If the cappies got to Cuba - Would you fight?

[commieboy]

say fidel dies before Bush is voted out, and bush finds a reason the invade Cuba. With Raul as a president, how many of you would actually risk your life, and your future (I know alot of us are young here) to fight for the socialist ideal. Honestly, if it came to that, i would take my cash, rifle and uniform and get my ass a rowboat, cause if it ever came to that i would fight for cuba.....how many of you would?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I'd join you, comrade! Anything to impede imperialism

(Edited by Victorcommie at 11:27 am on May 3, 2003)

[t29dmoney]

You guys are a bunch of idiots. By the time you put your little row boat out to sea the CIA will be on your ass. you think they dont monitor these sites.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I surely wouldn't go on a row boat with a few guys with AK-47s, instead, I'd join an opposition militia, or something of this nature in Cuba. I'd fly there, of course. If not military support, I'd give them my moral support.

[commieboy]

Like the CIA doesnt spend enough time looking at the Islam and militia sites....we're a bunch of kids on the internet, we mean nothing to them, but when those crazy rednecks post pictures of themselves with Ruger minis, and a bomb....thats the people they track down....we're not terrorists like the other people on their "Watch out for militants" patrols...we are JUST KIDS TO THEM!

[Lardlad95]

I think Cuba would be protected by Countries like Russia, China, and most of Europe if the US tried anything Post castro

and if they did I would hate the US with a passion unfelt by anyone in history


Not only would I burn the flag, I would piss on it to put out the blaze, dry the flag, burn it again, then kill bush and salt the earth on his grave so nothing could ever grow there again


but this would only happen if they invaded Cuba

[Subcomandante Marcos]

I don't think the US will try to invade that little island, since it has the support of the entire country for been a pilar of the revolution, besides Bush's popularity is not through the roofs nowadays and another belic approch to international affairs would surely not go unoticed like Irak.

Maybe the US will not try a forward approach on the Cuban problem, maybe it will be more political or economic.

All i know that if the US tried to invade MY country they would have to kill me in order to do so.

[metalero]

imperialism is knocking also in my country´s door...i would die for what i believe for, but in an honorable way. if an invasion to cuba occurs, thousands of volunteer from latinamerica and the world would go to the island to defend it, but i think US doesn´t need a military invasion. they have a huge economic and politcal blockade against the island, they´r trying to starve cuba to death, however cuba has shown its dignity and will to vercome the claws of imperialism. US is coming to colombia soon, however i wouldn´t join the FARC, but i will give my life for cuba.

[ComradeRiley]

If the US tried anything on Castro or Cuba, i'd gladly die to protect them, the US makes me so angry!

[Leftist Spider]

I'd sure join. Let's hope the [email protected] is out before Fidel is out.

But I have my doubts. It doesn't matter whether it's Bush or whatever - imperialism lies in the policy of the United States. They will attack Cuba sooner or later. If there were one conspiracy theory I believed in, this would be it: that the US has had, ever since WWI, a secret document outlining the future policies for having a global empire, and they are now following those steps one by one. PNAC - the publicized form of that letter or whatever the f*ck it is. :shocked:

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Though I'd join the oposition, I'm very hesitant to bvelieve that the US will actualy invade Cuba. Bush would never do something so controvertial as a Cuban invasion. No one, not even Blair would back him up. There would be no justification, not morality, no legitimacy. Whatever Bush may spew out as "justification" for war, won't be believed by anyone, except maybe his buddies in Texas.

[Kapitan Andrey]

commieboy,Victorcommie,metalero,ComradeRiley,Lefti st Spider...I'm with you, guys!!!



Quote: from Lardlad95 on 9:47 pm on May 3, 2003
I think Cuba would be protected by Countries like Russia, China, and most of Europe if the US tried anything Post castro.


I don't think so! Our countries didn't stopped yankee, when they attaked Iraq...so they willn't do it again, but I'm sure, that there will be A LOT of volunteers to fight and die for Cuba !!!

