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R_P_A_S
7th June 2006, 11:57
Ok. Im trying to make a list of all revolutionary groups or armies in the world.

Mexico- The EZLN right?
USA? WHO?
Canada, is there any?
Central America (Belize to Panama)
Colombia- THE FARC? anyone else
Venezuela?
Brazil?
Peru
anyways you get the idea...

How about in Europe?

Spain- ETA?
France-
Eastern Europe?
Asia? anyone in Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, India, etc?

is Al-Qeida consider this? or are they just plain out of it?

RedAnarchist
7th June 2006, 12:00
Al Qaeda are certainly anti-capitalist, but they are far-right religious fundamentalists and are enemies of the people as much as Bush and Blair are.

There's the Maoists in Nepal and India that are doing quite well.

R_P_A_S
7th June 2006, 12:05
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 09:01 AM
Al Qaeda are certainly anti-capitalist, but they are far-right religious fundamentalists and are enemies of the people as much as Bush and Blair are.

There's the Maoists in Nepal and India that are doing quite well.
hey thanks! i will take note of them and do some research.

who do you think are like the top 3 groups with the most artillery and man power?

R_P_A_S
7th June 2006, 12:25
by the way. I would like to only include those who fight oppression with out the crazy extremist religion mind set. like he mentioned.

bcbm
7th June 2006, 12:39
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 02:58 AM
Mexico- The EZLN right?
Yes. Also EPR and ERPI


USA? WHO?

None to speak of, really. ELF/ALF but they're not all that revolutionary.


Colombia- THE FARC? anyone else

ELN


Brazil?

MST is rumored to be working with Red Command, but otherwise, not that I'm aware of.


Peru

Sendero Luminoso


Spain- ETA?

GRAPO


France

Not really. Some Breton and Corsican seperatists, though the latter are prone to racism


Eastern Europe?

PKK and some others in Turkey, a whole shit motherfucking ton in Greece (N17, Anti-State Struggle, more, more and more)

R_P_A_S
7th June 2006, 12:52
right on! keep em coming!. how about the black panthers?

RedAnarchist
7th June 2006, 12:55
The Black Panthers don't exist anymore in the way they did in the 1960's and 1970's, even though there is still a lot of discrimination towards African-Americans in the US.


If you ever hear of a New Black Panther Party, never link the two - the NBPP are nowhere near the real Black Panthers idealogically.

bcbm
7th June 2006, 13:14
http://www.tkb.org/Category.jsp?catID=5

http://www.tkb.org/Category.jsp?catID=3

http://www.tkb.org/Category.jsp?catID=7

Be sure to check the dates, many of the groups listed are now defunct.

Felicia
7th June 2006, 13:51
I believe that Venezuela has a group called the Bolivarianos, or Bolivian Circles. I think it's mainly a youth organization, but it's worth a further look.

bcbm
7th June 2006, 13:54
Venezuela also has the Movimiento Revolucionario Carapaica.

Felicia
7th June 2006, 13:54
well, how come you didn't mention that before :P

edit: wait, it's in one of those links.... I guess you win this one too :ph34r:


EDIT: oh, I see that Canada's on the main list. Presently I don't believe we have any "revolutionary" groups, but in Quebec during the 70's there was an organization knows as FLQ. Quite an interesting history, the canadian prime minister at the time (and love of my life ;) , Trudeau ) anctually declared Martial Law, whoa.

EDIT AGAIN: oh yeah, and the PCQ, the Quebec Communist Party, I hear are quite active, and have strong ties to the labour movement and unions or what not, I could be wrong.

Connolly
7th June 2006, 14:50
Ireland

INLA - Irish National Liberation Army - Marxist :hammer:
Political wing - IRSP

CIRA - Continuity Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist
Political wing - Republican Sinn Fein

RIRA - Real Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist

PIRA - Provisional Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist

"Twiggies" - (not sure now) Military wing of the Workers Party - Marxist

LVF - Loyalist Volenteer Force - Unionist

UVF - Ulster Volenteer Force - Unionist

CRF- Catholic Reaction Force - As its name suggests :lol:


Some of these may not exist anymore - particularly the "twiggies".

