Russian Communist Workers' Party - info about the party

[Revolution Hero]

RKRP is the Party of Leninist type
The Programme of the Russian Communist Workers’ Party (RKRP) is the programme of the rebirth of the country, which is based on acknowledging the objective law of humanity’s tendency towards communism. The process of the unification of the workingpeople corresponding to this law can be implemented if RKRP will be the Party of Leninist type:

the Party, which is the vanguard of the working class and hence of all the workingpeople, which links the scientific communism with the workers’ movement, with the workingpeople’s struggle for destroying any social inequality, for free and comprehensive development of all members of the society;

the Party, whose members regard the interests of social development as their own interests, who generously give off their efforts to the cause of liberation of labour, have no privileges by limiting themselves by a qualified worker’s pay and donating any income above that Party maximum for the needs of the Party;

the Party, in whose leading organs, including the supreme leading organ — the Congress, the majority belongs to the workers and peasants, which constitute the majority of the working people;

the Party, which grasps the dialectics, which develops and spreads the proletarian Marxist-Leninist ideology and fights with the bourgeois’ one, the Party, which does not tolerate any adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its members, who, under the guise of general human values, defend not the key interests of the working people, but the interests of those who steal from the people;

the Party, which protects its ideological and organisational independence, which is ready for united actions with other parties and movements for all practical questions of fighting for improving the people’s life;

the Party, which leads the theoretical, political and economical struggle for the interests of the workingpeople in all the forms;

the Party, which fights not for the power of another bureaucracy, but, together with the workingpeople, organises the establishment of the Soviet Power and helps its consolidation and development.

the Party of the communist action, of the communist initiative and of the responsible communist discipline.

Our aims are the struggle and the victory.

This way, the Programme of the RKRP is the programme of struggle of the working people themselves:

For their own interests!

For the future of our children!

For the destiny of Russia!

For socialism!

For the Soviet Union!

The struggle will not be easy, but we shall not be scared on the chosen way!

WORKINGMEN OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE!

Together we shall win.

More information at http://rkrp-rpk.ru/en/

[Kapitan Andrey]

Xa! Esh'E'' ODHA DUPAl_l,KAya-bE3nEPCnEKTl/lBHAya naptl/lya!!!

[redstar2000]

Well, RH, now that you've informed us what they say they're like, tell us what they're really like.

Are they going to follow a "parliamentary" road to socialism or are they going to engage in real class struggle?

:cool:

[Kapitan Andrey]

No...he is just a SPEAKER...he will only talk-talk-talk...
...and no actions!

[Revolution Hero]

Quote: from redstar2000 on 11:46 pm on April 28, 2003
Well, RH, now that you've informed us what they say they're like, tell us what they're really like.

Are they going to follow a "parliamentary" road to socialism or are they going to engage in real class struggle?

:cool:


First of all, I would like to say that this party criticized KPRF for their parliamentary struggle. Russian Communist Workers' Party called KPRF bourgeois- opportunistic party. This was their opinion and I didn't agree with it.
But recently RKRP (russian abreviation for Russian Communist Workers' Party) expressed its will to participate in the next parliamentary elections together with KPRF, forming one block. This doesn't mean that RKRP would limit itself only with parliamentary actions, as the leader of the party says, the party will defend the interests of the working people in Duma and at the same time it will prepare masses for the revolution. By the way, unlike KPRF, RKRP still believes in the violent revolution.
The idea of uniting all existing russian communist parties is very good. Revolutionary RKRP would be able to influence on KPRF, and probably this would lead to the creation of a more closer union and even ONE COMMUNIST PARTY.

[Kapitan Andrey]

"RKRP still believes in the violent revolution. "

Xa! They aren't alone...Limonovs are crasey people...they want to make a new revolution...I don't support them...

[antieverything]

the Party, which does not tolerate any adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its membersHere's the funny thing. Wasn't Lenin himself a revisionist?

[Ian]

antieverything you have to read the entire sentence mate "the Party, which does not tolerate any adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its members, who, under the guise of general human values, defend not the key interests of the working people, but the interests of those who steal from the people" Read it over and over, they are saying they will allow revisionists and other sorts into their midst.

Redstar- I looked around and http://members.aol.com/ISWoR/english/iswor...s/rkrp2001.html (http://members.aol.com/ISWoR/english/isworarts/rkrp2001.html) says thats RCWP (RKRP) isn't as active as Revolution Hero claims, it also has a few other points to it.

[Revolution Hero]

Quote: from antieverything on 10:04 am on April 30, 2003

the Party, which does not tolerate any adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its membersHere's the funny thing. Wasn't Lenin himself a revisionist?