I didn't wanted to die for bloody dictator Hussein(I just wanted yankee's and tomme's deaths as much as possible!)
But I will stand for Cuba!!!

yankee, HANDS OFF FROM CUBA!!!

metalero...you said about "FARC"...of coz you shouldn't join them!!! They are narco-revolutioneers.....they are not even revolutioneers...they are bandits...so they are NARCO-BANDITS!!!

[metalero]

kapitan andrey, I don´t wanna fall into the same line as Uribe, bush or the other facsists calling FARC Narco-terrorist or some other BS. They have made many mistakes and his guerrilla campaign has become a dead end war, but they have been politically isolated by a tremendous propaganda caused by the cuasi-fascist colombian govemnt. and the burgoise media. but the situation in colombia is as radical as it is the war caused by the colombian bloody oligarchy. pehaps if che was still alive he´d be figting in colombia with a united guerrilla and urban front.

[ComradeRiley]

Kapitan Andrey nice one I think Cuba has alot of support, we will kill those damn yanks

[Dan Majerle]

I don't want to sound really negative but if the US did try and invade Cuba, the war would be over in a matter of days. Cuba, like any other third world country would be smashed. Would it still be worth it ending your lives when all you would receive out of it is possibly your name inscribed on a metal slab buried in the ground next to thousands of others dead. Why die for something that has no chance? I'm not insulting Castro or anything i'm just curious and wondering if there is any honour in dying?

[ComradeRiley]

Dan Majerle your negative attitude is why we would not repel the yanks.
Che Guevara and Fidel Castro have alot of respect from me because of what they have done and accomplished and as Che did, I would gladly die to keep Cuba as it is.
That country is symbolic that we can defeat the yanks.

P.S. i have promotion! im now Guerillero :-)

[Sensitive]

Quote: from Dan Majerle on 2:50 pm on May 4, 2003
I'm not insulting Castro or anything i'm just curious and wondering if there is any honour in dying?
I can't think of anything more honorable then dying for socialism while fighting a bunch of invading, imperialist thugs.

Gurgling to death in a nursing home is not going to help the international proletariat!

[WhoWillFight]

I would be there to fight no matter what the chances of success. Would it be better to roll over and let them walk all over us Dan?

[Blibblob]

Down with the American infedels!

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from Kapitan Andrey on 6:34 am on May 4, 2003
commieboy,Victorcommie,metalero,ComradeRiley,Lefti st Spider...I'm with you, guys!!!



Quote: from Lardlad95 on 9:47 pm on May 3, 2003
I think Cuba would be protected by Countries like Russia, China, and most of Europe if the US tried anything Post castro.


I don't think so! Our countries didn't stopped yankee, when they attaked Iraq...so they willn't do it again, but I'm sure, that there will be A LOT of volunteers to fight and die for Cuba !!!

I didn't wanted to die for bloody dictator Hussein(I just wanted yankee's and tomme's deaths as much as possible!)
But I will stand for Cuba!!!

yankee, HANDS OFF FROM CUBA!!!

metalero...you said about "FARC"...of coz you shouldn't join them!!! They are narco-revolutioneers.....they are not even revolutioneers...they are bandits...so they are NARCO-BANDITS!!!



Sir there is a massive difference between Cuba and IRaq


no one in Europe was willing to stand up so mch for Iraq because it wasn't as important to them


but we all know that if the US invades Cuba they will have no reason whatsoever

not even a reason they could concoct

[the SovieT]

the americans dont need to attack Cuba...

they only ahve to wait for it to fall into theyr hands...

all they need is to wait that Fidel dies...
when he dies so does the revolution and decades of popular resistence agains the imperialistic forces...

you say waht you say about Fidel...
call him what you fucking want...
but whos fucking protectig that island and keeping it standed and strong is comrade Fidel...

(Edited by the SovieT at 1:14 am on May 5, 2003)

[tebvie]

I don't think Bush will attack Cuba "first" anytime soon. What I see happening, and I can say atest to this because I live in the US, is that soon the US will find some crumy way to convince the US people that Fidel has something to do with terrorist attacks. It wouldn't surprise me they would do this top get support from US people to attck a country that obviously hasn't done anything yet.

