peodophiles an wife beaters and calls them friends and hopes to spend eterninty n heaven with them, now thats sick&#33;

[overlord]

LoL, thats some good stuff Redstar&#33; Yes, we are all followers of Satan...

In a way you are. For instance, one of my favourite songs - very anti communist:
Have a listen, it is really cool.

Devil is a loser by Lordi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWGzjcr4aHs&search=devil%20is%20a%20loser)

Lyrics:

You wanted power and you begged for fame you wanted everything the easy way.
You wanted gain without pain now your bill&#39;s in the mail.
"Gain without pain" = communism, satanism. Gain with pain = capitalism.

You got stronger but your mind got weak you made a promise you couldn&#39;t keep
Communists and communism...


You had it all you lost more it&#39;s all there in the fee.
...get their comupance.


Via hell incorporated regeneration first you love it then you hate it you&#39;re such a saint.
The Revolution is betrayed by its children.


And now you&#39;re never gonna make it bad situation get on get on down there&#39;s hell to pay.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.... BOB&#33;
chorus:


&#39;cause the devil is a loser and he&#39;s my ***** for better or for worse and you don&#39;t care which
The devil is a loser and he&#39;s my ***** runnin&#39; into trouble you skitch he&#39;s my ***** ha ha ha ha ha


You wanted riches and license to kill you got poverty and then you got ill
You got poor and you lost your will all your dreams unfulfilled
The Futility of Revolution&#33;

So If you are &#39;Satanists&#39;, as Redstar suggests by his propaganda, you are also losers according to Lordi, the Gods of Eurovision.

[jaycee]

u want everything off the backs of everyone elses pain
ur a capitalist **** (repeat untill you aren&#39;t a capitalist)



just some alternative lyrics

[workers unity]

>> "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh". [Matthew 12:34]

Why is Jesus speaking like he&#39;s from 16th century England?

[Free Left]

Cos the bible was first translated in 16th century England, and that conservative must have one of those ancient Bibles.
Hope that helped :)

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14 2006, 11:27 PM

King Solomon would have called you a fool.

Feudalism was so 500 years ago dude.


No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

I don&#39;t really see what the big deal is? If the cia can deal drugs, why can&#39;t citizens deal drugs?


We all sin from God&#39;s standards

No we don&#39;t, because most of us don&#39;t adhere to "god&#39;s standards." It probably isn&#39;t suprising to hear from us that, GOD DOESN&#39;T EXIST AND EVEN IF HE DID WE&#39;D EXECUTE THE MOTHERFUCKER.


Your children should have no problem being one, right

Yes, they shouldn&#39;t. There is nothing wrong with being gay. The only people who have problems with it are godsuckers.


We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth.

If only that were true. They are pretty expensive but they should be free.


That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience.

What responsibility? Since when is it a responsibility to take care of something that isn&#39;t alive yet?

If this is the case, men shouldn&#39;t be allowed to masterbate because they are abusing their responsibility of being able to make a child.


We can no longer pray in our schools

You never theoretically were allowed to pray in public schools. It&#39;s in your own constitution, something you give a lot of lip service to but tear to shreds with your actions.


but Satan worship is a protected right

So is being a fascist which is a real threat, yet you aren&#39;t complaining about that.


We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Oh theres more to come. In the advanced capitalist countries where your godsucking is on a major decline, the very attendee&#39;s to your con sessions (church services) will be knocking down your churches.

It will be illegal for you to push your women hating, homophobic, racist, classist, bullshit on children.


Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers".

Yeah, what are you going to do about it? Soldiers are there to kill, we are just stating the obvious.


They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts

Actually we communists don&#39;t support any governmental intervention or use of military forces.


in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor

You get that done yourselves with your baby killing. Oh and your economic exploitation in your imperial conquests.


They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends.

No, we just think you should stop killing people to make money.


I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you

They were laughable at best. You didn&#39;t even get the conservative stereotypes right. Where was "commie bastard" or "pinko"? We aren&#39;t liberals WE ARE COMMUNISTS.

LoL, thats some good stuff Redstar&#33; Yes, we are all followers of Satan...

I was randombly scrolling the web just now...and.....

To anyone who thinks that social conservatism and religous morals are necessary for society to remain cohesive and table, perhaps you would like to examine the following -

The Netherlands is famous for its extremely liberal drugs and sex govrnmental policies, among the most &#39;free&#39; in the world. Like the rest of Europe, religous attendance rates are also on the decline. Its murder rate, a general measure of Society&#39;s cohensivness and stability, etc, stands at 1.41 / 100,000 people.

The US has a much higher (for OEDC States) rating of 4.54 / 100,000 people. And Lo and behold - the highest rate within the US itself is in the Southern States:


QUOTE
States topping the list of murders per 100,000: Louisiana (17.5), Mississippi (11.1), Alabama (10.4), Tennessee (9.5) and South Carolina (9.0).



Depsite the fact that these States are well known to be extremely conservative (I gather, I dont live in the US) and also contain many fundamentalist religous groups. If what you are saying is true, and your &#39;values of God&#39; make for a peaceful and well integrated society, why is it that these States have such High Murder Rates? Could it be - That blindly following Fairy Tales in the name of JC and Big Daddy God is not the answer to Society&#39;s ills?&#33; The Horror&#33; Hey - here&#39;s an idea - Maybe its got something to do with the economic system....lets think about that

Give me an answer. Because according to you, Liberalism and any Progressive movement is Unspeakably evil&#33;


I completely agree vP and bobkindles.

Can I start laughing my ass off at Mr. Idiot&#39;s post now? I was once a christian but if you wash bullshit, it&#39;s polished bullshit, but bullshit nonetheless.

Ban him I say. This contributed nothing to the board but a Guiness World Record for least intelligence in a first post.

[Amusing Scrotum]

Originally posted by AutumnWindIsARaider+--> (AutumnWindIsARaider)Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car?[/b]

Dudes got 100k of coke. :o

Do you have his phone number? Because I want to know that guy&#33; :D


Originally posted by AutumnWindIsARaider+--> (AutumnWindIsARaider)....you have my prayers.[/b]

How does that work? I "have" them? Well, where are they? Are they worth money? Because, really, unless I can see them, use them to do something useful and/or sell them, then I don&#39;t really want them. Sorry.

But, seriously, ask your sister for that guys phone number. He&#39;s got something I want....and it&#39;s far better than "prayers". Trust me.


Originally posted by AutumnWindIsARaider
Then I guess God gave up on your worthless soul then.

So, like, before, my "soul" was worth money? How much? If I stop "sinning", can I get my "soul" back and sell it? Where can I sell my "soul"? Ebay?


[email protected]
....but it&#39;s fucking obvious that harmful drugs are terrible for a society elevating crime and deaths and so on....

Circular logic.

You see, if drugs were legal, then there wouldn&#39;t be "drug crimes" which would mean that there wouldn&#39;t be an "elevation". Plus, fricking loads of people use "harmful drugs" reguarly....and they don&#39;t commit "crimes".

And what "harmful drugs" have you used? If you haven&#39;t done anything, I don&#39;t really think you&#39;re in a position to comment on the "harm" they could cause.


workers unity
Why is Jesus speaking like he&#39;s from 16th century England?

As Free Left commented, the current English translation of the Bible is from 16th century England....it was translated during the reign of King James and that&#39;s why we call it the King James Bible.

[violencia.Proletariat]

aren&#39;t you against people making a profit for themselves?

Selling drugs illegally is not the same as hiring wage laborers.


aren&#39;t you against those pharmaceutical companies who do their dirty tricks?

I don&#39;t remember even talking about drug companies. I was speaking about drug dealers.


but it&#39;s fucking obvious that harmful drugs are terrible for a society elevating crime and deaths and so on, a great example was the crack cocaine plague in the 80&#39;s....

Yeah, what a holocaust :rolleyes:


you think the solution to everything is killing off your opponent

No man no problem. Haha, just kidding. I just find it ammusing to come off really harsh and strong with the strong conservative types.

[Comrade-Z]

We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

You want some cheese with that whine?


We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers. If that isn&#39;t worshipping Satan, I don&#39;t know what is.

Why is condom use bad? It decreases the spread of STD&#39;s. It decreases unwanted pregnancies, makes the births that do happen occur under better circumstances (better for the child especially).

What I don&#39;t understand is why godsuckers are so hell bent on preserving unborn fetuses, but then once the fetus becomes an individual, living being, the godsuckers don&#39;t give a shit about the kid&#39;s quality of life.

But I guess this all stems from your irrational faith in a 2000-year-old fictional work.

I think it&#39;s funny that this guy seems to think that we are all Satanists. Hellooooo&#33; Most of us are atheists. We don&#39;t recognize any supernatural authority. Not even Satan&#39;s. Fuck Satan.

And I&#39;ve got to say: way to go ummProfessional&#33; It&#39;s nice to hear some sentiments from capitalist supporters who truly have made it past the feudal era and into the modern capitalist mindset.


You don&#39;t have the foggyist clue as to what it really means to call yourself a Christian. You do not know the word of Jesus Christ so stop calling yourself a Christian&#33;

Jesus is like a rubber Gumby stretch-doll. Bend him whichever way you like&#33; (But just as long as you keep the principle of leader-worship intact. Without that, Jesus&#39;s "word" loses all special significance.)


So, like, before, my "soul" was worth money? How much? If I stop "sinning", can I get my "soul" back and sell it? Where can I sell my "soul"? Ebay?

Hey, I&#39;ve got it&#33; We can finance our revolutionary activities by selling our souls to naive godsuckers&#33; Same thing with prayers that we are "given." :lol:

"I&#39;ve got one pristine prayer for a healed leg&#33; Anyone need a healed leg, just step right up, folks&#33; I&#39;ve got &#036;30 now, 35, 40, &#036;45, we&#39;re still climbing, folks&#33;"


but it&#39;s fucking obvious that harmful drugs are terrible for a society elevating crime and deaths and so on, a great example was the crack cocaine plague in the 80&#39;s....

But drugs wouldn&#39;t increase crime if they weren&#39;t illegal in the first place. Soo...

And as far as I know, nobody as ever died from an overdose of marijuana.

So, back in the 80s were crack cocaine users literally growing big black lumps on their skin and keeling over in the street by the thousands?&#33; I must have missed those headlines.

[Tungsten]

bobkindles

The UN upholds the Concept of the Nation State, which is merely a bourgeois creation and a means to divide the proletariat through blind nationalism
I&#39;ve got to laugh at the way you marxists feel you can explain all social evils by reference to some "necessary" purpose of capitalism i.e. the purpose of nationalism, racism, sexism etc. is to keep the working class divided. Imaginative, but false.

[Wanted Man]

Lmao, what a troglodyte. :lol:

[ummProfessional]

Circular logic.

You see, if drugs were legal, then there wouldn&#39;t be "drug crimes" which would mean that there wouldn&#39;t be an "elevation". Plus, fricking loads of people use "harmful drugs" reguarly....and they don&#39;t commit "crimes".

And what "harmful drugs" have you used? If you haven&#39;t done anything, I don&#39;t really think you&#39;re in a position to comment on the "harm" they could cause.

is that why cocaine or herioine is not even legal in AMSTERDAAAAM&#33; anyways, it&#39;s irrelevant, the fact is those homeless you guys say are the victims of capitalism are 90% all drug users...yet ironically you want drugs to be legal...


Selling drugs illegally is not the same as hiring wage laborers.

thats why Pablo Escobar was a multimillionare who had 100&#39;s or 1000&#39;s working for him..


I don&#39;t remember even talking about drug companies. I was speaking about drug dealers

well selling for example an addictive drug is a good business, since obviously you will get people hooked and demand will never cease until that person probably dies..


Yeah, what a holocaust

believe it or not it was a real plague it was disastrous...