No, he wasn't. Lenin was creative developer of Marxism, none of Lenin's ideas contradicts to Marx's theory.

[Revolution Hero]

Quote: from Ian Rocks on 5:58 pm on April 30, 2003
antieverything you have to read the entire sentence mate "the Party, which does not tolerate any adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its members, who, under the guise of general human values, defend not the key interests of the working people, but the interests of those who steal from the people" Read it over and over, they are saying they will allow revisionists and other sorts into their midst.




Revisionism itself is the betrayal of marxism- leninism, thus it doesn't defend the main interests of working people.

[Ian]

This party (RKRP) says any party "which does not tolerate any adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its members" defend the interests of the ruling class, not the key interests of the working class. Quite a liberal/revisionist view.
You however say, "Revisionism itself is the betrayal of marxism- leninism, thus it doesn't defend the main interests of working people." This is the antithesis of the party you support's official policy.

[Sandanista]

Lenin was an arsehole, so was the soviet union.

LONG LIVE MARXISM!!!

[Kapitan Andrey]

Hey-hey, watch it!!! I agree with Lenin was an arsehole , but don't touch SU!!!

[Revolution Hero]

Quote: from Ian Rocks on 9:50 pm on April 30, 2003
This party (RKRP) says any party "which does not tolerate any adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its members" defend the interests of the ruling class, not the key interests of the working class. Quite a liberal/revisionist view.
You however say, "Revisionism itself is the betrayal of marxism- leninism, thus it doesn't defend the main interests of working people." This is the antithesis of the party you support's official policy.


If the party doesn't defend the key interests of the working class, then it defends the interests of the bourgeois. I think it is very obvious.
Lenin said, that any oblivion of Marxism was the victory of the bourgeois class.

Sandanista prove your fucking words!

[Ian]

This party says that not letting a revisionist into your party is a bourgeois thing to do, Read it comrade!

[Revolution Hero]

Quote: from Ian Rocks on 10:17 pm on May 2, 2003
This party says that not letting a revisionist into your party is a bourgeois thing to do, Read it comrade!

The Party says: “the Party, which DOES NOT tolerate ANY adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its members, who, under the guise of general human values, defend not the key interests of the working people, but the interests of those who steal from the people”

It means that ANY adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists just pretend that they are fighting for the liberation of workers’ labor and hide their true face under the veil of deformed Marxism or other leftist ideology, but by doing so they indirectly help bourgeois class to destroy truly communist movement and progressive working peoples’ movement. This Party is very intolerable; it is true Marxist – Leninist Party.

What is not clear for you, Ian?

[Sandanista]

He bastardised marxism

[Kapitan Andrey]

Sandanista...you OUGHT to be banned!!!

You are saying kind'a BULLSHIT, and you wearing the signature by MAN, which would not liked you!!!

[Revolution Hero]

Kapitan Andrey has to be banned also.
Can someone from moderators explain me why I lost access to the Commie Club???
If I had access there, you andrey would have been banned long time ago. You are fucking lucky!

[Kapitan Andrey]

3EMJlyaK, Tbl 4E PIZDISH!? 4E ya TEbE CDEJlAJl???

Why should I be banned? WTF are you started this BULLSHIT?!?!

[Hate Is Art]

Lenin was not an Arsehole. You Are an Arsehole.

[Kapitan Andrey]

Little silly Digital Nirvana...

[b]LENIN WAS AN ARSEHOLE!!!
LENIN IS AN ARSEHOLE!!!
LENIN WILL BE ARSEHOLE FOREVER!!!

[Revolution Hero]

All I have to say is
BAN ANDREY!

[Aleksander Nordby]

Andrey is now enemy of all communist in the world!!

[Revolution Hero]

Andrey is the enemy not only of all communists, but also of all WORKING PEOPLE.

Hey, moderators, wake up!

[redstarshining]

"Lenin was an asshole..."
Well, did you know him personally? ;) otherwise, I don't know what you are trying to say. Please elaborate. Maybe we will learn something.

[redstarshining]

btw, I doubt that any communist party in any capitalist country today has a good chance of being successful by participating in the parliamentary system of a plutocracy.

However, I still think that it's better to be politically active in any way, than to just sit on ones own ass. I think that parliamentary work can still have at least a symbolic value. And educating the masses is probably our movements most important task.

[Sandanista]

Lenin turned what could have been the greatest revolution known to man into a joke, within 5 years he turned the SU into a state capitalist country which was further perpetuated by stalin.

some people really need an education between Socialism, state capitalism and capitalism.

I also agree with redstar as although the parliamentary route was never an option in the first place, its good to have someone with some power to defend the revolution on the streets

[redstarshining]

yes, I agree that it's sad that no country has ever developed beyond the point of state-capitalism, but was it really one man's ( Lenin's ) fault?