[Sandanista]

fucking idiots, cuba is NOT a socialist country, it never has been!!!!

at the same time the US wouldnt need to invade Cuba, when Fidel dies power will be restored to the democratic capitalist, instead of the autocratic ones

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from commieboy on 6:34 pm on May 3, 2003
Like the CIA doesnt spend enough time looking at the Islam and militia sites....we're a bunch of kids on the internet, we mean nothing to them, but when those crazy rednecks post pictures of themselves with Ruger minis, and a bomb....thats the people they track down....we're not terrorists like the other people on their "Watch out for militants" patrols...we are JUST KIDS TO THEM!


That's what you would like to think, the admin of Raisethefist.com had been arrested, another site of "children".

A Greek member of us got arrested for a post he made here.

Edit: I wonder If I would go and fight to defend Cuba, I don't believe Cuba is a place where you can fight a effective geurilla battle against a large army.

The Jungles of South America on the other hand are a perfect spot for Geurilla fighting.

(Edited by CCCP at 7:29 pm on May 5, 2003)

[Domino]

I would fight for Cuba, of course I would. And I agree, we are not just kids to them, even though I know they do have more things to do than monitor this board, they do keep an eye on it.

[Hayduke]

This is a real hard subject to me, since its choocing two dillemas.

If would go out fighting, I would help Fidel castro stay in power and that is the last thing I want to do.

If I dont fight, Americans will be sure to let the socialist party there, not take place in the democratic new gonverment.

I would wait untill the americans are actually in and then I will be helping the people, to get the pigs out again.

[Hayduke]

Quote: from tetelives on 7:52 am on May 6, 2003
I would fight for Cuba, of course I would. And I agree, we are not just kids to them, even though I know they do have more things to do than monitor this board, they do keep an eye on it.


About the whole " we are just kids " subject, I dont act suprised some of you might think that we are, since we think we add no value to a war battle.

History has proven otherwise, in the time of the sovject union, many youth parties from over the whole world went to special training camps in countries as Albanie, Russia ect.
They came back as full trained, skilled " city guerillias " and formed a great threath for the gonverment of there country. For Example | De Rode Jeugd ( the red youth ) in Eindhoven ( holland ) they placed bombs under policecars, majors car, a shell station, the city hall ect. All the attacks were well tought of and practiced in precision.

We're not just kids, we are the new generation of left thinking people.

[commieboy]

listen....i can relate this to Iraq, even though they were a brutal dictatorship think of this. there must be millions of Islamic websites, where people just like us, vowed to take the infidels out of Iraq. but instead watched it on CNN. we can all talk, but can we all act? i dont know now that i think, i want to fight soo desperately for somthing i believe in. but then theres that moment, the moment when you decide to leave your family, and risk your lives and futures. i dont know if at that moment i'd get on the boat, or the plane, or what ever. but i think this is very similiar to Iraq, so all of you, who have said you'd fight, rethink, repost, because right now im feeling more proud of socialism, and the revolutionary government than ever before...I WOULD FIGHT!!!

[Comrade H]

I’d just like to quote a poem by Martin Niemoller, a priest who lived in Germany under the Nazis

“When the Nazis came for the Communists
I was silent
I wasn’t a Communist
When the Nazis came for the Social Democrats
I was silent
I wasn’t a Social Democrat
When the Nazis came for the Trade Unionists
I was silent
I wasn’t a Trade Unionist
When the Nazis came for the Jews
I was silent
I wasn’t a Jew
When the Nazis came for me
There was no one left
To protest for me”

Pretty powerful stuff. If we, and our countries don’t stand up and fight any US invasion of Cuba (or any other country for that matter), we will simply let the US war machine annex what it like, until it turns its eyes on us, by which time we will be too weak to save ourselves. Hear the cry Comrades - RESIST AND FIGHT!