No man no problem. Haha, just kidding. I just find it ammusing to come off really harsh and strong with the strong conservative types.

fair enough lol

[somebodywhowantedtoleaveandnotcomeback]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 11:17 AM

LoL, thats some good stuff Redstar&#33; Yes, we are all followers of Satan...

In a way you are. For instance, one of my favourite songs - very anti communist:
Have a listen, it is really cool.

Devil is a loser by Lordi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWGzjcr4aHs&search=devil%20is%20a%20loser)

Lyrics:

You wanted power and you begged for fame you wanted everything the easy way.
You wanted gain without pain now your bill&#39;s in the mail.
"Gain without pain" = communism, satanism. Gain with pain = capitalism.

You got stronger but your mind got weak you made a promise you couldn&#39;t keep
Communists and communism...


You had it all you lost more it&#39;s all there in the fee.
...get their comupance.


Via hell incorporated regeneration first you love it then you hate it you&#39;re such a saint.
The Revolution is betrayed by its children.


And now you&#39;re never gonna make it bad situation get on get on down there&#39;s hell to pay.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.... BOB&#33;
chorus:


&#39;cause the devil is a loser and he&#39;s my ***** for better or for worse and you don&#39;t care which
The devil is a loser and he&#39;s my ***** runnin&#39; into trouble you skitch he&#39;s my ***** ha ha ha ha ha


You wanted riches and license to kill you got poverty and then you got ill
You got poor and you lost your will all your dreams unfulfilled
The Futility of Revolution&#33;

So If you are &#39;Satanists&#39;, as Redstar suggests by his propaganda, you are also losers according to Lordi, the Gods of Eurovision.
LMAO Lordi&#33;&#33; :lol: :lol:
If there&#39;s one band being laughed at in the metal scene...
This thread is awesome :lol:

[ummProfessional]

hahahahaha Lordi pfff BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is the most retarded thing iv ever seen ahahhahaha that was so fucking funny

[violencia.Proletariat]

thats why Pablo Escobar was a multimillionare who had 100&#39;s or 1000&#39;s working for him..

Yes because your average street drug dealer ammounts to Pablo Escobar :rolleyes:


believe it or not it was a real plague it was disastrous...

Yes, it really disabled society. Whats with the sudden sympathy for poor people anyways?

[Capitalist Lawyer]

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute.

Come to think of it...very openly gay men on TV and the manager at my local Borders, are really annoying. I am not for any legislation directed against them, but rather just stating the obvious about their mannerisms and personalities.

Yeah, this guy is an idiot.

[Amusing Scrotum]

Originally posted by ummProfessional+--> (ummProfessional)is that why cocaine or herioine is not even legal in AMSTERDAAAAM&#33;[/b]

Well, I&#39;m gonna&#39; to have to go out on a limb here because of your atrocious spelling, but I suspect your point was that these drugs, cocaine and heroin, are so "harmful" that you can&#39;t even get them, legally, in Amsterdam. To which my response is....and? Are Dutch policy makers infinitely superior on this issue? That is, is it your position that whatever they declare "harmful" you&#39;ll consider "harmful" as well? Why? I mean, what is it about Dutch policy makers on this issue that makes them so superior when compared to their American or British counterparts?

I can only assume that you, in some way, find the Dutch policy makers to be wonderfully gifted....because, otherwise, talking about Amsterdam is pretty irrelevant. I mean, many on the left, myself included, will applaud the cannabis legalisation there....and, for that matter, the relative openness of the sex industry. But no one would see Holland as an "example" of a truly liberated society....and one of the minor reasons why we wouldn&#39;t see it as an "example", is because of its puritan laws with regards cocaine and heroin. Though, unless I&#39;m mistaken, there are "shooting rooms" there....which is something commendable.

Furthermore, you&#39;ve never used either of these drugs have you? So, frankly, I don&#39;t think you have the necessary experience with regards being able to accurately say whether they are "harmful". I&#39;ve not used heroin myself, but I can certainly tell you that cocaine is far from "harmful". <_<


Originally posted by [email protected]
anyways, it&#39;s irrelevant, the fact is those homeless you guys say are the victims of capitalism are 90% all drug users

Really? Is that an official statistic? Myself, I&#39;d say that there are a variety of reasons why a person may end up homeless....living in a capital orientated society is undeniably a factor here. One which you couldn&#39;t possibly deny.

But if, say, Joe is homeless because he uses drugs, don&#39;t you think that there are going to be other factors involved here? For starters, the illegal classification of certain substances undeniably makes them more expensive for Joe to acquire. Plus, with bosses allowed to do random drug tests, Joe may well have lost his job because he liked a line on the weekend. Additionally, Joe could have got caught with some coke and got himself a Police record, which would mean that it is harder for him to gain employment.

Now, there are three possible factors there....I&#39;m sure there are more. But really, when we look at those factors, we realise that if drugs were legal, then the likelihood of those factors affecting Joe would be massively reduced. So, it makes sense that in order to solve the "drug problem" we should not view drugs as a "problem"....that is, we should legalise all substances.


ummProfessional
yet ironically you want drugs to be legal

Yes, because, you see, I&#39;m happy to accept that adults are fully capable of managing their own affairs without interference from the State. I know plenty of people who, like myself, are perfectly able to use drugs for pleasure and function as a member of society. So, despite your "scare stories", I see no reason why we need to "protect" anyone here.

Indeed, it&#39;s very bizarre that you take such a position when you&#39;ve likely never used any of the substances we&#39;ve discussed here. Basically, you wish for the State to enforce your own subjective preferences....that kind of approach is typical from social conservatives. Hopefully, you lot will end up like the dinosaurs....because life would be much more fun without you lot. :)

[overlord]

I just read the post again and would like to agree with this guy but he&#39;s just TOO conservative. :lol: :lol: :lol: I&#39;m not even sure if he&#39;s making a joke or he really thinks that. There&#39;s evidence for both ways:


joke:So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

No one can think you guys are liberal unless he&#39;s been here less than 30 seconds seconds. Hence joke.

On the other hand...

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.
...Sounds awful serious. Anyone else?


LMAO Lordi&#33;&#33;
If there&#39;s one band being laughed at in the metal scene...
This thread is awesome

Yeah, I think they&#39;re all Kiss fans, which weren&#39;t really a hardcore metal group. They&#39;re not metal, I suppose one could call it poprock, which is why I supose they won Eurovision instead of Silvia Night who really gave the best performance:Congratulations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwGkmNWR8-4&search=silvia%20night)

[ummProfessional]

Yes because your average street drug dealer ammounts to Pablo Escobar

dude i just don&#39;t understand how you still would support drug dealers when that is so against what you stand for..either way the average street drug dealer surely makes big bucks


Yes, it really disabled society. Whats with the sudden sympathy for poor people anyways?

well what did you have in mind? that communists are the only ones who care about people? :lol: do you know which is the country that sends more aid of any kind to countries in need? yeah i don&#39;t think you have to guess much and you should know it&#39;s a country you, or well, your "comrades" hate ironically...



Armchair Socialism, my point was that since Holland has such liberal laws, which i myself praise don&#39;t get me wrong, yet cocaine and heroine are not perimitted...don&#39;t you think there is a reason behind that? :unsure: is it maybe because they are real addictive harmful drugs? gee that wouldn&#39;t be too far off...

and no iv never used these drugs, but you speak so sure of yourself..anyways sure cocaine is FAAAR from harmful (pff lmao) wow you should be rewritting the history books &#33;&#33; :lol: if i take a coca leaf and chew it , im sure it&#39;s not harmful if thats what you mean, but if your talking about the poweder you so vividly depict on that Tony Montana pic than you are surely out of your mind...


Really? Is that an official statistic? Myself, I&#39;d say that there are a variety of reasons why a person may end up homeless....living in a capital orientated society is undeniably a factor here. One which you couldn&#39;t possibly deny.

wow dude i can name a variaty of reason for anything really, but the truth is most homeless are drug users, if not cocaine beer and so on, i saw this homeless the other day with nothing, poor bastard was enjoying a niice cold BUD&#33; lmao



But if, say, Joe is homeless because he uses drugs, don&#39;t you think that there are going to be other factors involved here? For starters, the illegal classification of certain substances undeniably makes them more expensive for Joe to acquire. Plus, with bosses allowed to do random drug tests, Joe may well have lost his job because he liked a line on the weekend. Additionally, Joe could have got caught with some coke and got himself a Police record, which would mean that it is harder for him to gain employment.

ummmm yeah which is why if you are homeless because you were a drug addict you have nobody to blame but yourself and it wasn&#39;t because of capitalism...

although sure i kind of do agree with you, because i do have that mindset where i do believe everyone should do whatever the fuck they want to themselves...but usually you don&#39;t only affect yourself but the people around you...

if we legalize all drugs im sorry man but it will be a bigger problem, sure you might say as an adult you can control yourself and so on, but your talking about your personal expirience you think everyone is the same? heck everyone has different reactions to drugs, people who die just from taking 1 extacy pill, and plus have you considered that umm yeah since it&#39;s legal not everyone taking them would be "adults" that will know their limits and so on? you think a 10 year old should be taking cocaine? lmao your surely crazy, this anarchist shit is so absurd...


Indeed, it&#39;s very bizarre that you take such a position when you&#39;ve likely never used any of the substances we&#39;ve discussed here. Basically, you wish for the State to enforce your own subjective preferences....that kind of approach is typical from social conservatives

hahaha i don&#39;t think i have to try any of these drugs to know the effects, i think a whole century of proof would fall on my side thank you...i don&#39;t think you have to swim with sharks to know your in a life threatning position, but i guess you must think that since you saw the Crocodile Hunter in the Discovry Channel do it, society has been wrong , and since you tried it with 2 small docile sharks it&#39;s not harmful either... although i must admit i have thought about making drugs legal, since i do believe that everyone should know that if you take a drug there are effects, but well look at alcohol which is not even a powerful drug as others are...ohh but let me guess you are also against DUI&#39;s and so on....lmao :rolleyes:

[AutumnWindIsARaider]

I&#39;m not even going to respond to moronic dim-witted embiciles that will not listen to reason. So I&#39;ll remain quiet...and let your moronic posts prove what lamebrain dunces you losers truly are. :redstar2000:


"Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder"

[Capitalist Lawyer]

Is there such thing as "Quality Control" on this board? It seems like the latest threads in the past 5 days have been undeniably retarded.

You have some guy asking everybody if they have a social life, quite a few with the word "fuck" in it, too many grammatical and elementary spelling errors in the titles, I&#39;m surprised McDonalds actually made an appearance on this board, A world cup thread in this forum...etc...etc...etc....

Has rational debate become extinct on this board?

[violencia.Proletariat]

Capitalist Lawyer, do you expect rationality to come out of the section of the board that houses the reactionaries? I don&#39;t. :lol:

[bloody_capitalist_sham]

Capitalist Lawyer.

Summer has started here in the UK and Its the world cup&#33;&#33;

Many of us will have hangovers for most of the day for the next for weeks.

So posts might be a little dodgy.


I&#39;m not even going to respond to moronic dim-witted embiciles that will not listen to reason. So I&#39;ll remain quiet...and let your moronic posts prove what lamebrain dunces you losers truly are. redstar.gif


"Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder"

Why start a thread, and then never have any constructive input, you might lose your chance at a conversion or two :lol:

[CCCPneubauten]

I&#39;d still love to know how sex ed is &#39;Satan Worship&#39; :unsure: :blink:

[Zero]

I love this, he starts a thread bashing what he thinks we are. When he turns out to be completely wrong he goes on blindly calling us Liberals, then when he starts getting owned by Bible quotations he pulls back again and starts calling us Liberals.

Then to top it off, when everyone (even the restricted people) think he is a moron, he calls everyone else a moron, uses the redstar icon, posts some photoshoped pictures of Michal Moore thinking that we actually care about that guy, and leaves.

