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che_diwas
12th May 2006, 18:38
Hey Comrades....

As you all know that Nepal is facing its most crucial phase in its history. I think you are being updated in this matter through different mediums. We are facing high alert situation.

As you know that the Maoists and the new government of seven party alliance are
heading for peace talks and to form a new constitution, the feudalistic cliques of
royal palace is spreading different rumors to distract the people's movement.

There are several issues to solve for the government before they sit in talks with
the Rebels.

The fixtures are:

1. Release all the Maoist leaders, guerillas, cadres and other prisoners of idealogy kept in different jails of Nepal.

2. Release all the Maoist leaders, guerillas, cadres and other prisoners of idealogy kept in different jails of India which include top leaders Comrade Mohan Baidhya (Kiran) and Comrade Chandra Prakash Gajurel (Gaurav) .

3. Start talks.

4. Transformation of the Royal Nepalese Army into National Army which will be kept under people which is now under the King.

5. Monitor the arrangements of Constituent Assembly Election by a well known International Institute.

6. Management of Guerilla Militants and their weapons.

7. Conduction of Election of Constituent Assembly.

8. Establishment of Democratic Socialist Republic of Nepal.


The Maoists have been announcing that when they capture power in Kathmandu, the foreign policy of the national people's government to be set up by them would have the following features:

* All bilateral and multilateral treaties and agreements found unjust or unequal will be scrapped. All treaties that were secretly entered into will be made public and those that are not fair will be scrapped. Special facilities currently being provided to powerful countries will be ended.
* Will not be part of any military alliance and will protest any action that tries to subjugate a third country by force.
* Will follow an independent foreign policy and will not be a member of useless organisations such as the SAARC.
* Will keep all neighbours at the same distance, will follow and practise a policy of equality, friendship and understanding with all countries.
* Will not establish relations with countries that discriminate on the basis of religion, colour, caste or are carrying out military action against a third country. Existing treaties with such countries will be scrapped.
* Unjust military action will be opposed and help in all forms will be provided to the country against which military action is being taken.
* Aid in whatever form will be provided to people who are being oppressed in their particular countries and even if a civil war is taking place, the oppressed will be provided aid.
* Voices will be raised in the international forums to fight for the rights of land-locked countries.
* Only treaties that are equal and beneficial to both the parties will be signed, and exchange programmes will be held at regular intervals.
* Treaties that foster friendship and understanding will be promoted.

The Maoists have stopped the teaching of Sanskrit in schools and banned the singing of the national anthem in the areas controlled by them. They have introduced their own national anthem, which is a popular national song written by Madhab Ghimire "Gauncha geet Nepali jyotiko pankha uchali, jai, jai, jai Nepal, sundara shanta vishalî " (Nepalese sing the song rising light high; great, great and great Nepal - beautiful, peace and the great!).

Chandra Prakash Gajurel (Comdrade Gaurav), one of the top leaders of the Maoist movement, which is currently in Indian Prison has in an interview earlier this year described the achievements of the Maoists as follows:

"The major gain so far is the formation of the people's government. Mao always said the formation of the people's government is the central point of any revolution or revolutionary. The formation of the people's government is our aim, too. Our immediate aim is to destroy or get rid of the present system, which is feudal, class-ridden and is in the grip of corrupt middlemen and rich people, and establish a people's government. The formation of a government or a ruling body always has to be the final aim of any revolution, otherwise it is fruitless. Our party is moving in the direction of forming such a government."

"The central aim of any revolution in the world is the formation of the people's government, and therefore this power that we have gained after the sacrifice of many, many people, we consider the main achievement of our party so far. People who do not understand the formation of our people's government, do not understand the essence of our revolution nor will they ever understand the science of revolutions."

"The formation of our local governments is based on the path shown by Mao. Mao said that the villages should surround the cities and then slowly take them over. This will be a slow, drawn-out process, but the end result will be what we have always wanted. "

"Local areas will not be formed if the party does not show clear, precise ideas and thinking. If the parameters of the revolution are not drawn, then that revolution will just move in circles and not achieve anything. The formation of our people's government is a blow to all the opportunists in the country and proves that a people's government can still be formed in this rapidly changing world."