[sc4r]

Quote: from Subcomandante Marcos on 12:33 am on May 4, 2003
I don't think the US will try to invade that little island, since it has the support of the entire country for been a pilar of the revolution, besides Bush's popularity is not through the roofs nowadays and another belic approch to international affairs would surely not go unoticed like Irak.

Maybe the US will not try a forward approach on the Cuban problem, maybe it will be more political or economic.

All i know that if the US tried to invade MY country they would have to kill me in order to do so.


You are right. There is virtually no chance that the US will invade Cuba because it knows full well that there would be not merely a lack of popular support but complete antipathy to such a move.

What the US will do is continue to chip away at the resolve of the people and attempt to subvert their belief, exactly as it has done for at least 30 years.

Actually the fact that the US does not attempt to overthrow the Cuban government is about as positive a proof as you could wish for that it knows it is telling lies about the political situation there. It has never shown releuctance to get involved anywhere where there was a snowballs chance that it might garner even moderate public support.

up till the fall of the USSR this might have ben explained as fear of consequences. Today it's transparrent that the fear is about the certain failure it would face in establishing what it so frequently says is what Cuban desperately want.

BTW I'm very far from being a kid. I'd love to say that I would fight for Cuba if it became neccessary, but I wont say it because I'm not sure I would have the courage.

The initaial step towards courage though is to say that you would do a thing. Some will say it and when the time comes not have the will to follow through but the first step is to have the courage and fire in your belly to say that you will, and I applaud you 'kids' for that alone.

(Edited by sc4r at 2:00 am on May 7, 2003)

[CompadreGuerrillera]

im sure you all are aware that Cuba doesnt stand much of a chance against the U.S. and certainly not in open-battlefield-type combat, unless you know the terrain, and jungles, and what not u can not fight as effectively as the local forces, none the less, u have less training (im sure) than the US and Cuban sides, and would be unknowlagable of the terrain as the US but without US GI's training, so im sorry u will DIE if you go there, the best thing is... FIGHT IN YOUR LOCAL AREA!!!! its where YOU can do the most good, not go to Cuba with an AK to get shot up and become a martyr, if we apply pressure to the US, they will be fighting both sides, so THIS plan will be more effective, WHEN THE TIME COMES, dont you think??

oh, one more thing: HI GOVERNMENT, HOW ARE YOU? MONITORING MY POST ARE YOU? THATS A SHAME I THOUGHT WE HAD FREE SPEECH ;)

just a little note for the gov't that is watching these posts

[Nick Yves]

Whats going to happen to Cuba when Castro passes away?

[CompadreGuerrillera]

probably Raul Castro will take the "throne". most likely there will be a huge wave of reformists in Cuba, perhaps even a U.S. invasion, though i doubt it. The revolution still has a popular support, altho i wouldnt be surprised if the cappie terrorists living in Florida will go back and try to "convert" the country to capitalism and ultamitely fascism, altho i dont think that this grim prediction will come tru.
what are ur thoughts?

[Dirty Commie]

I would go there and fight, but I fear that anyone who would go would be labeled a 'terrorist' or an 'enemy combatant' if captured.

Either way, you would be jailed for treason and eventualy killed.


Yeah, the fascists will try very hard to get to Cuba, but the rest world will intervene... I hope

CG, good point, Hi CIA-spy person, you suck, you have no life.

[Comrade Marcel]

Currently, Cuba is the only country I would be willing to fight and die for.

I would not even do that for my own country.

(Edited by Comrade Marcel at 5:56 am on May 9, 2003)

[Beano]

Ithink we forget that the regime is actually popular and the people of cuba would fight the US as they invaded.

[Sabocat]

Quote: from Comrade Marcel on 10:54 am on May 9, 2003
Currently, Cuba is the only country I would be willing to fight and die for.

I would not even do that for my own country.

(Edited by Comrade Marcel at 5:56 am on May 9, 2003)


I'm with you man.

[CubanFox]

If Cuba were invaded, I'd protest, sure as hell, and possibly, if I could, go to Cuba, not to fight, but just irritate the occupation force in whatever way I can without getting myself shot.