Well I don&#39;t know about that last part, but I&#39;m just giving an invitation. Unless you want to hang around here to entertain us more.

[overlord]

Capitalist Lawyer, do you expect rationality to come out of the section of the board that houses the reactionaries? I don&#39;t.


No offence or anything but this is the only place where enlightenment rationale meets overexcited benevolence.


I&#39;d still love to know how sex ed is &#39;Satan Worship&#39;

Phallus worship. :D

[Amusing Scrotum]

Originally posted by ummProfessional+--> (ummProfessional)....yet cocaine and heroine are not perimitted...don&#39;t you think there is a reason behind that?[/b]

There likely is a reason, but not the type of reason you are implying. You see, the "great democracies" stop many members of society from having fun because, in the past, the policy makers have been motivated by "God" to stop "sin"....or sometimes by racism, as is the case with cannabis in America. The laws were made by social conservatives who wish to force their traditionalistic horsehit on the rest of us....and the tripe about "harm" is gloss that has been added on at a later date.


Originally posted by ummProfessional+--> (ummProfessional)is it maybe because they are real addictive harmful drugs?[/b]

More so than tobacco and alcohol? <_<

How many deaths by coked driving do we get every year? Not many right. And do you know more coke/heroin addicts than alcoholics/smokers? Plus, how exactly are you measuring "harm"?


Originally posted by ummProfessional
....but if your talking about the poweder you so vividly depict on that Tony Montana pic than you are surely out of your mind...

Sane enough to capitalise letters. :P

I actually don&#39;t buy coke all that often, it&#39;s out of my budget and speed or ecstasy are far cheaper and just as much fun.


Originally posted by ummProfessional
....but the truth is most homeless are drug users....

You going to back that up with a statistic of some sort?


Originally posted by ummProfessional
ummmm yeah which is why if you are homeless because you were a drug addict you have nobody to blame but yourself....

But what about my scenarios? Surely, if a fella&#39; is holding down a secure job but likes a line or two on the weekend, then gets drug tested, loses his job and his home, then that&#39;s not all his fault, right? I mean, come on, surely there is a question here with regards the persecution of those who seek pleasure.


Originally posted by ummProfessional
if we legalize all drugs im sorry man but it will be a bigger problem....

Actually, no. It has been pretty much proven that prohibition leads to more problems. I mean, if drugs were legalised tomorrow, then there would be one million less people in American prisons. That would sort out quite a big "problem" don&#39;t ya&#39; think?


Originally posted by ummProfessional
....but your talking about your personal expirience you think everyone is the same?

My experience....and the expericence of just about every drug user I&#39;ve ever known. Honestly, there are clubs where upwards of 90% of the clubbers use illegal substances, yet the "harmful" affects are virtually nil.


Originally posted by ummProfessional
....people who die just from taking 1 extacy pill....

In one of the cases where someone died after a pill, the club owners had turned the water off in order to get people to buy bottled water....and that was what killed the girl. Additionally, millions of people take pills on a regular basis, but deaths are quite rare and are often because people take a "bad pill" (something which would be fixed if they were produced in registered places) or because they are poorly informed (something which can be fixed by drug education....as in education that tells you how to use certain drugs and not just that "drugs are bad").

Essentially, a tiny minority fuck up....and the rest of us shouldn&#39;t be punished for their faults. After all, should every driver be punished because some dim bastard hit a kid when he was driving under the influence?


Originally posted by ummProfessional
....and plus have you considered that umm yeah since it&#39;s legal not everyone taking them would be "adults" that will know their limits and so on?

An adult, as far as I&#39;m concerned, is either a pubescent or post-pubescent individual. I first used illegal substances when I was about 13....and I&#39;ve never had any problems. Again, the overwhelming majority of people who use "harmful" drugs are able to use them sensibly....and they therefore shouldn&#39;t be punished for the idiocy of the few.


Originally posted by ummProfessional
you think a 10 year old should be taking cocaine?

Find me a 10 year old who, on their own initiative, actually wants to snort cocaine. You won&#39;t find one, because, generally speaking, kids just ain&#39;t interested in this kind of stuff.


[email protected]
I&#39;m not even going to respond to moronic dim-witted embiciles that will not listen to reason.

"listen to reason"?&#33; :lol:


AutumnWindIsARaider
"Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder"

Can I get some pills for it? <_<

[Capitalist Lawyer]

Many of us will have hangovers for most of the day for the next for weeks.

Do you do your drinking before you smash the Bulgarian and the Polish fans&#39; faces or after?

I like it how Europeans and their American ass-kissers (especially on this board) regard Americans as "unruly" and "barbaric", when at a soccer match you&#39;ll hear more bigoted slurs and violence fueled by nothing but prejudice than grains of sand on a California beach.

You&#39;ll never see these sort of hate spectacles at an American sporting event where different countries come together to compete for recognition or pride.

How in the hell do you expect a revolution to occur in Europe (or in the world for that matter) when nationalties still hold grudges against one another for shit that happened centuries ago.

Talk about having a lot of work on your desk for the next thousand years&#33; :lol:

[JimmyC]

I am a proud American. And that&#39;s far more important

[Zero]

Hahaha, ohh man. I remember listening to this one stand up comic. He was at a British - Germany Soccar game alright, and the taunts were great. When Germany was starting to win the British just started singing "If you won the war, stand up&#33;"

[JimmyC]

Yes, America and Great Britain, a great team. Just ask Germany.

[redstar2000]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2006, 11:11 PM
I am a proud American. And that&#39;s far more important
What could you possibly be "proud" of??? :blink:

http://www.websmileys.com/sm/cool/123.gif

[JimmyC]

What could you possibly be "proud" of???


The dopey expression that will be on your face Redstar when:

1) one day, another state is admitted to the United States by its own decision;

2) you FINALLY find some two-bit nation where a socialist revolution occurs, and five years later when there&#39;s no longer any logical need for their DOP to continue, you walk up to the authority, ask them when they&#39;re going to disolve or end, allowing true communism, and they a) laugh at you, b) go tell you to fuck off, c) arrange for you to vanish one day;

3) everyone around you, but you, realizes there&#39;s more strength in the First Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment for the protection of human civilization than the stacks of theory written about that bullcrap of an enslavment you call Marxism;

4) on January 20, 2009, yet another peaceful transfer of exexutive authority takes place in Washington, D.C., and the army will not have been called out, President Bush didn&#39;t try and remove the 22nd Amendment from the Constitution, and the new president reverses many of the things he did, like so many before him have reversed previous presidential actions, and the nation continues as it has always, without a coup, without an armed insurrection, without a dictatorship;

5) yet again, the United States of America is called on to save the world, and everyone forgets about Bush and Iraq, and coordinates with them the destruction of God only knows what next monster you hope will be the saviour of human kind, but ends up being nothing more than another in a line of pathetic morons.


I got more, but that&#39;s enough for now.

(Because you and I are the oldsters here (I&#39;m in my 40&#39;s), I genuinely wish you a happy father&#39;s day. J.C.

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 03:13 AM
So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.
You are not persecuted. 85% of Americans are Christians. You are a majority, and the whole "persecuted" paradigm is cheap parlor trick for you to have more power.

You CAN pray in schools. However, on your own, in your own time, and not supported or mandated or in any way related to school activity.

Abortion is a right because it is within a body. No-one objects to the killing of animals, who are JUST AS SENTIENT IF NOT MORE than an unborn cluster of cells that begins to resemble a human being.

We do not fear God because God is metaphysical and unrelated to this Earth, this plane of existence, and its affairs. God&#39;s morality is for you to decide in your own personal life. It isn&#39;t to be part of the law because it is simply not related to pragmatic practice. What is "right" and "wrong" are what is beneficial or detrimental to society, respectfully.

I don&#39;t know ANY CASE OF AN INDIVIDUAL with a gun and 100k in cocaine getting away with anything less than 15 years of imprisonment.

As well, conservatives are very much in favor of that man&#39;s ability to have a gun without a background check.

King Solomon wouldn&#39;t give a damn for Christianity. He was a King in Judea. Not a free-market evangelical in Middle America. You can&#39;t dictate the will of the dead unless you have written, reliable evidence; you do not.

Abortions are very personal decisions. If lovely conservatives had their way, there would be back-alley abortions instead. You can&#39;t control what people want. You argue that as the reason socialism doesn&#39;t work. So why doesn&#39;t it apply to you?

If women want abortions enough, they&#39;ll get them. And if they can&#39;t, I don&#39;t see conservatives willing to actually pay more taxes to make sure these children have comfortable, fit, and promising futures. They may very well be unwanted, fatherless, and yet a larger burden on a world heading towards resource crisis. Think outside the Bible.

You CAN PRAY ANYWHERE AT ANY TIME. I HAVE, AND I&#39;VE NEVER BEEN HARRASSED.

You simply can&#39;t use the public&#39;s time, money, or institutions to do it. Because we don&#39;t all agree on religion, and because religion isn&#39;t relevant to the known world. Deal with it.

We are the country with the largest amount of evangelicals, bible-thumpers, Christian politicians, conspiracy theorists, and creationists in the world. You&#39;re saying something roughly equivalent to Israel being anti-semitic. It&#39;s not at all likely, or even feasible within this universe. Have you come from another one? Enlighten me as to how you justify spirituality&#39;s relevance to practical matters and reason for their application in a pragmatic manner&#33;

Conservatives are always nagging about what&#39;s wrong with society, instead of how to fix it. They call all third-worlders lazy, and terrorists as entirely evil and without reason. They think too, there&#39;s a reason besides plain evil that they&#39;re doing what they&#39;re doing. Yes, it&#39;s evil, and we hate it as much as you do. However, they&#39;re people, and they have ideas, and they are doing it because we are doing evil in their world too. Look at all the US bases all over. We&#39;re slowly conquering their region. We are not like them. They&#39;re backwards and xenophobic. It won&#39;t work.

People CAN be friends if they put down the bombs. I think Christ thought the same thing, but apparently the Conservative definition of Christian is gluttony and restriction, not social justice and mindfulness, understanding. Isn&#39;t it easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to pass into heaven? Please, feel free to help the third world OUTSIDE of charities that only help those who will believe their every religious whim. Turn the other cheek, otherwise, don&#39;t call yourself a follower of Christ&#39;s teachings. You&#39;re simply a follower of your local pastor and his view or perversion of the Bible, which, remarkably, IS NOT PROVEN TO BE FACTUAL.

As for foreign policy views, we apologize for not fellating the corporations and their every will. We thought humans were generally good beings with hearts, not sinners who also functioned as human resources/consumers.

To paint with your ideological brush, anyone, as absolutely evil and without justification, without first seeing their logic, is stupid, friend.

I recommend you spend just a day outside your small-town America, in Latin America, where rich people parade around in approval of everything the corporations do, but act like Satan himself has arisen if anyone tries to assist the poor in the long term.

If we&#39;re evil, then you&#39;re completely and purely good.
As for us being damned or lost, I recommend you look up the phrase "The Problem with Hell"

Exclusivist religion is an evil the world will overcome. Pardon us for trying to treat everyone equally, and respecting the Jews, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and yes, Scientologists (and I am sorry for that) as much as we respect those who claim to follow Christ, or at least, as they see him.

Believe me, you&#39;re in our thoughts. Not the other way around.

Praying for us won&#39;t do anything. See what we see, then criticize us.

Regards.

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by redstar2000+Jun 18 2006, 01:22 PM--> (redstar2000 &#064; Jun 18 2006, 01:22 PM)
[email protected] 16 2006, 11:11 PM
I am a proud American. And that&#39;s far more important
What could you possibly be "proud" of??? :blink:

http://www.websmileys.com/sm/cool/123.gif [/b]
The fact that we do live in a nation that, at one time (the very first few years), surpassed most of the world, in terms of political and social rights, for a larger proportion of its population (white males with money: religion didn&#39;t count as much).

