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FinnMacCool
5th June 2006, 06:52
I would like to start learning more about economics from a radical perspect, most specifically of an anarchist viewpoint. Does anyone know of any relevant links to stuff that talks about it? Many thanks.

anomaly
5th June 2006, 06:57
Anarchist economics are based on the assumption of advanced productive capacity--very advanced. I think the most important thing about such a system will be advanced communication between production centers and other production centers as well as between production centers and distribution centers.

However, the system which, theoretically at least, precedes anarchism--collectivism--will probably use some sort of TLV system. So here's a good thread on that subject.

TLVs (http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=45039)

ComradeOm
5th June 2006, 15:42
Try the Study Groups. There was a thread or two in there on Marxian economics the last time I checked.

CCCPneubauten
5th June 2006, 18:26
As ComradeRed, he is the best at it.

Janus
5th June 2006, 19:35
As ComradeRed, he is the best at it.
Yeah...
But I have to warn you that he is quite esoteric and his explanations are very mathematicall involved, so it may leave you with nothing more than a headache.

Try this site for basic info about anarchist economics or collectives
Question Everything (http://question-everything.mahost.org/)
and go to basic anarchist principles.

More Fire for the People
5th June 2006, 20:31
Wage-Labour and Capital (http://marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/index.htm)
Value, Price, and Profit (http://marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1865/value-price-profit/index.htm)
Estranged [alienated] Labour (http://marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/labour.htm)

FinnMacCool
6th June 2006, 01:01
Thanks for the links everyone.

Morpheus
6th June 2006, 03:27
Section C (What are the myths of capitalist economics? (http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secCcon.html)) and D (How Does Statism and Capitalism affect Society? (http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secDcon.html)) of the anarchist FAQ have some good stuff too.

Janus
6th June 2006, 03:35
Try the Study Groups. There was a thread or two in there on Marxian economics the last time I checked.
Yeah. They were basically chats between KC and anomaly. :lol:

Wow, what a coincidence, the member who's homepage I linked posted here as well.

anomaly
6th June 2006, 06:16
Well, those chats were more to further understand Marx's basic criticism's of the capitalist mode of production presented in Capital. One will find that KC and I simply ask ComradeRed a bunch of questions. :lol:

I think Finny was asking more about economics of the anarchist system. (?)

ComradeRed
6th June 2006, 06:19
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 08:36 AM

As ComradeRed, he is the best at it.
Yeah...
But I have to warn you that he is quite esoteric and his explanations are very mathematicall involved, so it may leave you with nothing more than a headache.

Try this site for basic info about anarchist economics or collectives
Question Everything (http://question-everything.mahost.org/)
and go to basic anarchist principles.
Well, try reading some of the original stuff, then you can come and talk to me about "esoteric explanations" :lol:

Granted, that I do take a more mathematical explanation, I have been working extraordinarily hard to write such that both mathematically literate and illiterate alike can understand and gain some sort of insight in my stuff.

It's not rocket science, but I'd like to see it as a science (or as scientific as possible ;)). In my own defense, it's the math's fault not mine :D

bezdomni
6th June 2006, 06:22
Haha, reading out of a math textbook is esoteric. They use a bunch of unnecessary words.

ComradeRed tries to make it as understandable as possible, but it's difficult to explain some things in a "simple" manner. However, CR's math is nowhere near as pretentious as it would be in a textbook.

FinnMacCool
7th June 2006, 00:36
I think Finny was asking more about economics of the anarchist system. (?)

Yeah no neccesarily criticism of capitalism. More like the way things could be run in anarchism, economically.

Janus
7th June 2006, 02:22
Well, try reading some of the original stuff, then you can come and talk to me about "esoteric explanations"
I didn't meant that you were impossible to understand but that some of your stuff is a bit advanced.


Granted, that I do take a more mathematical explanation, I have been working extraordinarily hard to write such that both mathematically literate and illiterate alike can understand and gain some sort of insight in my stuff.
Awesome, can you send me any of it?