Terrorists come through mexico US border

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Comrades,

In another forum I was debating on I came across an article that stated that there are terroists that sneak into the US through the US mexico border. I personally disagree with the idea of building fences and putting soldiers on a the border in order to stop working class human beings from trying to feed there family but I don't know what to say about this.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles...e.asp?ID=22249

[Hit The North]

Your link isn't working (for me, at least).

If there are terrorists sneaking through the Mexican border, they don't seem to be doing much. When was the last terrorist attack inside the USA?

[OneBrickOneVoice]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=22249 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22249)

whoops

heres the link.

It states that the CIA and FBI just halted a operation than planned on doing so...

[Hit The North]

Sounds like propaganda to me, Comrade. I also followed the link to the Times article. Of course, the Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a confirmed imperialist.

The whole report is based on info from the CIA. After the 'weapons of mass destruction' in Irag lies they told a few years ago, I wouldn't believe those guys if they told me that water was wet.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Sounds like propaganda to me, Comrade. I also followed the link to the Times article. Of course, the Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a confirmed imperialist.

The whole report is based on info from the CIA. After the 'weapons of mass destruction' in Irag lies they told a few years ago, I wouldn't believe those guys if they told me that water was wet.

true but I'll be called a looney if I say something like that to the cappies. I hate the idea of the US becoming more fascist and locking up borders and etc... but something has to be done if there are in fact terrorists.

[More Fire for the People]

The 9/11 terrorists either legally immigrated or crossed the US-Canada border to enter the United States.

[Janus]

It states that the CIA and FBI just halted a operation than planned on doing so
How did they do that? They don't really have a presence on the border.

All the 9/11 hijackers got here legally. It's a possibility that they could sneak through but there's also the chance that they could get caught and then there would a major problem.

[Nachie]

Originally posted by Citizen [email protected] 19 2006, 09:05 PM
Of course, the Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a confirmed imperialist.
It's funny, I got a mental image of a giant arm holding a stamp coming down from the sky and branding Murdoch on the forehead with "IMPERIALIST".

[violencia.Proletariat]

Pure bullshit. If the terrorist hype is real, why aren't we dead yet if its a free walk across the border? It's a contradiction to make out al-queda to be some real organized threat and yet have a whole in the story (the open border).

[OneBrickOneVoice]

well we wouldn't even be in this shithole of a mess if we weren't so imperialistic and didn't support Israel so god damn much. Anyhow, I don't "Well we're not dead yet so it's fine" is a good excuse.

[Entrails Konfetti]

It wouldn't make sense to have members of a terrorist group to come through illegally. The terrorists take classes secretly over here, and need some sort of legal job--they need to appear legitimate until they're called for duty. Besides theres too much of a risk in getting caught crossing the border, and its not like the potential terrorists don't need papers to get into any of the in South American countries. Once they enter South America they'll be on the CIA radar.

Also, it would break morale for the terrorist organizations to have their members endure such horrendous conditions.It would be like having the Mafia have its major members be "positioned" as janitors for a bogus business.

[OkaCrisis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 04:55 PM
Pure bullshit. If the terrorist hype is real, why aren't we dead yet if its a free walk across the border? It's a contradiction to make out al-queda to be some real organized threat and yet have a whole in the story (the open border).
Closing the border under the pretense of "protecting America from terrorists" is indeed pure propaganda. Who was the last terrorist you ever heard of that crossed the border to then wage 'jihad' against the Ranch in Texas? (Although that would be awesome.)

Closing the border is simply (and in light of the recent HR 477 scandal, quite obviously) an action against "illegal" immigration from Mexico, under the guise of the War Against Terror. It's simply to keep those "damn Mexicans" in the Maquillas for slave wages, and out of the States where they may take "good jobs" away from "real Americans".

Plus, the increased militarization of the States is great for a failing economy. People don't have jobs? Join the Army! Build a walll!
But it will be a hard hit in the face when after building America into a fortress the economy doesn't improve and conditions only worsen (and they will). Then the people won't be able to blame illegal immigration, and they might actually look to the government when they ask questions about the gap between rich and poor.

Anyway, the claim that closing the border is protecting Americans from terrroism rates 100% on the Bullshit Meter.

[Rawthentic]

yeah, its pretty sick, this whole immigration thing. Its like these people work for horrendous wages in Mexico for US owned maquiladoras, or they have become unemployed from their small business by Walmart or Home Depot or Sears for example. Or maybe they were driven off there lands because they couldnt compete with the subsidized US corn or other crops that they saturate the Mexican markets with. They then have the desperate option of going to "el Norte" (the North) to try and find a better standard of living for their families. They work in sweatshops, construction sites, the fields, meat packing indutries, restaurants, and homes, still to get paid miserably and have there labor superexploited because they do not have a voice or any civil rights in America. So now the US government and La Migra are terrorizing these people that help the economy in a tremendous way, and try to force them back, an extreme irony if you ask me, besides the fact that they are crossing the border to chase the "American Dream" in that same country that was the cause of their misery back home.