That is ancient history. However, the fervor and heroicism of millions of Americans is something that is worthy of pride.

Do not hate a people. Americans are in a negative feedback loop of prolefeed, misinformation, and ignorance. If you must hate, hate the 20% that are feeding that loop. Eventually, however, despite the innocence of the majority of Americans, their ignorance will lead them into the status of enemy, if it hasn&#39;t already. They will be victims of circumstance, which is unfortunate, but hopefully we will learn not to keep our heads in the proverbial sand.

Since some of my comrades may not get the concept of the negative feedback loop, here is a summary: "Negative feedback (shortened to NFB) is the process of feeding back to the input a part of a system&#39;s output, so as to reverse the direction of change of the output. This tends to keep the output from changing, so it is stabilizing and attempts to maintain constant conditions." (that&#39;s from Wikipedia) Whereas the system is the current state of American policy.

[JimmyC]

[/I][/B]
[b]Do not hate a people. Americans are in a negative feedback loop of prolefeed, misinformation, and ignorance. If you must hate, hate the 20% that are feeding that loop. Eventually, however, despite the innocence of the majority of Americans, their ignorance will lead them into the status of enemy, if it hasn&#39;t already. They will be victims of circumstance, which is unfortunate, but hopefully we will learn not to keep our heads in the proverbial sand.


This was an interesting quote. I&#39;d like to play with it if I may. Watch:

Do not hate a people. Arabs are in a negative feedback loop of prolefeed, misinformation, and ignorance, based mainly on the fact that many of their religious based laws are made by a small number of fundumentalist thinkers. If you must hate, hate the 20% that are feeding that loop. Eventually, however, despite the innocence of the majority of Arabs, their ignorance will lead them into the status of enemy, if it hasn&#39;t already. They will be victims of circumstance, which is unfortunate, but hopefully we will learn not to keep our heads in the proverbial sand, [i]and take charge of the overall construction of who they are, and what their laws are when it comes to women, religion, and general hate.

I just thought of it as interesting.

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 01:46 AM
[/I][/B[i]]
[b]Do not hate a people. Americans are in a negative feedback loop of prolefeed, misinformation, and ignorance. If you must hate, hate the 20% that are feeding that loop. Eventually, however, despite the innocence of the majority of Americans, their ignorance will lead them into the status of enemy, if it hasn&#39;t already. They will be victims of circumstance, which is unfortunate, but hopefully we will learn not to keep our heads in the proverbial sand.


This was an interesting quote. I&#39;d like to play with it if I may. Watch:

Do not hate a people. Arabs are in a negative feedback loop of prolefeed, misinformation, and ignorance, based mainly on the fact that many of their religious based laws are made by a small number of fundumentalist thinkers. If you must hate, hate the 20% that are feeding that loop. Eventually, however, despite the innocence of the majority of Arabs, their ignorance will lead them into the status of enemy, if it hasn&#39;t already. They will be victims of circumstance, which is unfortunate, but hopefully we will learn not to keep our heads in the proverbial sand, and take charge of the overall construction of who they are, and what their laws are when it comes to women, religion, and general hate.

I just thought of it as interesting.
And accurate.

I&#39;m actually glad you applied it outside of the box, as it brings forth the Universality of these problems.

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 03:31 AM
:lol: its always nice to hear about all of the things in the world that upset social conservatives, because its a reflection of the fact that things aren&#39;t going well as far as they&#39;re concerned, they&#39;re losing.
"You can always tell how good a society is getting by the rate of rambling among red-faced conservatives."

--I don&#39;t remember who.

[SmithSmith]

AutnmmWindIsARaider,

Move to Saudi Arabia they support everything you like.

Your the kind of people the founding fathers escaped from to seek freedom.

[Sabocat]

Yet another unsubstantiated bullshit statement from someone talking out of his ass.


DummProfessional


it&#39;s irrelevant, the fact is those homeless you guys say are the victims of capitalism are 90% all drug users...yet ironically you want drugs to be legal...



By current estimates, as many as 700,000 people are homeless on any given night (National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty, 1999). Twenty to 25 percent of these homeless persons are adults who have serious mental illnesses; approximately 50 percent also have a co-occurring alcohol or drug problem (National Resource Center on Homelessness and Mental Illness, 2001). Minorities, especially African Americans, are over-represented among homeless persons with mental illness.

Link (http://www.mentalhealth.samhsa.gov/publications/allpubs/KEN95-0015/default.asp)


Homeless clients report a variety of problems with mental or emotional conditions, alcohol use, or use of illegal drugs within the past 30 days (table 2.4). During this period 38 percent report problems with alcohol use; 26 percent report problems with drug use, and 39 percent report mental health problems.

Sixty-six percent of homeless clients report one or more of these problems during the past month (figure 2.11). Thirteen percent report only alcohol problems, 7 percent report only drug problems, 17 percent report only mental health problems, 22 percent report combinations of two problems, and 8 percent report all three problems during the past month.

So where are these illusive 90% that are the drug addicts?

Many of these mentally ill homeless were turned out of State funded Institutions when they were privatized. If you can&#39;t blame capitalism for that...who should get the blame?

"The fastest growing segment of the homeless population is families with children. Families constitute 40% of those that become homeless. 46% of the cities surveyed identified domestic violence as the primary cause of homelessness. 32% requests for shelter by homeless families was denied due to lack of resources...."

Link that you won&#39;t read (http://www.centerforhealthimprovement.org/pdf/1Homelessness%20Facts.pdf)

[Capitalist Lawyer]

Originally posted by redstar2000+Jun 18 2006, 01:22 PM--> (redstar2000 @ Jun 18 2006, 01:22 PM)
[email protected] 16 2006, 11:11 PM

What could you possibly be "proud" of???

[/b]
Well redstar, what do you suppose the chances are that you or any of the communists has ever thought about what American patriotism actually means? I&#39;d be willing to bet that you have never actually had a thought about pariotism at all

In the Old Countries of Europe, for far too many decades, patriotism at the common level was all tied up in mythical narratives of blood and soil. American patriotism on the other hand was and is tied up in the ideas that come together in our Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Anyone from anywhere can become an American simply by accepting the American creed because this is a country based on an idea whereas it doesn&#39;t matter how long an immigrant lives in old blood and soil countries like France or Japan, the outsider will never be French or Japanese, just an outsider living in a foreign country.

That&#39;s what separates our patriotism from theirs and that&#39;s what I am proud of about this country.

[Zero]

Yeah sure, call yourself an American. I&#39;m sure thats going to stop our nintendo pilots from bombing you.

[JimmyC]

Zero,

Just keep hittin the JD, there.

[CubaSocialista]

Am I the only Red here who will admit that the opposition occasionally has SOME traces of merit within their argument here?

As far as I know, the scientific process, which Communism is indeed based on, requires substantial understanding of other viewpoints, and their role in the society of tomorrow.

[BurnTheOliveTree]

Oh no, King Solomon would have called me a fool&#33;&#33; I&#39;ll just re-evaluate my entire world view now. Thanks for converting me.

-Alex

[BurnTheOliveTree]

Oh no, King Solomon would have called me a fool&#33;&#33; I&#39;ll just re-evaluate my entire world view now. Thanks for converting me.

-Alex

[BurnTheOliveTree]

Oh no, King Solomon would have called me a fool&#33;&#33; I&#39;ll just re-evaluate my entire world view now. Thanks for converting me.

-Alex

[Herman]

The dopey expression that will be on your face Redstar when:

1) one day, another state is admitted to the United States by its own decision;

2) you FINALLY find some two-bit nation where a socialist revolution occurs, and five years later when there&#39;s no longer any logical need for their DOP to continue, you walk up to the authority, ask them when they&#39;re going to disolve or end, allowing true communism, and they a) laugh at you, b) go tell you to fuck off, c) arrange for you to vanish one day;

3) everyone around you, but you, realizes there&#39;s more strength in the First Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment for the protection of human civilization than the stacks of theory written about that bullcrap of an enslavment you call Marxism;

4) on January 20, 2009, yet another peaceful transfer of exexutive authority takes place in Washington, D.C., and the army will not have been called out, President Bush didn&#39;t try and remove the 22nd Amendment from the Constitution, and the new president reverses many of the things he did, like so many before him have reversed previous presidential actions, and the nation continues as it has always, without a coup, without an armed insurrection, without a dictatorship;

5) yet again, the United States of America is called on to save the world, and everyone forgets about Bush and Iraq, and coordinates with them the destruction of God only knows what next monster you hope will be the saviour of human kind, but ends up being nothing more than another in a line of pathetic morons.


I got more, but that&#39;s enough for now.

(Because you and I are the oldsters here (I&#39;m in my 40&#39;s), I genuinely wish you a happy father&#39;s day. J.C.

Oh don&#39;t worry. You&#39;ll be the first American to be executed when the revolution comes.

[Herman]

The dopey expression that will be on your face Redstar when:

1) one day, another state is admitted to the United States by its own decision;

2) you FINALLY find some two-bit nation where a socialist revolution occurs, and five years later when there&#39;s no longer any logical need for their DOP to continue, you walk up to the authority, ask them when they&#39;re going to disolve or end, allowing true communism, and they a) laugh at you, b) go tell you to fuck off, c) arrange for you to vanish one day;

3) everyone around you, but you, realizes there&#39;s more strength in the First Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment for the protection of human civilization than the stacks of theory written about that bullcrap of an enslavment you call Marxism;

4) on January 20, 2009, yet another peaceful transfer of exexutive authority takes place in Washington, D.C., and the army will not have been called out, President Bush didn&#39;t try and remove the 22nd Amendment from the Constitution, and the new president reverses many of the things he did, like so many before him have reversed previous presidential actions, and the nation continues as it has always, without a coup, without an armed insurrection, without a dictatorship;

5) yet again, the United States of America is called on to save the world, and everyone forgets about Bush and Iraq, and coordinates with them the destruction of God only knows what next monster you hope will be the saviour of human kind, but ends up being nothing more than another in a line of pathetic morons.


I got more, but that&#39;s enough for now.

(Because you and I are the oldsters here (I&#39;m in my 40&#39;s), I genuinely wish you a happy father&#39;s day. J.C.

Oh don&#39;t worry. You&#39;ll be the first American to be executed when the revolution comes.

[Herman]

The dopey expression that will be on your face Redstar when:

1) one day, another state is admitted to the United States by its own decision;

2) you FINALLY find some two-bit nation where a socialist revolution occurs, and five years later when there&#39;s no longer any logical need for their DOP to continue, you walk up to the authority, ask them when they&#39;re going to disolve or end, allowing true communism, and they a) laugh at you, b) go tell you to fuck off, c) arrange for you to vanish one day;

3) everyone around you, but you, realizes there&#39;s more strength in the First Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment for the protection of human civilization than the stacks of theory written about that bullcrap of an enslavment you call Marxism;

4) on January 20, 2009, yet another peaceful transfer of exexutive authority takes place in Washington, D.C., and the army will not have been called out, President Bush didn&#39;t try and remove the 22nd Amendment from the Constitution, and the new president reverses many of the things he did, like so many before him have reversed previous presidential actions, and the nation continues as it has always, without a coup, without an armed insurrection, without a dictatorship;

5) yet again, the United States of America is called on to save the world, and everyone forgets about Bush and Iraq, and coordinates with them the destruction of God only knows what next monster you hope will be the saviour of human kind, but ends up being nothing more than another in a line of pathetic morons.


I got more, but that&#39;s enough for now.

(Because you and I are the oldsters here (I&#39;m in my 40&#39;s), I genuinely wish you a happy father&#39;s day. J.C.

Oh don&#39;t worry. You&#39;ll be the first American to be executed when the revolution comes.

[JimmyC]

RedHerman wrote:

Oh don&#39;t worry. You&#39;ll be the first American to be executed when the revolution comes.


