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18tir
24th May 2006, 04:50
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff/1359741

Above, I'm showing you all an example of the sick racism that has apparently taken over a large part of the modern neoconservative movement. This is not meant to deride all conservatives, but I think the mainstream Republicans should condemn this disgusting attack on Iran. The slogan reads;

"Iran wants nukes? Give them to 'em!"

And people are expected to wear this slogan on their shirts, hats, pins and coffee mugs. Its sad how the situation in this country has sunk so low that a popular website is advocating the mass murder of millions of innocent people. Its even more amazing that many people consider this to be funny or, even worse, a serious option in the current dispute over Iran's nuclear program. This is the type of propaganda one would expect from the Nazi Party or the Ku Klux Klan. Frontpagemag must remove this racist link from its site immediately.

FriedFrog
24th May 2006, 10:30
And Che Guevara T-Shirts make them sick.

What are ya gonna do? People have different opinions.

KickMcCann
24th May 2006, 15:12
As simple-minded as that logo is, I'm not sure if it qualifies as racist. Racism usually implies directly or indirectly some kind of superiority or inferiority based on ancestral heritige or outward physical appearance as it realates to one's qualities, abilities, or position in society.
This shirt does not do that, but it is overtly nationalistic and belligerent. Iran is multi-ethnic with Persians, Turkmens, Arabs, Kurds, Jews, Balochs and certainly many others, so who in Iran would this be directed against?

Conversely, is this an image of racist sentiment?

click here (http://www.hansrossel.com/fotos/fotografie/iran/ir_d1142.htm)

No, of course not. Out of the 100+ ethnic groups in the United States, which one is this directed against??? It is not racist, but nationalist and belligerent. This is not to say there is no racism in the right-wing on either side of the Iran-US conflict, there certainly is. But one should have a discerning eye when applying titles such as racist, otherwise the word will lose all meaning.

Ander
24th May 2006, 16:35
Right wingers are so stupid. :(

Spartacist
24th May 2006, 17:14
I concur with Comrade KickMcCann; that's not racist, merely warmongering.

backwardsbulldozer
24th May 2006, 23:20
The good thing about that is, it's going to make everyone who owns one look bad in about fifty years, if they're still alive.
This Contra Cafe link is pretty unbelieveable.
http://www.contracafe.com/

Ander
24th May 2006, 23:59
http://images.blogads.com/khbncmfhufofu/ri...thumb?rev=rev_3 (http://images.blogads.com/khbncmfhufofu/rightwingstuffleftcolumn/3437919/thumb?rev=rev_3)

I thought that one was pretty funny. :lol:

bayano
25th May 2006, 00:11
Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2006, 09:12 AM
As simple-minded as that logo is, I'm not sure if it qualifies as racist. Racism usually implies directly or indirectly some kind of superiority or inferiority based on ancestral heritige or outward physical appearance as it realates to one's qualities, abilities, or position in society.
This shirt does not do that, but it is overtly nationalistic and belligerent. Iran is multi-ethnic with Persians, Turkmens, Arabs, Kurds, Jews, Balochs and certainly many others, so who in Iran would this be directed against?
see, i think that we have to think about the interpretation and analysis of the potential customer.

this brings me back to panama. i remember my family's horror at the US public's response to the drive to war before the 1989 invasion. dennis miller on saturday night live's weekend update walked up to the map behind him and physically cut panama off it, implying that it should be bombed off the face of the earth. my mother's gringa hairstylist (who did not realize the ethnicity nor nationality of the woman who she was doing the hair of) vocalized this sentiment exactly. now, panama is an incredibly multi-ethnic society thanks to different patterns of immigration from all over africa, europe, asia, the african diaspora and the indigenous, but as far as this hairstylist or dennis miller know everyone in panama is a mestizo stereotype.

but the people who buy these shirts are not generally the intellectuals of the neo-con movement, they are the half-wits who march in rightmarch.com organized events. they think iran is populated by Arabs, and know nothing of persian identity or the farsi language. in many cases (check out any of many political messageboards or chatrooms on the internet for evidence) they simply want a genocide of ____insert_racial_slur_here____. this absolutely can be racism depending upon the fool wearng it.

Mesijs
25th May 2006, 14:07
http://www.contracafe.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ftred.jpg

This one is disgusting.

As is the site.