"By studying our movement and thinking, many like-minded parties are slowly moving in the direction we have shown. The formation of the people's war groups is the second most important achievement of our movement. Mao said that armed forces were the only possessions of the people, the absence of which meant that the people do not own anything. The formation and the working of the people's army in Nepal has proved Mao's thinking to be true. It is true that if we did not have the people's army, we would not have been able to form the people's government, nor have the resources or basis to strengthen it. A class struggle will take place until a class system remains in society."

"A class struggle will remain and its main aim will be the subjugation of class enemies. For that, the army is the main weapon. When we started our revolution in 1996, we did not have the people's army. Our army was not a different entity. At that time there were no clear differences between our army and other wings of our organisation. We started with these teams, fought with them and slowly, after making a lot of sacrifices, we have formed our people's army. Our army is now so powerful that the national police has also accepted defeat."

"In our struggle, we have now come to a point where the CPN (Maoist) has become an established party of the country. Not only this, we have now established our presence in the international arena too. Two political forces are present in the country. One is a very old system, which has become weak, outdated and irrelevant with the passage of time. People have now started shunning this system and are eagerly supporting the new system, which is very active in many parts of the country. In areas where the new system is in play, the old system is being rapidly uprooted and thrown out, and will never return.
"In the same way, there are at the present moment two armies in Nepal, one that has been formed by the people and their sacrifices and is called the people's army, and another, the slave of the class society, which is corrupt and class-ridden. Both armies are preparing to defend their ground."


"After Revolution in Nepal is successful, it will be the most powerful country in the world. The Nepalese movement is the most scientific, logical and modernized movement in the history of the entire world" - Che Diwas

The Red Salute

MurderInc
12th May 2006, 19:00
"After Revolution in Nepal is successful, it will be the most powerful country in the world. The Nepalese movement is the most scientific, logical and modernized movement in the history of the entire world" - Che Diwas

OK...time to stop sniffin that glue-stick.

Janus
12th May 2006, 21:06
Release all the Maoist leaders, guerillas, cadres and other prisoners of idealogy kept in different jails of Nepal.
The government has already released some of the top leaders that have been jailed including Matrika Yadhav and Suresh Ale Magar.


Monitor the arrangements of Constituent Assembly Election by a well known International Institute.
I think that NATO has proposed stepping in in order to help out with this.


The Maoists have been announcing that when they capture power in Kathmandu
By force? How can negotiations begin with that attitude? The Maoists have long stated that they want to establish multi-party democracy. Even Prachanda has expressed doubts about militarily taking over Kathmandu.

Ander
12th May 2006, 21:32
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2006, 03:00 PM
"After Revolution in Nepal is successful, it will be the most powerful country in the world. The Nepalese movement is the most scientific, logical and modernized movement in the history of the entire world" - Che Diwas

OK...time to stop sniffin that glue-stick.
Haha, yeah really. Don't get too far ahead of yourself there, Mr. Diwas.

I only heard that the rebels had issued a ceasefire...never anything about the transformation of Nepal into a Democratic Socialist state. Although that would be quite awesome.

Janus
12th May 2006, 21:46
I only heard that the rebels had issued a ceasefire
They are beginning talks

Prachanda to head talks (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4764805.stm)

The Maoists have always insisted on establishing a multi-party democracy and not a socialist state.

Red Heretic
13th May 2006, 08:35
"After Revolution in Nepal is successful, it will be the most powerful country in the world. The Nepalese movement is the most scientific, logical and modernized movement in the history of the entire world" - Che Diwas

I think what he means is that Nepal is the spark and the focal point for the next wave of proletarian revolution all over the world. The success of the revolution in Nepal directly effects the Maoist revolution in India, and indirectly effects the revolution in the Phillipines.

The Nepali comrades are the hope of the entire world proletariat for what they can bring to the world in terms of leading the world revolution.


The Maoists have always insisted on establishing a multi-party democracy and not a socialist state.

Untrue, their goal is to establish socialism through all of the stages of revolution. Nepal is currently a semi-fuedal country, and it needs a New Democratic revolution first, which can then spark the socialist revolution like it did in China.