Connolly
7th June 2006, 14:57
Also, If your interested in Anarchist groups - Greece must be number one.

That link provided is very good for what your trying to do

Greece Anarchist Groups (http://www.tkb.org/Country.jsp?countryCd=GR)

ComradeOm
7th June 2006, 15:09
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 10:52 AM
I believe that Venezuela has a group called the Bolivarianos, or Bolivian Circles. I think it's mainly a youth organization, but it's worth a further look.
Weren't they set up by Chavez as some sort of neighbourhood watch?

The Feral Underclass
7th June 2006, 15:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2006, 09:58 AM
Spain- ETA?
ETA isn't a revolutionary organisaiton, they're a national seperatist movement who, as far as I'm aware, don't oppose capitalism.

The Grey Blur
7th June 2006, 15:42
Twiggies
Hee hee hee - It's "stickies", not twiggies :lol:


Ireland

INLA - Irish National Liberation Army - Marxist :hammer:
Political wing - IRSP

RIRA - Real Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist

PIRA - Provisional Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist

LVF - Loyalist Volenteer Force - Unionist

UVF - Ulster Volenteer Force - Unionist

CRF- Catholic Reaction Force - As its name suggests :lol:
Why did you list all these? Not one of them is directly a revolutionary organisation, they're all paramilitaries and some of them are completely bigoted and right-wing murder squads


ETA isn't a revolutionary organisaiton
Yes, the original idea seems quite strange - do we include all violent groups or only anti-capitalist ones?

Connolly
7th June 2006, 15:49
Hee hee hee - It's "stickies", not twiggies

Woops - I wasnt too sure about them anyway.

Have you any information on these PR. I havt heard much about them?

As far as I know they are gone a long time ago.


Why did you list all these? Not one of them is directly a revolutionary organisation, they're all paramilitaries and some of them are completely bigoted and right-wing murder squads

:lol: my mistake again - I thought he might have meant sort of illegal military groups/paramilitaries.

R_P_A_S
7th June 2006, 20:50
Originally posted by Permanent [email protected] 7 2006, 12:43 PM

Twiggies
Hee hee hee - It's "stickies", not twiggies :lol:


Ireland

INLA - Irish National Liberation Army - Marxist :hammer:
Political wing - IRSP

RIRA - Real Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist

PIRA - Provisional Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist

LVF - Loyalist Volenteer Force - Unionist

UVF - Ulster Volenteer Force - Unionist

CRF- Catholic Reaction Force - As its name suggests :lol:
Why did you list all these? Not one of them is directly a revolutionary organisation, they're all paramilitaries and some of them are completely bigoted and right-wing murder squads


ETA isn't a revolutionary organisaiton
Yes, the original idea seems quite strange - do we include all violent groups or only anti-capitalist ones?
That's a GREAT question... I would only like to Include those who fight for equality, freedom, their rights. Not some crazy group or cult thats racist or extremist, religious or what not.

More Fire for the People
7th June 2006, 21:19
USA?
There are a number of revolutionary groups, but none of them are engaging in any armed activities. The main groups: RCP and the Communist League.

Canada, is there any?
I believe the Revolutionary Communist Party of Canada [Organizing Committee] is engaging in non-amred struggle.


Colombia- THE FARC? anyone else
ELN, but there liberation theologists [religious nuts with guns].


Asia? anyone in Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, India, etc?
Communist Party of Nepal (Maoists) who up until recently were actively engaged in warfare, Communist Party of India (Maoist), and the Ceylon Communist Party (Maoist).