My response:

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha haha&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason, stability, and happiness for mass murder, tyranny, and slavery. Sure we will.


Thank you for acknowledging me as an "American". Usually this place would refer to me as a Euro-Occupier of North America or somesuch. Glad I finally got to at least one of you.

Respectfully,

Jimmy Case

[JimmyC]

RedHerman wrote:

Oh don&#39;t worry. You&#39;ll be the first American to be executed when the revolution comes.


My response:

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha haha&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason, stability, and happiness for mass murder, tyranny, and slavery. Sure we will.


Thank you for acknowledging me as an "American". Usually this place would refer to me as a Euro-Occupier of North America or somesuch. Glad I finally got to at least one of you.

Respectfully,

Jimmy Case

[JimmyC]

RedHerman wrote:

Oh don&#39;t worry. You&#39;ll be the first American to be executed when the revolution comes.


My response:

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha haha&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;


Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason, stability, and happiness for mass murder, tyranny, and slavery. Sure we will.


Thank you for acknowledging me as an "American". Usually this place would refer to me as a Euro-Occupier of North America or somesuch. Glad I finally got to at least one of you.

Respectfully,

Jimmy Case

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by JimmyC+Jun 22 2006, 12:23 PM--> (JimmyC @ Jun 22 2006, 12:23 PM) Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason [/b]
It seems most of you already did:


American reactionary wacko
We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers. If that isn&#39;t worshipping Satan, I don&#39;t know what is.

:lol:

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by JimmyC+Jun 22 2006, 12:23 PM--> (JimmyC @ Jun 22 2006, 12:23 PM) Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason [/b]
It seems most of you already did:


American reactionary wacko
We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers. If that isn&#39;t worshipping Satan, I don&#39;t know what is.

:lol:

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by JimmyC+Jun 22 2006, 12:23 PM--> (JimmyC @ Jun 22 2006, 12:23 PM) Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason [/b]
It seems most of you already did:


American reactionary wacko
We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers. If that isn&#39;t worshipping Satan, I don&#39;t know what is.

:lol:

[JimmyC]

Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason

It seems most of you already did


Hey, someone with a sense of humor. That will be my ne passtime, El Infiltr(A)do. I&#39;ll go through former posts, take phrases out of context and only partial sentences, then comment on them.

Loads of fun&#33;

yawn.

[JimmyC]

Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason

It seems most of you already did


Hey, someone with a sense of humor. That will be my ne passtime, El Infiltr(A)do. I&#39;ll go through former posts, take phrases out of context and only partial sentences, then comment on them.

Loads of fun&#33;

yawn.

[JimmyC]

Yes, We in America will gladly abandon reason

It seems most of you already did


Hey, someone with a sense of humor. That will be my ne passtime, El Infiltr(A)do. I&#39;ll go through former posts, take phrases out of context and only partial sentences, then comment on them.

Loads of fun&#33;

yawn.

[SocialistGenius]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 07:47 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH&#33; MOST CONSERVATIVE POST EVER&#33;



So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.

Im not a conservative but your type is infinitely preferable to the type found around here. Please post more&#33; :)

And to be fair to this guy, the ideas advocated by most of these libertarian communists are shared by liberals.

Bob:



We want to murder the ruling class. We Want to burn down your Churhes. Deal with it.


Again, I am impressed with this "progressive ideology". :rolleyes: Shows how much more advanced capitalism is. :lol: Please stop it already with the murderous comments or commit suicide to rid the world of the suffering of your continued existence. What sort of people are you trying to inspire to your movement when you shout for blood anyway? Yours is indeed a Dark Age ideology of Satan, whether you beleive in him or not.
I don&#39;t get you. You have a picture of Castro for your avatar and your profile says "Communism rocks," but you are completely against it. Are you trying to be sarcastic?

[SocialistGenius]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 07:47 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH&#33; MOST CONSERVATIVE POST EVER&#33;



So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.

Im not a conservative but your type is infinitely preferable to the type found around here. Please post more&#33; :)

And to be fair to this guy, the ideas advocated by most of these libertarian communists are shared by liberals.

Bob:



We want to murder the ruling class. We Want to burn down your Churhes. Deal with it.


Again, I am impressed with this "progressive ideology". :rolleyes: Shows how much more advanced capitalism is. :lol: Please stop it already with the murderous comments or commit suicide to rid the world of the suffering of your continued existence. What sort of people are you trying to inspire to your movement when you shout for blood anyway? Yours is indeed a Dark Age ideology of Satan, whether you beleive in him or not.
I don&#39;t get you. You have a picture of Castro for your avatar and your profile says "Communism rocks," but you are completely against it. Are you trying to be sarcastic?

[SocialistGenius]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 07:47 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH&#33; MOST CONSERVATIVE POST EVER&#33;



So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.

Im not a conservative but your type is infinitely preferable to the type found around here. Please post more&#33; :)

And to be fair to this guy, the ideas advocated by most of these libertarian communists are shared by liberals.

Bob:



We want to murder the ruling class. We Want to burn down your Churhes. Deal with it.


Again, I am impressed with this "progressive ideology". :rolleyes: Shows how much more advanced capitalism is. :lol: Please stop it already with the murderous comments or commit suicide to rid the world of the suffering of your continued existence. What sort of people are you trying to inspire to your movement when you shout for blood anyway? Yours is indeed a Dark Age ideology of Satan, whether you beleive in him or not.
I don&#39;t get you. You have a picture of Castro for your avatar and your profile says "Communism rocks," but you are completely against it. Are you trying to be sarcastic?

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by SocialistGenius+Jun 22 2006, 07:57 PM--> (SocialistGenius @ Jun 22 2006, 07:57 PM)
[email protected] 15 2006, 07:47 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH&#33; MOST CONSERVATIVE POST EVER&#33;



So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.

Im not a conservative but your type is infinitely preferable to the type found around here. Please post more&#33; :)

And to be fair to this guy, the ideas advocated by most of these libertarian communists are shared by liberals.

Bob:



We want to murder the ruling class. We Want to burn down your Churhes. Deal with it.


Again, I am impressed with this "progressive ideology". :rolleyes: Shows how much more advanced capitalism is. :lol: Please stop it already with the murderous comments or commit suicide to rid the world of the suffering of your continued existence. What sort of people are you trying to inspire to your movement when you shout for blood anyway? Yours is indeed a Dark Age ideology of Satan, whether you beleive in him or not.
I don&#39;t get you. You have a picture of Castro for your avatar and your profile says "Communism rocks," but you are completely against it. Are you trying to be sarcastic? [/b]
He claims he "reconsidered" his affiliation just a couple of days back.

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by SocialistGenius+Jun 22 2006, 07:57 PM--> (SocialistGenius @ Jun 22 2006, 07:57 PM)
[email protected] 15 2006, 07:47 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH&#33; MOST CONSERVATIVE POST EVER&#33;



So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.

Im not a conservative but your type is infinitely preferable to the type found around here. Please post more&#33; :)

And to be fair to this guy, the ideas advocated by most of these libertarian communists are shared by liberals.

Bob:



We want to murder the ruling class. We Want to burn down your Churhes. Deal with it.


Again, I am impressed with this "progressive ideology". :rolleyes: Shows how much more advanced capitalism is. :lol: Please stop it already with the murderous comments or commit suicide to rid the world of the suffering of your continued existence. What sort of people are you trying to inspire to your movement when you shout for blood anyway? Yours is indeed a Dark Age ideology of Satan, whether you beleive in him or not.
I don&#39;t get you. You have a picture of Castro for your avatar and your profile says "Communism rocks," but you are completely against it. Are you trying to be sarcastic? [/b]
He claims he "reconsidered" his affiliation just a couple of days back.

[CubaSocialista]

Originally posted by SocialistGenius+Jun 22 2006, 07:57 PM--> (SocialistGenius @ Jun 22 2006, 07:57 PM)
[email protected] 15 2006, 07:47 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH&#33; MOST CONSERVATIVE POST EVER&#33;



So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.

Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.

You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.

Im not a conservative but your type is infinitely preferable to the type found around here. Please post more&#33; :)

And to be fair to this guy, the ideas advocated by most of these libertarian communists are shared by liberals.

Bob:



We want to murder the ruling class. We Want to burn down your Churhes. Deal with it.


Again, I am impressed with this "progressive ideology". :rolleyes: Shows how much more advanced capitalism is. :lol: Please stop it already with the murderous comments or commit suicide to rid the world of the suffering of your continued existence. What sort of people are you trying to inspire to your movement when you shout for blood anyway? Yours is indeed a Dark Age ideology of Satan, whether you beleive in him or not.
I don&#39;t get you. You have a picture of Castro for your avatar and your profile says "Communism rocks," but you are completely against it. Are you trying to be sarcastic? [/b]
He claims he "reconsidered" his affiliation just a couple of days back.

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 04:06 AM

We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers. If that isn&#39;t worshipping Satan, I don&#39;t know what is.


ooooooh, children are learnt how to have sex WITHOUT getting pregnant&#33;
No more teen pregnancies&#33; EVIL&#33;
EDIT: but you were probably being sarcastic, sorry, noticed too late

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 04:06 AM

We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers. If that isn&#39;t worshipping Satan, I don&#39;t know what is.


ooooooh, children are learnt how to have sex WITHOUT getting pregnant&#33;
No more teen pregnancies&#33; EVIL&#33;
EDIT: but you were probably being sarcastic, sorry, noticed too late

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 04:06 AM

We have elementary schools that teaches young kids on how to put condoms on cucumbers. If that isn&#39;t worshipping Satan, I don&#39;t know what is.


ooooooh, children are learnt how to have sex WITHOUT getting pregnant&#33;
No more teen pregnancies&#33; EVIL&#33;
EDIT: but you were probably being sarcastic, sorry, noticed too late

[fitzcarraldo]

So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

I agree. These liberals suck



We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

Your sister needs to get a rosary or something and start praying.



The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.



We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.



We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.
Satanists will end up in hell anyway and get their punishment so I wouldn&#39;t worry about them.



Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.
Agreed.



You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.
I will pray for them too but i don&#39;t think it will do any good unless they themselves take Jesus into their hearts.

[fitzcarraldo]

So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

I agree. These liberals suck



We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

Your sister needs to get a rosary or something and start praying.



The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.



We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.



We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.
Satanists will end up in hell anyway and get their punishment so I wouldn&#39;t worry about them.



Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.
Agreed.



You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.
I will pray for them too but i don&#39;t think it will do any good unless they themselves take Jesus into their hearts.

[fitzcarraldo]

So you call yourself a liberal with pride? I feel sorry for you, because you&#39;re like the man bragging about sin with no fear of God much less responsibility for its consequences. King Solomon would have called you a fool.

I agree. These liberals suck



We all sin from God&#39;s standards, but I have watched my sister (who is an ACLU lawyer and self-described liberal) justify complete immorality simply because it suits her client. Have a gun and a 100k worth of cocaine in your car? No problem, because the police are at fault and I can get you off on a technicality in the law. Meanwhile, a dangerous felon goes free to deal more drugs.

Your sister needs to get a rosary or something and start praying.



The BRAVO network is so cute, isn&#39;t it? Gay people are just so cute. Your children should have no problem being one, right? In fact, it&#39;s really cool. That&#39;s what liberal thought has done to America.

I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.



We have abortions like it&#39;s no big deal, simple as brushing your teeth. It&#39;s every woman&#39;s "right to choose". That is the most classic denial of responsibility possible, when an unborn child takes a back seat to a selfish decision based upon convenience. Liberals support abortion and abortion clinics. Conservatives do not.

Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.



