What we can learn from the great depresion?

[Ultra-Violence]

I was wachting some films on the reat depresion....I saw how the communist at the time as well as regular working class people formed Unemployment Councils and how they organized the working class and led the marches and etc.........communist would also help out poeple who were bieng affected and them and anarchist togheter would fight agianst police operresion....

So my qeustion is what can we learn from this and what methods they used would be usefull in the futuer economic crisis?

Because history seems to be repeating itself..
mass inequality and not neccesaraly laying of workers but only alowing them to work part time and unemployment is growing little by little dont know about overproduction but i know we have an overwhling amount of food and as well in some other industry's

:hammer:

[amanondeathrow]

We can learn much from the great depression that will be useful if history repeats it self.

First of all revolutionaries must push for nothing less then socialism and must never side with the ruling class in its attempts to "reform" capitalism. Also, communist organizations must stop themselves from wasting time with electoral politics, which only serve to legitimize the capitalist system.

Most importantly, the depression illustrates that nothing is certain and it is the responsibility to make a revolution happen, even if the conditions make it seem inevitable by Marxist standards.

[Ultra-Violence]

First of all revolutionaries must push for nothing less then socialism and must never side with the ruling class in its attempts to "reform" capitalism. Also, communist organizations must stop themselves from wasting time with electoral politics, which only serve to legitimize the capitalist system.



True commrade but the communist of this era would form un-Employment Councils and organize marches and rally's and how could we use those methods today to "wake-Up" the working class and are thier any other methods we can use from other time periods in the present

[Morpheus]

Don't ever join a "new deal coalition" or support a bougeois party, ever. That's one of the main reasons there was no revolution: FDR coopted much of the left.

[The Grey Blur]

Electoral politics can serve as a platform for propagating Socialism

[YSR]

I tend to think that FDR was the worst thing ever to happen to U.S. Leftism.

[The Grey Blur]

What did he do?

[Morpheus]

He coopted the left and saved capitalism. See http://www.hooverdigest.org/011/lipset.html

[ComradeOm]

If it wasn't FDR then it would have been someone else. The Left went along with it because the New Deal was highly progressive.

[Ultra-Violence]

I wasnt talking about joinning a party or voting for canidates but ABOUT FORMING UN_EMPLYOMENTN COUNCLIS were wroking poeple and the un emplyoed can get toghter and help each other out also during the depression many people were working collectively to LIVE. they would share groceries and living space as well as clothing etc.... I STARTED THIS POST TO SEE HOW THIS CNA BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE NEXT DEPRESSION! cuase the early warning sings i are already starting to po up this is not a thread meant to be about F.D.R :D :D

[chimx]

so. what's everybodies opinion on FDR?

[which doctor]

Have any of you seen the film Cinderella Man?

Remember that part where Jim (James Braddock) goes to Hooverville in Central Park to try to find his friend (I forgot his name). His friend has mentioned organizing and fighting back before. In this sequence it looks like their is a riot going on in Hooverville.

Does anyone know of any failed attempts at a revolution during the Great Depression?

[rebelworker]

I think the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty (OCAP) is probably the best modern day example of the success of this kind of strategy. They organise around immirants and the unemployed in Toronto. Its been a long haul, they have been working at it for over 15 years, but they have several offices and a considerable support base.

Check them out.

I dont think its about "waking up" the working class, its about building skills and confidence so people feel collective strength enough to risk resisting the powers that controll their lives.

[Ultra-Violence]

Does anyone know of any failed attempts at a revolution during the Great Depression?

no real attempts but the closest thing has to be the "Bonus Army" march in D.C

[emma_goldman]

I'd say...

1) Most radical thought occurs in times of great hardship. This was true of the Depression. Use this to our advantage.

2) Abuse the privilege in #1 and finally take over. Make sure the populace is aware that this is the NATURE of capitalism.

3) BY NO MEANS, trust Keynesian economics. It's shit for the people.