[FinnMacCool]

There is bullshit all the time about terrorists sneaking in with nuclear bombs etc. ITs all a bunch of bullshit to keep us afraid.

[Rawthentic]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2006, 12:00 PM
There is bullshit all the time about terrorists sneaking in with nuclear bombs etc. ITs all a bunch of bullshit to keep us afraid.
right you are comrade. They make scapegoats out of immigrants and want to force them back, so as to secure the border from potential "terrorists". It just doesnt make sense for the most advanced capitalist nation in the world to try and get rid of such cheap labor that helps the economy in a huge way. Theyre such bastards and hypocrits

[PRC-UTE]

I don't think any of the hijackers came in through the Mexican border, did they.

If the US people are afraid of terrorists, the left needs to hammer home the message that imperialism is the cause of it, and no fence will really deal with that.

[Rawthentic]

exactly REPOMAN, they never see the root causes of extremist terrorism or of immigration. Its like they take it as they see it and never look any deeper. Imperialism is at the root of all these things, things that itself can never solve for the capitalism is in decay. For them to halt immigration at its root, they would have to suspend many of their NAFTA practices, which of course the will never do, since it would ruin their profit. It will eventually be its own downfall, thats for sure.

[Tekun]

Every couple of years a group of ppl are used as a scapegoat for current "problems" or deficiencies
During the 19th century it was Afro Americans
" " " " WW1 it was German immigrants
" " " " WW2 it was Japanese immigrants
" " " " during the 50's it was so called "communists"
" " " " during the 60's it was "hippies" and Afro Americans

So as history shows us, many nationalists and their government blame ethnic groups every couple of years for domestic problems, it just so happens that now they're blaming LatinAmerican immigrants for exposing the US to "terrorism" (not to mention Muslims in the time after 9/11)


Ther is no ounce of evidence that suggests that "terrorists" would come through the Mexican border
In fact, Canada has a higher concentration of Islamic inhabitants than all of LatinAmerica combined, if they were concerned with Middle Eastern terrorists coming into the US (according to some MALDEF source)
But the fact is that they don't care about terrorism
They're reason for closing the border is to keep their source of cheap labor illegal and thus unable to receive residential pay, benefits, or anything else that the citizens of this country are awarded

Pathetic and rather intolerant IMO

[chuq]

The US population needs a bda guy and since Bushy is not doing so well in the polls, because of Iraq and attsacks on social programs; the imperialistic forces have given the people a 'bad guy', those darn pesky immigrants. With their attention diverted, the government is freed up for now, while bigots like Dobbs, et al thump their chests like crazed primates and whip the American people into a disguised racist fury.

I have worked with 'illegals' and I will again for they are fine individuals and hard workers and not one of them talked or acted as a terrorist. So I agree the whole immigration thing is a large white pile of bovine fecal matter.

[Abakua]

The U.S openly welcomes and harbours terrorists see; Luis Posada, Otto Reich, CANF etc..

[R_P_A_S]

i think thats fake. its funny how all the sudden this news came up once the boycotts started. a terrorist coming in from mexico into the US for vacation will stick out like a sore thumb. they arent stupid.

[Eoin Dubh]

Originally posted by Hopscotch [email protected] 19 2006, 09:10 PM
The 9/11 terrorists either legally immigrated or crossed the US-Canada border to enter the United States.
The terrorists crossing from Canada lie was pushed by Hillary Clinton.

I think only one of them was ever in Canada before.

[Rawthentic]

Hilary Clinton huh? So much for our savior :P . anyway, I see this as small step towards fascism, a fascistic step, as was the bill that congress passed to make english the national language. This situation can be equated to Hitler in the 30's, when he claimed that the Jews were the cause of Germany's economic and social problems (even though they were great thinkers and moneymakers) and killed about 6 million of them. Now, I know that we are not killing millions odf immigrants, but armed vigilantes are. They are sometimes described as "sherriffs posses" and most of their arms that they have are free, delivered by sympathetic gun shop owners to the cause. They sometimes even refer to themselves as freedom fighters! ahh how sick this country is...

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Actually I don't think they're killing 'millions' more like zeros. The losers don't do crap. Otherwise I completely agree. It's funny how when you put it like that it can be so similair