We can no longer pray in our schools, but Satan worship is a protected right. We can no longer have a nativity scene at Christmas in a public venue. We can&#39;t recite the pledge of allegiance without objection from the courts. We can&#39;t pray at a graduation ceremony for the graduates. We are more persecuted now as Christians in America than we have ever been in the past, and we have liberals to thank for it.
Satanists will end up in hell anyway and get their punishment so I wouldn&#39;t worry about them.



Liberals hate our military and call our soldiers "baby killers". They want to support the U.N. and Jimmy Carter&#39;s peace-keeping mission efforts. They constantly focus on what is going wrong with U.S. military operations instead of what is going right, in order to paint the United States in a light of the evil aggressor. They believe that everyone needs to just settle down and have a cocktail or two and be friends. They are at the very least sophomoric in their foreign policy views, and at the very worst treasonous.
Agreed.



You can call me names if you want to, and I apologize if my remarks struck a nerve with you. No matter how "good" you try to be to your family and your community, no matter what other contributions you may feel you are making, know that there is no right way to do a wrong thing. If you hold to the views I have outlined in my response, you are indeed a liberal, and you have my prayers. It doesn&#39;t mean I hate you at all. I feel sorry for your anger at looking like and being called a spade when you are shoveling approval of liberal ideals.
I will pray for them too but i don&#39;t think it will do any good unless they themselves take Jesus into their hearts.

[black magick hustla]

holy shit.

HOLY SHIT.

who the fuck are you. why are we getting so many nutcases.

[black magick hustla]

holy shit.

HOLY SHIT.

who the fuck are you. why are we getting so many nutcases.

[black magick hustla]

holy shit.

HOLY SHIT.

who the fuck are you. why are we getting so many nutcases.

[black magick hustla]

hey fizcarraldo if i draw a penis and label it "god" will i go to hell.

answer me because i have already done it numerous times and i am afraid of going to hell

[black magick hustla]

hey fizcarraldo if i draw a penis and label it "god" will i go to hell.

answer me because i have already done it numerous times and i am afraid of going to hell

[black magick hustla]

hey fizcarraldo if i draw a penis and label it "god" will i go to hell.

answer me because i have already done it numerous times and i am afraid of going to hell

[KC]

I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.


"I don&#39;t have a problem with negroes but I don&#39;t want them going to my schools or using my bathrooms or using my bubblers or sitting in the front of the bus."



Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.


How is it murder? They aren&#39;t even born yet.

[KC]

I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.


"I don&#39;t have a problem with negroes but I don&#39;t want them going to my schools or using my bathrooms or using my bubblers or sitting in the front of the bus."



Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.


How is it murder? They aren&#39;t even born yet.

[KC]

I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.


"I don&#39;t have a problem with negroes but I don&#39;t want them going to my schools or using my bathrooms or using my bubblers or sitting in the front of the bus."



Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.


How is it murder? They aren&#39;t even born yet.

[Herman]

Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111

[Herman]

Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111

[Herman]

Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111

[Zero]

Whoa, this is great&#33; More morons&#33; :D


Originally posted by "fitzcarraldo"
Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

Wompwned.

Anyway, take a stroll down the Religion subforum. I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll fit right in there with the other nuts who try to reationally justify a spooky invisible boogieman.

[Zero]

Whoa, this is great&#33; More morons&#33; :D


Originally posted by "fitzcarraldo"
Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

Wompwned.

Anyway, take a stroll down the Religion subforum. I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll fit right in there with the other nuts who try to reationally justify a spooky invisible boogieman.

[Zero]

Whoa, this is great&#33; More morons&#33; :D


Originally posted by "fitzcarraldo"
Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

Wompwned.

Anyway, take a stroll down the Religion subforum. I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll fit right in there with the other nuts who try to reationally justify a spooky invisible boogieman.

[black magick hustla]

man KC

DONT.

you are just going to encourage him/her

there are two types of christians

BUFFET CHRISTIAN

and

FUCKING NUTCASE WACKO SERIOUS BUISNESS CHRISTIAN

she/he/it is the latter one

i suggest to not try

[black magick hustla]

man KC

DONT.

you are just going to encourage him/her

there are two types of christians

BUFFET CHRISTIAN

and

FUCKING NUTCASE WACKO SERIOUS BUISNESS CHRISTIAN

she/he/it is the latter one

i suggest to not try

[black magick hustla]

man KC

DONT.

you are just going to encourage him/her

there are two types of christians

BUFFET CHRISTIAN

and

FUCKING NUTCASE WACKO SERIOUS BUISNESS CHRISTIAN

she/he/it is the latter one

i suggest to not try

[RebelOutcast]

Another religious wingnut? How does revleft manage to attract these people? Do they see us as heathens and want to "save" us?

[RebelOutcast]

Another religious wingnut? How does revleft manage to attract these people? Do they see us as heathens and want to "save" us?

[RebelOutcast]

Another religious wingnut? How does revleft manage to attract these people? Do they see us as heathens and want to "save" us?

[fitzcarraldo]

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111
I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

You all seem to be very evil people. It saddens me that people such as you still exist. I will pray for you however and do what else I can for you however and leave this here to purify the forum:

http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg

[fitzcarraldo]

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111
I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

You all seem to be very evil people. It saddens me that people such as you still exist. I will pray for you however and do what else I can for you however and leave this here to purify the forum:

http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg

[fitzcarraldo]

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111
I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

You all seem to be very evil people. It saddens me that people such as you still exist. I will pray for you however and do what else I can for you however and leave this here to purify the forum:

http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg

[KC]

Yeah. We demand equality for all people. How evil of us&#33; Maybe we should go repent and start a forum about how "queers are ungodly" and how all non-christians are "satanic". :lol:

EDIT: That&#39;s a really shitty looking Jesus.

[KC]

Yeah. We demand equality for all people. How evil of us&#33; Maybe we should go repent and start a forum about how "queers are ungodly" and how all non-christians are "satanic". :lol:

EDIT: That&#39;s a really shitty looking Jesus.

[KC]

Yeah. We demand equality for all people. How evil of us&#33; Maybe we should go repent and start a forum about how "queers are ungodly" and how all non-christians are "satanic". :lol:

EDIT: That&#39;s a really shitty looking Jesus.

[Herman]

I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

Oh really? Let&#39;s revise what you said:


Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

The key part:
to be ripped out of the womb

I don&#39;t know what this tells you, but it&#39;s telling me that the baby is ripped out of the womb. This does not happen.

By the way, my signature can tell you what I think of christianity and their morals.

[Herman]

I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

Oh really? Let&#39;s revise what you said:


Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

The key part:
to be ripped out of the womb

I don&#39;t know what this tells you, but it&#39;s telling me that the baby is ripped out of the womb. This does not happen.

By the way, my signature can tell you what I think of christianity and their morals.

[Herman]

I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

Oh really? Let&#39;s revise what you said:


Abortions are evil. Who would like to be ripped out of the womb? Its blatent murder.

The key part:
to be ripped out of the womb

I don&#39;t know what this tells you, but it&#39;s telling me that the baby is ripped out of the womb. This does not happen.

By the way, my signature can tell you what I think of christianity and their morals.

[fitzcarraldo]

I don&#39;t know what this tells you, but it&#39;s telling me that the baby is ripped out of the womb. This does not happen.

I suppose you think babies are delivered by stalk?

[fitzcarraldo]

I don&#39;t know what this tells you, but it&#39;s telling me that the baby is ripped out of the womb. This does not happen.

I suppose you think babies are delivered by stalk?

[fitzcarraldo]

I don&#39;t know what this tells you, but it&#39;s telling me that the baby is ripped out of the womb. This does not happen.

I suppose you think babies are delivered by stalk?

[Zero]

rofl, Jesus got nailed to some wood. Pwned.

If you want to debate here, you need to do more then scream "GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD&#33;" and post pictures of a white guy nailed to a piece of wood.

If you want to start a picture war, we can start a picture war. But don&#39;t hijack threads that were talking about something completely different.

By the way, I need to "purify the forum"

http://www.rednews.org/clipart/internet/screenshot-communism.jpg

[Zero]

rofl, Jesus got nailed to some wood. Pwned.

If you want to debate here, you need to do more then scream "GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD&#33;" and post pictures of a white guy nailed to a piece of wood.

If you want to start a picture war, we can start a picture war. But don&#39;t hijack threads that were talking about something completely different.

By the way, I need to "purify the forum"

http://www.rednews.org/clipart/internet/screenshot-communism.jpg

[Zero]

rofl, Jesus got nailed to some wood. Pwned.

If you want to debate here, you need to do more then scream "GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD&#33;" and post pictures of a white guy nailed to a piece of wood.

If you want to start a picture war, we can start a picture war. But don&#39;t hijack threads that were talking about something completely different.

By the way, I need to "purify the forum"

http://www.rednews.org/clipart/internet/screenshot-communism.jpg

[Vladislav]

I can&#39;t believe people are so serious about religion.

This is funny.

[Vladislav]

I can&#39;t believe people are so serious about religion.

This is funny.

[Vladislav]

I can&#39;t believe people are so serious about religion.

This is funny.

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 03:23 AM
rofl, Jesus got nailed to some wood. Pwned.

If you want to debate here, you need to do more then scream "GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD&#33;" and post pictures of a white guy nailed to a piece of wood.

If you want to start a picture war, we can start a picture war. But don&#39;t hijack threads that were talking about something completely different.

By the way, I need to "purify the forum"

http://www.rednews.org/clipart/internet/screenshot-communism.jpg
SEND ME THAT PICTURE&#33; NOW&#33; And BTW what (oh shit I forgot the terminology) "brand/version/whatever" of Linux are you using and where did you get it? Debian? Ubuntu? Thanks.

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 03:23 AM
rofl, Jesus got nailed to some wood. Pwned.

If you want to debate here, you need to do more then scream "GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD&#33;" and post pictures of a white guy nailed to a piece of wood.

If you want to start a picture war, we can start a picture war. But don&#39;t hijack threads that were talking about something completely different.

By the way, I need to "purify the forum"

http://www.rednews.org/clipart/internet/screenshot-communism.jpg
SEND ME THAT PICTURE&#33; NOW&#33; And BTW what (oh shit I forgot the terminology) "brand/version/whatever" of Linux are you using and where did you get it? Debian? Ubuntu? Thanks.

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 03:23 AM
rofl, Jesus got nailed to some wood. Pwned.

If you want to debate here, you need to do more then scream "GOD GOD GOD GOD GOD&#33;" and post pictures of a white guy nailed to a piece of wood.

If you want to start a picture war, we can start a picture war. But don&#39;t hijack threads that were talking about something completely different.

By the way, I need to "purify the forum"

http://www.rednews.org/clipart/internet/screenshot-communism.jpg
SEND ME THAT PICTURE&#33; NOW&#33; And BTW what (oh shit I forgot the terminology) "brand/version/whatever" of Linux are you using and where did you get it? Debian? Ubuntu? Thanks.

[Zero]

That wasn&#39;t actually my desktop, thats my fathers. He edited it a bit, but here is the origional:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/31821-1.jpg

and I run Gentoo.

[Zero]

That wasn&#39;t actually my desktop, thats my fathers. He edited it a bit, but here is the origional:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/31821-1.jpg

and I run Gentoo.

[Zero]

That wasn&#39;t actually my desktop, thats my fathers. He edited it a bit, but here is the origional:

http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/31821-1.jpg

and I run Gentoo.

[red team]

SuSE is the most user friendly. It&#39;s one of the largest distro too.

[red team]

SuSE is the most user friendly. It&#39;s one of the largest distro too.

[red team]

SuSE is the most user friendly. It&#39;s one of the largest distro too.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by fitzcarraldo
I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.

Yes, because that sentence is so logically consistent :rolleyes:

You have no &#39;problem with &#39;gays&#39; BUT you &#39;don&#39;t want them in&#39; your &#39;family&#39; - well if you have no &#39;problem&#39; with &#39;gays&#39; why do you not want any gay people in your family? Could it be because you DO have a problem with homosexuality/gay people?