[Droes lee]

guerillas of al country's ,lands , community's unite and fight amerika's imperialism if the time commes

did you read this cia guy (( haha what dumb*ss would go in to the cia???)) good idea CompadreGuerrillera

[CompadreGuerrillera]

wow, i havent been arrested for speeking freely, and thought-crime, im surprised!
YET

[Kapitan Andrey]

Quote: from Comrade H on 11:30 pm on May 6, 2003

“When the Nazis came for the Communists
I was silent
I wasn’t a Communist
When the Nazis came for the Social Democrats
I was silent
I wasn’t a Social Democrat
When the Nazis came for the Trade Unionists
I was silent
I wasn’t a Trade Unionist
When the Nazis came for the Jews
I was silent
I wasn’t a Jew
When the Nazis came for me
There was no one left
To protest for me”


Damn it!!! This is true!!! yakns will crush us alone!!!

UNITE AND FIGHT!!!
UNITED WE STAND,DIVIDED WE FALL!!!

(Edited by Kapitan Andrey at 2:37 am on May 12, 2003)

[nz revolution]

I think what you said CompadreGuerrilla is wrong, just because you don't know the terrain you will die. LIke hell any of us would go in and fight alone. We would be apart of the cuban forces, so the comrades we would be with would know the area.

Although fire bombing the US embassy at home would be a massive thrill and a minor victory :)

[Republican Guard]

When I was in Cuba in March, I was very very curious to visit Guantanamo to see how the stronghold was laid out...

hint hint... ;)

Had many a day-dream fantasy about it, during the long rides between Havana and Varadero...

s.

[Nobody]

Somethings are more important than one person. You need to look for the good of the masses, which Communism/marxism are all about. So, count me in!

[CompadreGuerrillera]

hey nz, stop fantasizing, even if you join the Cuban forces, you will not have enough training, unless uve been in some kind of army training before, what Im trying to say is that you wont even have as much expirience as the standart US infantry, or your Cuban comrades, but you all can comit suicide and destroy your usefulness in the revolution for all I care, im not going to argue with your choice, im just saying, fight in your local area

[commieboy]

Most of the 26th of july fighters had't any military training, except Fidel showing them how to shoot. People!!! READ GUERRILLIA WARFARE BOOKS!! they are awesome for tactics even if you've only got a knife, read about THE VIETCONG TECHNIQUES!! learn booby traps, survival tactics. If you plan to ever fight a war like this, get learning while you're young, i am. read about the Afghans fighting the soviets. or the Cubans, or the somalians, these people had shit, and fought off the world's superpowers, I MAY NOT BE A 100% COMMIE, BUT I SURE AS HELL AM A MILITANT, I KNOW TACTICS, MANUEVERS, think, if all of us learned these, and we did go to fight, WE WOULD BE THE LEADERS!! with our knowlege, we could control the Guerrilla forces. so familiarize yourself with Guerrillia warfare before you jump in the plane or boat to Cuba

[CompadreGuerrillera]

excellently put commieboy, see, we need to train, read tactics, and then we can fight

[Kapitan Andrey]

commieboy...well said, comrad!!!

[spitfirerlb]

i think the most important question is would the cuban people fight this themselves?
the situation would become destabalised therefore can we really be sure of the Cuban's response. Of course, if the US were to launch a direct assault of sorts the Cuban respnse would be predictable. But that is not likely, the US tactics in such a situation have been rehearsed and known for decades. The situation would be one of a "puppet government" being installed and would the population be aware?

My answer, comrades, is yes. I would fight for the Cuban people and for Socialism on a global level.
After highschool I plan on joining the army and however hypocritical you may think that is, nowhere else can we obtain such training and skills needed in revolutionary combat. We must fight for what we believe and throughout our lives the actions we take should ultimatley lead to an end goal and for me that goal is a Socialist Revolution. Cuba is the last true stronghold and we must rally to it.

[NeedForRevolution]

i just want to say that i cant fight yet i am only 15.......
but if the german government would continue looking away if the US attacks cuba.......
than i will fight against my own government at all costs