The Grey Blur
7th June 2006, 21:33
Have you any information on these PR. I havt heard much about them?
Yeah, they were sort of unofficial Stalinists and declined rapidly after the 60's - the IRSP broke away from them


:lol: my mistake again - I thought he might have meant sort of illegal military groups/paramilitaries.
:lol: OK. Mind you I'm not explicitly condemning any of them (I would give limited support to some of the INLA and PIRA actions) just what they were engaged in was less 'capital R' Revolution as it was resisting the British presense in Ireland


I would only like to Include those who fight for equality, freedom, their rights. Not some crazy group or cult thats racist or extremist, religious or what not.
Well hmm...Shining Path in Peru are hardly a brilliant example of this - they're quite vicious with anyone who defies them, no matter the grounds

BTW - I think you'll find that most Left-Wing groups are considered 'extremist' - it's actually a label a lot of us embrace (but that's another story for another thread)

Omar-forever
7th June 2006, 21:57
The Maoists of India and Nepal, even though, have similar ideology are separate entities. I am an Indian so I can tell you about the Maoists of India.
But Before that I would like to tell you that the Maoist Insurgency in Nepal is a Success Story. The Monarchy in Nepal has been deposed and Nepal is headed to a Secular, Democratic and Socialist Path.
In India, it is an entirely different story. India is a massive country. It is diverse in cultures and races of humans. The Maoist movement is more or less concentrated in the Tribal East and South East Regions of the country.
In these regions the control of the state is minimal. The tribal communities do not get any amenities from the government. So they support this movement.
Do you want to know more. I can give you a bit of their history.
There are other violent movements in India. Especially in Jammu & Kahmir (Nort India) and Nort East India.
In J & K the separatists are mainly Islamic fundamentalists supported by Pakistan.
In North East India ther are a few groups like the NSCN (IM) which operate from neighbouring countries.
In Sri Lanka there is the LTTE, which had perpetrated the assassination of an Indian Prime Minister.

Felicia
8th June 2006, 00:12
Originally posted by ComradeOm+Jun 7 2006, 09:10 AM--> (ComradeOm @ Jun 7 2006, 09:10 AM)
[email protected] 7 2006, 10:52 AM
I believe that Venezuela has a group called the Bolivarianos, or Bolivian Circles. I think it's mainly a youth organization, but it's worth a further look.
Weren't they set up by Chavez as some sort of neighbourhood watch?[/b]
I have no clue, but that's possible. I first heard about them only a few years ago and I know they're in support of Chavez. They have over 2 million members you know :P ...... *internet search*.....Here's some informaion, if you're interested. :) Circulos Bolivarianos (en espaņol) (http://www.circulosbolivarianos.org/) , Bolivarian Circles (http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=3971) , Bolivarian Circles: a Grassroots Movement (http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1026)

bcbm
8th June 2006, 00:25
Originally posted by The [email protected] 7 2006, 05:51 AM
Ireland

INLA - Irish National Liberation Army - Marxist :hammer:
Political wing - IRSP

CIRA - Continuity Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist
Political wing - Republican Sinn Fein

RIRA - Real Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist

PIRA - Provisional Irish Republican Army - Republican Nationalist

"Twiggies" - (not sure now) Military wing of the Workers Party - Marxist

LVF - Loyalist Volenteer Force - Unionist

UVF - Ulster Volenteer Force - Unionist

CRF- Catholic Reaction Force - As its name suggests :lol:


Some of these may not exist anymore - particularly the "twiggies".
He's asking for Revolutionary groups... I don't think the Loyalists qualify (nor some of the IRA groups, for that matter).


ETA isn't a revolutionary organisaiton, they're a national seperatist movement who, as far as I'm aware, don't oppose capitalism.

ETA is a Marxist-Leninist organization who seeks the creation of a socialist Basque state.

R_P_A_S
12th June 2006, 21:56
the reason im looking to get info on various revolutionary groups around the world is because I plan to write a novel? or a book, short story or whatever about a world wide revolution consisting of various liberation and revolution armies from all over the world. coming together to start the revolution. I want it to be as relevent(sp?) as possible