Why are afraid to admit that you&#39;re a homophobe? It&#39;s not as if people can&#39;t read through your euphemisms and evasions.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by fitzcarraldo
I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.

Yes, because that sentence is so logically consistent :rolleyes:

You have no &#39;problem with &#39;gays&#39; BUT you &#39;don&#39;t want them in&#39; your &#39;family&#39; - well if you have no &#39;problem&#39; with &#39;gays&#39; why do you not want any gay people in your family? Could it be because you DO have a problem with homosexuality/gay people?

Why are afraid to admit that you&#39;re a homophobe? It&#39;s not as if people can&#39;t read through your euphemisms and evasions.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by fitzcarraldo
I don&#39;t have a problem with gays but i don&#39;t want them in my family.

Yes, because that sentence is so logically consistent :rolleyes:

You have no &#39;problem with &#39;gays&#39; BUT you &#39;don&#39;t want them in&#39; your &#39;family&#39; - well if you have no &#39;problem&#39; with &#39;gays&#39; why do you not want any gay people in your family? Could it be because you DO have a problem with homosexuality/gay people?

Why are afraid to admit that you&#39;re a homophobe? It&#39;s not as if people can&#39;t read through your euphemisms and evasions.

[The Resistor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 07:32 AM

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111
I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

You all seem to be very evil people. It saddens me that people such as you still exist. I will pray for you however and do what else I can for you however and leave this here to purify the forum:

http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg
is this serieus?? WTF, you dont have to pray, where to? to the air? Emptyness?

[The Resistor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 07:32 AM

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111
I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

You all seem to be very evil people. It saddens me that people such as you still exist. I will pray for you however and do what else I can for you however and leave this here to purify the forum:

http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg
is this serieus?? WTF, you dont have to pray, where to? to the air? Emptyness?

[The Resistor]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 07:32 AM

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111
I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

You all seem to be very evil people. It saddens me that people such as you still exist. I will pray for you however and do what else I can for you however and leave this here to purify the forum:

http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg
is this serieus?? WTF, you dont have to pray, where to? to the air? Emptyness?

[The Resistor]

You cant beat this one:


http://xm.gnostika.org/art/radicallypoetic/Communism_by_RadicallyPoetic.jpg

[The Resistor]

You cant beat this one:


http://xm.gnostika.org/art/radicallypoetic/Communism_by_RadicallyPoetic.jpg

[The Resistor]

You cant beat this one:


http://xm.gnostika.org/art/radicallypoetic/Communism_by_RadicallyPoetic.jpg

[Herman]

I suppose you think babies are delivered by stalk?

Of course they do. Haven&#39;t you heard? There is a world wide stalk organization which delivers the babies to each pair of Christian parents.

[Herman]

I suppose you think babies are delivered by stalk?

Of course they do. Haven&#39;t you heard? There is a world wide stalk organization which delivers the babies to each pair of Christian parents.

[Herman]

I suppose you think babies are delivered by stalk?

Of course they do. Haven&#39;t you heard? There is a world wide stalk organization which delivers the babies to each pair of Christian parents.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Can "liberals" stop having the connotation of socially progressive people. I&#39;m pretty sure most of us agree that liberalism is the title given to an economic theory from the enlightenment and not folks who are in favor of legalized abortions, want world peace, and dislike publicly sponsoring religion.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Can "liberals" stop having the connotation of socially progressive people. I&#39;m pretty sure most of us agree that liberalism is the title given to an economic theory from the enlightenment and not folks who are in favor of legalized abortions, want world peace, and dislike publicly sponsoring religion.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Can "liberals" stop having the connotation of socially progressive people. I&#39;m pretty sure most of us agree that liberalism is the title given to an economic theory from the enlightenment and not folks who are in favor of legalized abortions, want world peace, and dislike publicly sponsoring religion.

[Zero]

Don&#39;t forget about giving a few social programs.

But not too many&#33; You don&#39;t want to spoil those poor fuckers.

[Zero]

Don&#39;t forget about giving a few social programs.

But not too many&#33; You don&#39;t want to spoil those poor fuckers.

[Zero]

Don&#39;t forget about giving a few social programs.

But not too many&#33; You don&#39;t want to spoil those poor fuckers.

[black magick hustla]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 07:32 AM

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111
I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

You all seem to be very evil people. It saddens me that people such as you still exist. I will pray for you however and do what else I can for you however and leave this here to purify the forum:

http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhah ahahahAHAHHAHAAHAHAHA

[fitzcarraldo]

You laugh? Why? I think it is sad when I&#39;m all i&#39;m trying to do is to help you. Even you Marmot. I hope you have the answer to your own happyness then as you seem to enjoy laughing in the face of the Deity.


You have no &#39;problem with &#39;gays&#39; BUT you &#39;don&#39;t want them in&#39; your &#39;family&#39; - well if you have no &#39;problem&#39; with &#39;gays&#39; why do you not want any gay people in your family? Could it be because you DO have a problem with homosexuality/gay people?


Gays are wonderful people i&#39;m sure. I just don&#39;t want them in my family. Those who deny God&#39;s gifts of love and happyness are free to do so as God is not a dictator and we have freedom of actions. I have them in my prayers. I hope you will too.

P.S. I just proved the existence of God on the religious forum. I wonder if any of you liberal communists can refute me. Its in the Rhythm method kills more embryos thread.

[Herman]

P.S. I just proved the existence of God on the religious forum. I wonder if any of you liberal communists can refute me. Its in the Rhythm method kills more embryos thread.

You haven&#39;t proven anything. Give material evidence that he exists, which is the scientific way of doing it.


Gays are wonderful people i&#39;m sure. I just don&#39;t want them in my family. Those who deny God&#39;s gifts of love and happyness are free to do so as God is not a dictator and we have freedom of actions. I have them in my prayers. I hope you will too.

Homosexuals and lesbians have always existed. Therefore, if God existed, it would be fair to assume that he approved of this, since they came about naturally.

[fitzcarraldo]

You haven&#39;t proven anything. Give material evidence that he exists, which is the scientific way of doing it.

Would you like me to take God and weigh him for your enjoyment? :o If I can&#39;t I suppose that proves he doesn&#39;t exist, right? I suppose if there is no identifyable crime-scene or body there is no murder too right? And how can I prove him materially if he isn&#39;t made of atoms? There are many particles we havn&#39;t discovered or correctly identified, but we recognise their potential for existence based upon observable phenomena. I could say the harmony and beauty of the world is that observable phenomena unless you prove otherwise.


Homosexuals and lesbians have always existed. Therefore, if God existed, it would be fair to assume that he approved of this, since they came about naturally.

Homosexuals too are products of God&#39;s love and devotion. Whether or not He approves can be debated as there are many instances in Biblical history where God allows freedom of movement and action only to become dissatisfied with the random results.

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 08:38 AM

You haven&#39;t proven anything. Give material evidence that he exists, which is the scientific way of doing it.

Would you like me to take God and weigh him for your enjoyment? :o If I can&#39;t I suppose that proves he doesn&#39;t exist, right? I suppose if there is no identifyable crime-scene or body there is no murder too right? And how can I prove him materially if he isn&#39;t made of atoms? There are many particles we havn&#39;t discovered or correctly identified, but we recognise their potential for existence based upon observable phenomena. I could say the harmony and beauty of the world is that observable phenomena unless you prove otherwise.


Homosexuals and lesbians have always existed. Therefore, if God existed, it would be fair to assume that he approved of this, since they came about naturally.

Homosexuals too are products of God&#39;s love and devotion. Whether or not He approves can be debated as there are many instances in Biblical history where God allows freedom of movement and action only to become dissatisfied with the random results.
Simple question: Does God know everything? (I am assuming God exists just for the sake of argument)

[fitzcarraldo]

Simple question: Does God know everything? (I am assuming God exists just for the sake of argument)

You imagine this to be a simple question for Christians? Thomas Aquinas wrote two huge volumes on something similar a thousand years ago. God spoke to him in a vision at the end of his life and as a result he ceased writing and claimed all he had written was mere straw to his sudden knowledge. I don&#39;t know :( What are the limits of &#39;everything&#39;. It depends how far God&#39;s sway extends over space and time. Clearly there are some instances in the Old Testament where he failed to anticipate certain events. Perhaps there is a meta-reality on a higher plane than God himself? One thing is clear, He is for all intents and purposes our one and only Lord.

[Herman]

Would you like me to take God and weigh him for your enjoyment? ohmy.gif If I can&#39;t I suppose that proves he doesn&#39;t exist, right?

Quite so.


I suppose if there is no identifyable crime-scene or body there is no murder too right?

Correct. If there is no crime scene, we assume there has been no murder. Unless there is blood. But in any case, there is something material which shows us that there was something there. If there was a murder and we didn&#39;t know, then it&#39;s not our fault, since we don&#39;t have the material proof to know. You can&#39;t just guess that there was a murder either.


And how can I prove him materially if he isn&#39;t made of atoms?

But wasn&#39;t God everything?


There are many particles we havn&#39;t discovered or correctly identified, but we recognise their potential for existence based upon observable phenomena. I could say the harmony and beauty of the world is that observable phenomena unless you prove otherwise.

The harmony and the beauty of the world are there because material conditions determined so. We influenced that beauty and harmony. That beauty and harmony influenced us. Wether we understand all particles is a matter of time and technology, like it always has been.

[fitzcarraldo]

Would you like me to take God and weigh him for your enjoyment? ohmy.gif If I can&#39;t I suppose that proves he doesn&#39;t exist, right?



Quite so.


Electricity didn&#39;t exist until it was discovered? The earth wasn&#39;t at the centre of the solar system until it was discovered to be? Oh stop you&#39;re making me giggle. :lol:




I suppose if there is no identifyable crime-scene or body there is no murder too right?



Correct. If there is no crime scene, we assume there has been no murder. Unless there is blood. But in any case, there is something material which shows us that there was something there. If there was a murder and we didn&#39;t know, then it&#39;s not our fault, since we don&#39;t have the material proof to know. You can&#39;t just guess that there was a murder either.

You&#39;re assuming there has been no murder just because a body or crime scene has not been discovered? Are all missing persons simply people going mad and walking away from their beloved ones?


But wasn&#39;t God everything?

There are estimates for the weight of the universe, if that&#39;s what you think God is.


The harmony and the beauty of the world are there because material conditions determined so. We influenced that beauty and harmony. That beauty and harmony influenced us. Wether we understand all particles is a matter of time and technology, like it always has been.
You know everything. I guess you are God then. How fortunate we have God in this forum today&#33;

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 08:38 AM
Would you like me to take God and weigh him for your enjoyment? :o If I can&#39;t I suppose that proves he doesn&#39;t exist, right? I suppose if there is no identifyable crime-scene or body there is no murder too right? And how can I prove him materially if he isn&#39;t made of atoms? There are many particles we havn&#39;t discovered or correctly identified, but we recognise their potential for existence based upon observable phenomena. I could say the harmony and beauty of the world is that observable phenomena unless you prove otherwise.
If God is a physical being (as he surely must be if he has a human appearance), then why can&#39;t you weigh and measure him? Because he doesn&#39;t exist.

If he isn&#39;t made of atoms he doesn&#39;t exist.

All concrete matter is made of atoms. If god isn&#39;t made of atoms, he doesn&#39;t exist.

What exatcly are these "particles" you speak of, which have matter, but aren&#39;t material. They don&#39;t exist. Therefore, god doesn&#39;t exist.

&#39;Harmony&#39; is a state of being. &#39;Beauty&#39; is a positive way of judging what we sense. Neither are phenemona.

God doesn&#39;t exist.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 02:27 PM
Electricity didn&#39;t exist until it was discovered? The earth wasn&#39;t at the centre of the solar system until it was discovered to be? Oh stop you&#39;re making me giggle. :lol:

Well, the abrahamic God is a paradox, so he cannot ever be discovered because he is impossible. Numerous other concepts are inherantly flawed and cannot exist. Perhaps even all, I havent checked. But if you think that your Sky Wisard exists, feel free to put us all to shame and prove it.