You have to take in account the economically extremely difficult situation the SU was in in it's early years. They had to rebuild the country's economy almost "from scratch", thanks to the despotic monarchy that died of it's own decadence shortly before and left everything in ruins.

If you are referring to the NEP which was introduced during Lenin's time, it was only planned as a temporary measure. Unfortunately Lenin died before this new policy could be removed.

Please note that I'm aware that mistakes have been made. I'm not saying we should copy everything from the past ( so no, I'm not a "revisionist", nor do I worship Lenin as a god ;) ), instead we should learn from our movements mistakes. In a society which is in constant change the way you put theory into practice has to adapt of course. How, is a different question which I have to admit I cannot answer.

However, I have great respect for what Lenin did for the working class in his country. If I had lived during his time, I would have supported him.

[Sandanista]

But lenin set the precendent of which was to be a world crisis, the Yanqui imperialist powers against the SU's imperialist powers.

Because the premature revolution that lenin lead, he plunged a country and its people into a pretty precarious situation.

I too would have supported lenin in his time, however seeing the mistakes that he made now makes me think otherwise

[Kapitan Andrey]

Revolution Hero...idi na XUY, KPACHO3ADbll/l ublyudok!!!

Aleksander Nordby...Ha-ha!!! You sceared me!!!

I BELIVE, THAT THERE CAN BE SOCIALISM, WITHOUT lenin!!!

[notyetacommie]

And without "red assed" brats, i.e socialists? What color is your ass, anyway? Yellow, green and red like an apple(Yabloko with Yavlinsky, supported by you, no doubt have such multicolor asses--following your logic, that is. Being overly aggressive towards communists while claming to be socialist sometimes means you are a fascist (remember Hitler and Hussain).
BTW, do you happen to know that Yavlinsky ( whom, as I know, you voted for at the last elections) decided to make friends with communists to dismiss the current government? Do you know that your beloved Putin was a KGB agent AND a communist?

[Cybercide]

hmm do not ban him, let the him have his foolish opinion, he is too stupid to hurt us.

[Red October]

hmm do not ban him, let the him have his foolish opinion, he is too stupid to hurt us.

Yup, you just necro'd a 5 year old thread and no one in it is still around. Awesome!

[SamiBTX]

[quote=Revolution Hero;46447]RKRP is the Party of Leninist type
The Programme of the Russian Communist Workers’ Party (RKRP) is the programme of the rebirth of the country, which is based on acknowledging the objective law of humanity’s tendency towards communism. The process of the unification of the workingpeople corresponding to this law can be implemented if RKRP will be the Party of Leninist type:

the Party, which is the vanguard of the working class and hence of all the workingpeople, which links the scientific communism with the workers’ movement, with the workingpeople’s struggle for destroying any social inequality, for free and comprehensive development of all members of the society;

the Party, whose members regard the interests of social development as their own interests, who generously give off their efforts to the cause of liberation of labour, have no privileges by limiting themselves by a qualified worker’s pay and donating any income above that Party maximum for the needs of the Party;

the Party, in whose leading organs, including the supreme leading organ — the Congress, the majority belongs to the workers and peasants, which constitute the majority of the working people;

the Party, which grasps the dialectics, which develops and spreads the proletarian Marxist-Leninist ideology and fights with the bourgeois’ one, the Party, which does not tolerate any adventurists, anarchists-primitivists, liquidationists, opportunists and revisionists amongst its members, who, under the guise of general human values, defend not the key interests of the working people, but the interests of those who steal from the people;

the Party, which protects its ideological and organisational independence, which is ready for united actions with other parties and movements for all practical questions of fighting for improving the people’s life;

the Party, which leads the theoretical, political and economical struggle for the interests of the workingpeople in all the forms;

the Party, which fights not for the power of another bureaucracy, but, together with the workingpeople, organises the establishment of the Soviet Power and helps its consolidation and development.

the Party of the communist action, of the communist initiative and of the responsible communist discipline.

Our aims are the struggle and the victory.

This way, the Programme of the RKRP is the programme of struggle of the working people themselves:

For their own interests!

For the future of our children!

For the destiny of Russia!

For socialism!

For the Soviet Union!

The struggle will not be easy, but we shall not be scared on the chosen way!

WORKINGMEN OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE!

Together we shall win.

More information at **************quote]


I while back I wrote РКРФ (KPRF) telling them that I exist & if I happen to ever be in
Russia I'll pay them a little visit.:D

[Luís Henrique]

Those guys are lucky that Karl Marx isn't around any more. Imagine if Old Karl woke in a bad mood and decided to reduce their programme to shambles like he did to the Gotha Programme...

Luís Henrique