Originally posted by Citizen Zero+--> (Citizen Zero)Here in the UK there has been over one thousand wrongful arrest of Asian Britons since 9/11. My question is this: has this repressive and paranoiac clampdown been happening in the States, Canada and other countries?[/b]
As far as I know, in America, the veil of "counter terrorism" has been used to disguise routine attacks on immigrants in general. That is, those affected, are not specifically Muslim....and though there are no doubt instances of the specific targeting of Muslims, the general practice just seems to be the targeting of "non-white" immigrants, regardless of their superstition or lack there of.
Indeed, even in Britain, the people most affected by the "anti-terrorism legislation" have been young Black men. And, given immigration patterns, these men are not, generally speaking, Muslims. They are far more likely to be either Christians or atheists.
And really, the evidence in favour of the idea that there is routine targeting of Muslims, is pretty thin. Rather, the British State seems to just be doing "business as usual" and targeting immigrants in general....rather than Muslims specifically. Which is why examples such as the one above seem so shocking. (?)
Of course, the insistence of some people on the left to conflate Islam with anyone "non-white", doesn't make it any easier for "non-white" people....certainly promoting such a stereotype makes it far easier for the State to mask its attacks on immigrants under the banner of "anti-terrorism".
Originally posted by Bill Shatner+--> (Bill Shatner)I can care less that two Islamic screwballs were persecuted or by whom they were persecuted by.[/b]
Well, to be honest, I'm not sure whether these two guys were actually Muslims. They were reported on suspicion of drug dealing if memory serves me correctly. But, still, I don't think it's wise for revolutionaries to support the State entering peoples homes and shooting them. After all, as I said, they were originally thought to be drug dealers....and I certainly would not be happy with the State started busting down the doors of the homes of folks who like to smoke a little weed.
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It's quite clear Bill is a racist - that's obvious.
It's not at all "obvious", unless Muslims have become a "race". But we've had this discussion before, and therefore, I know that your quite happy to link every "non-white" person with a primitive social paradigm.
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In order to "get rid" of religion, we have to remove the social system that makes people look for "other worldly" answers to their problems.
Nope, we have to remove it from the public sphere.
Which would still make attacks on the Religious in their homes inappropriate, as removing Religion from the public sphere means we respect peoples rights to practice whatever stupid shit they want to in private.
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We do not need Islamophobia on the left as well.
Yes we do. As the folks of the Iranian Worker Communist Party would gladly tell you.
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Plus, I've seen two people link current events with past fascism in this thread now, which is really stupid. You can criticise the State interfering in the private lives of people without resorting to the daft sensationalism of calling said State "fascist". Fascism is a specific thing and you destroy its meaning by babbling on about it in this manner.