You&#39;re assuming there has been no murder just because a body or crime scene has not been discovered? Are all missing persons simply people going mad and walking away from their beloved ones?

Your taking this too literally.

"If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."

We assume the teapot dosn&#39;t exist, because there is no proof that it does. And if you claim that it does exist, you must prove it.

[adenoid hynkel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 02:27 PM



Electricity didn&#39;t exist until it was discovered? The earth wasn&#39;t at the centre of the solar system until it was discovered to be? Oh stop you&#39;re making me giggle. :lol:







[/quote]
Electricity did exist before it was discovered. But before electricity was discovered, we did not believe in electricity; and we rightfully did so.
The sun was always at the centre of the solar system, but before the discovery of the solar system we did not believe that the sun was at the centre of the solar system, and we rightfully did so. God may exist, but until someone proves his existence, we rightfully do not believe in him. When you will prove me the existence of God with the same scientific accuracy with which Copernicus and Galileo proved the existence of the solar system, then I will believe in him.

[Zero]

Bah humbug&#33; Who needs science anyway? It&#39;s not like it proves anything.

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2006, 07:32 AM

Guess what? THEY DON&#39;T GET THEIR WOMB RIPPED OUT&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;111
I didn&#39;t say that. Learn to read please before you show your intellect.

You all seem to be very evil people. It saddens me that people such as you still exist. I will pray for you however and do what else I can for you however and leave this here to purify the forum:

http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg
AAAAAARG, IT BURNS&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
:P

[Zero]

At least he got nailed before he died.

[FidelCastro]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15 2006, 03:20 AM
We are not liberals. Liberals accept the capitalist system, and wish to reform it. We realise that capitalism is a rotting tree that cannot be saved and must be destroyed. We are progressives, and certainly not liberals.
Nice analigie but please, do not enter the land scaping buisness.

[ummProfessional]

Electricity didn&#39;t exist until it was discovered? The earth wasn&#39;t at the centre of the solar system until it was discovered to be? Oh stop you&#39;re making me giggle

well guys you know what that means, we just need to keep looking harder in the North Pole until we find Santa so that we can once and for all shut these damn skeptics up&#33;&#33; :angry: lol

[black magick hustla]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 01:10 PM
You laugh? Why? I think it is sad when I&#39;m all i&#39;m trying to do is to help you. Even you Marmot. I hope you have the answer to your own happyness then as you seem to enjoy laughing in the face of the Deity.

fewerewqrewqrewq

are you serious

you just posted a CROSS in a communist messageboard to purify us RED ATHEISTS


http://thesilvericon.com/A3JCrucifixL.jpeg

a CROSS

how can you post this and still have a fucking serious face

maybe you are a joke account, you are kinda funny after all.

[ummProfessional]

plus what kind of cross is that? pretty funny cross, with dimonds and shit, wasn&#39;t Jesus modest and poor, hence why he was born in a barn with animals instead of in a Palace

[fitzcarraldo]

Jesus is of the lineage of King Solomon. He is of Royal Blood. If indeed his descendents are living in Southern France, they too have noble blood from Mary, a noble of Magdaline. Hence it is befitting of his imperial dignity to have the most magestic cross I could find. The Russian/Byzantine church does it best when it comes to splendour.

[Zero]

Maybe its LSD just fucking with our minds. Literally or metaphorically.

[Spirit of Spartacus]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 05:36 AM
Jesus is of the lineage of King Solomon. He is of Royal Blood. If indeed his descendents are living in Southern France, they too have noble blood from Mary, a noble of Magdaline. Hence it is befitting of his imperial dignity to have the most magestic cross I could find. The Russian/Byzantine church does it best when it comes to splendour.
I see. So you&#39;re a monarchist too?

Good, you can be one of the Knights of King Jesus. :D

In the name of the Bush, Blair and the Holy Free Market, I knight thee.

Nice to see you read Dan Brown too.

[adenoid hynkel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 05:36 AM
Jesus is of the lineage of King Solomon. He is of Royal Blood. If indeed his descendents are living in Southern France, they too have noble blood from Mary, a noble of Magdaline. Hence it is befitting of his imperial dignity to have the most magestic cross I could find. The Russian/Byzantine church does it best when it comes to splendour.
I was born in Southern France and I always felt that there was something specialo about me.One day I realised that I can perform miracles. I was shocked to find out that I am able to walk on water; to turn the water into wine; and the tobacco into weed. For years I was in despair, thinking what is wrong with me? Why am I not like all the other people?
And suddenly Dan Brown came and brought light into my life. Now I know everything; I am the descentant of Jesus Christ; I feel his presence into me, into my blood. I am here to fight at this final time the forces of the Antichrist and win. Members of RevLeft, for your own sake abandon your unholy communist lifestyle and join me. For I am the tree of life

[An archist]

Originally posted by adenoid [email protected] 26 2006, 08:00 AM
to turn the water into wine; and the tobacco into weed
Can I come over some day?

[adenoid hynkel]

Originally posted by An archist+Jun 26 2006, 09:04 AM--> (An archist @ Jun 26 2006, 09:04 AM)
adenoid [email protected] 26 2006, 08:00 AM
to turn the water into wine; and the tobacco into weed
Can I come over some day? [/b]
if you truly regret for your unholy communist lifestyle and If you recognise Jesus Christ and me, his descendant, as your Saviours, then, my son, you will have everything that you desire.

[fitzcarraldo]

if you truly regret for your unholy communist lifestyle and If you recognise Jesus Christ and me, his descendant, as your Saviours, then, my son, you will have everything that you desire.

I think it is sad you beleive you are the saviour when quite clearly you are not. I recommend perhaps some phsychological councelling.

[adenoid hynkel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 10:15 AM
I think it is sad you beleive you are the saviour when quite clearly you are not. I recommend perhaps some phsychological councelling.
I am sorry that you cannot realise that I am the saviour, while your only hope to save yourself is to realise that I AM THE SON OF GOD AND, CONSEQUENTLY YOUR SAVIOUR. You recommend some phsychological councelling; you mock me and you obviously imply that I am a phychopath, or something like that. I am not annoyed by your mockery; I know that my ancestor, Jesus Christ, faced the same kind of mockery. He was called a fraud, a madman, a fake, he was mocked and he was crucified. I know that I will face the same contempt and persecution that he faced. Son, for your own sake, throw the devil out of your heart and submit to me. For I am the True Life.

[fitzcarraldo]

I am sorry that you cannot realise that I am the saviour, while your only hope to save yourself is to realise that I AM THE SON OF GOD AND, CONSEQUENTLY YOUR SAVIOUR. You recommend some phsychological councelling; you mock me and you obviously imply that I am a phychopath, or something like that. I am not annoyed by your mockery; I know that my ancestor, Jesus Christ, faced the same kind of mockery. He was called a fraud, a madman, a fake, he was mocked and he was crucified. I know that I will face the same contempt and persecution that he faced. Son, for your own sake, throw the devil out of your heart and submit to me. For I am the True Life.

I know you are not Jesus for a fact becuase: OF this&#33;


And suddenly Dan Brown came and brought light into my life. Now I know everything; I am the descentant of Jesus Christ; I feel his presence into me, into my blood.
Jesus does not talk like this.

[RevMARKSman]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 05:47 AM

I am sorry that you cannot realise that I am the saviour, while your only hope to save yourself is to realise that I AM THE SON OF GOD AND, CONSEQUENTLY YOUR SAVIOUR. You recommend some phsychological councelling; you mock me and you obviously imply that I am a phychopath, or something like that. I am not annoyed by your mockery; I know that my ancestor, Jesus Christ, faced the same kind of mockery. He was called a fraud, a madman, a fake, he was mocked and he was crucified. I know that I will face the same contempt and persecution that he faced. Son, for your own sake, throw the devil out of your heart and submit to me. For I am the True Life.

I know you are not Jesus for a fact becuase: OF this&#33;


And suddenly Dan Brown came and brought light into my life. Now I know everything; I am the descentant of Jesus Christ; I feel his presence into me, into my blood.
Jesus does not talk like this.
What would Jesus talk like today?

This thread is just too much... :lol:

[adenoid hynkel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 10:47 AM

I am sorry that you cannot realise that I am the saviour, while your only hope to save yourself is to realise that I AM THE SON OF GOD AND, CONSEQUENTLY YOUR SAVIOUR. You recommend some phsychological councelling; you mock me and you obviously imply that I am a phychopath, or something like that. I am not annoyed by your mockery; I know that my ancestor, Jesus Christ, faced the same kind of mockery. He was called a fraud, a madman, a fake, he was mocked and he was crucified. I know that I will face the same contempt and persecution that he faced. Son, for your own sake, throw the devil out of your heart and submit to me. For I am the True Life.

I know you are not Jesus for a fact becuase: OF this&#33;


And suddenly Dan Brown came and brought light into my life. Now I know everything; I am the descentant of Jesus Christ; I feel his presence into me, into my blood.
Jesus does not talk like this.
First of all I did never say that I am Jesus; I am the descendant of Jesus. Secondly how can you know that "Jesus does not talk like this."? Jesus&#39; mind is beyond your limited human comprehension, and so you cannot know how Jesus would talk or why Jesus would say or do something. Can you understand why the Merciful God allows the death of thousands of innocent children? NO, because you cannot understand God&#39;s Motives with your limited human brain. In the exact same way you cannot understand why I, the descendant of Our Lord, would say this;


And suddenly Dan Brown came and brought light into my life. Now I know everything; I am the descentant of Jesus Christ; I feel his presence into me, into my blood.

You cannot understand why a descendant of Jesus would say something like this, because I, as the descendant of Jesus Christ, am beyond your limited human comprehension.

In this thread, when these atheist communists told you that there is no God, you answered very wisely; you told them "can you prove that there is no God&#39;&#39;?
In the exact same way I ask you " can you prove that I am not the descendant of Jesus&#39;&#39;? If you can, prove it. But if you can&#39;t prove it I think that , for your own sake, you should embrace me, as the descendant of Jesus Christ and as your saviour.

[fitzcarraldo]

First of all I did never say that I am Jesus; I am the descendant of Jesus. Secondly how can you know that "Jesus does not talk like this."? Jesus&#39; mind is beyond your limited human comprehension, and so you cannot know how Jesus would talk or why Jesus would say or do something. Can you understand why the Merciful God allows the death of thousands of innocent children? NO, because you cannot understand God&#39;s Motives with your limited human brain. In the exact same way you cannot understand why I, the descendant of Our Lord, would say this
I understand.


You cannot understand why a descendant of Jesus would say something like this, because I, as the descendant of Jesus Christ, am beyond your limited human comprehension.
This is true.


In this thread, when these atheist communists told you that there is no God, you answered very wisely; you told them "can you prove that there is no God&#39;&#39;? In the exact same way I ask you " can you prove that I am not the descendant of Jesus&#39;&#39;? If you can, prove it. But if you can&#39;t prove it I think that , for your own sake, you should embrace me, as the descendant of Jesus Christ and as your saviour.
Are you really my Lord? :blink: On an internet forum?
Gee, I guess You really do work in mysterious ways. :unsure:

[adenoid hynkel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2006, 01:11 PM
Are you really my Lord? :blink: On an internet forum?
Gee, I guess You really do work in mysterious ways. :unsure:
The Lord works in mysterious ways. Who would guess that He would send His Son on Earth in the form of a carpenter? A carpenter?????????????????? A king would be reasonable. A general maybe? Or a scientist? A nobleman? All these would seem reasonable, but God chose to send His Son in the form of a carpenter. This fact should show us that God, indeed, works in mysterious and unpredictable ways.