You can't skip the bourgeois democratic stage and leap straight into socialism. Chairman Prachanda has set the goal of establishing the dictatorship of the proletariat within 5 years of the success of the New Democratic revolution.

che_diwas
13th May 2006, 18:15
Thank you Red Heretic for taking my side...

Some of you are mistaken... I said that quotation as after the revolution is successful... not in the current situation.... and its far from over...

This will surely take time but the end will be ours...

You guys dont know the real status behind our country's revolution..

please dont believe 100% in the nepalese media.. they are part of the burgeois revolution...

the people are shifting toward maoism because the parliament parties have not delivered what the people wants.. they are still fighting within themselves for post and power.. so when two sides fight the third side will take advantage... and the third side are the maoists...

our country will not be like USSR but imagine the maoists winning majority of the seats in the parliament...

The maoists of Nepal are the communists of the 21st century so they know what the people want...

dont worry about the foreign affairs because China wont give a damm what happens in Nepal and for India .... well the Indian government's remote control is in the hands of the left parties like CPI M and other socialist parties of India which are a great fan and inspired by Prachanda....

Well Janus, I didn't said that the maoists will capture the country and capital militarilly but inside them and for all communists their main goal is a socialists state back in their mind...

If you have any confusion please comment and post your views... they are also welcome...

At last thanks for suppoorting the people of Nepal and their revolution.... I have mentioned all of you specially Red Heretic and Janus for your great support for the revolution of Nepal to all of my friend and comrades... they have also thanked you guys for your tremendous working ability...

At last I would like to appeal to you that please dont belive the posts that "Sevarian" posts about Nepal..

Believe the posts of Janus and Red Heretic.. they are not known to me but whatever they post are true...

I think "Severian" is a Conspiration agent sent by the feudalistic cliques or the anti communist movement... hey Severian if you really believe what the capitalists media tells you I ask you to come to Nepal see for yourself... I have been living in Nepal for more that 20 yrs and you cant know better then me about the revolution of Nepal...

The Red Salute

Janus
16th May 2006, 23:52
Untrue, their goal is to establish socialism through all of the stages of revolution.
I was talking about the initial phase. If that is not their goal then that means that the Maoists have changed their agenda.


Prachanda has consistently stated that he seeks the establishment of a multi-party democracy rather than a one-party dictatorship, which is what I meant by socialist state.

Originally posted by Prachanda
I am going to address this question very seriously. Three years ago, at a Central Committee meeting of our party, analyzing the experiences from 20th century communist states, we put forward a proposal for the development of democracy.

In the 21st century we cannot have a state like those of the 20th century.

That's why our Central Committee unanimously passed this paper on the development of democracy in the 21st century.

The spirit of this paper is that there should be peaceful competition between all political parties against feudalism and foreign imperialist forces.

And that there should be multi-party competition. Since then we have said that within a certain constitutional provision multi-party competition [should exist] as long as it's against feudalism, against foreign imperialistic interference and all political parties can compete against each other.

And this document was unanimously passed three years ago in very clear terms.

In the agreement that we recently made with the political parties, we have clearly stated that we agree to multi-party competition.

What we have seen from the 20th century, and the lessons that we have learnt from the experiences of the 20th century, a very important question was - to understand the subject of democracy and dictatorship we need to develop a new consciousness for this.

And we have passed this.

Our opponents have understood us in a dogmatic way. We are not dogmatic but our opponents are. They are looking at us with 20th Century glasses. But we are already moving into the 21st Century.

[We are looking at] the kind of state that is possible in the 21st Century, how to give people the maximum possible rights; how to organize competition; and how to guarantee that this competition does not lead to oppression and suppression.

In short, democracy and dictatorship....How to make use of this conflict between them - we are developing on this.

And from this process of development, we have termed, development of democracy. People think that our commitment to the multi-party competition is purely a tactic and that we are trying to cheat someone.

But in reality we have taken the experience of an entire century, discussed it, analyzed it in our party, and we've come to a conclusion that the development of democracy is necessary in the 21st Century.

That's why we take multi-party competition very seriously.

We want to move forward. Even in our understanding with the parties, we have said that we don't want autocracy; that we have to crush the feudal autocracy that exists today.

It will never propagate multi-party competition.

Events have proved this.

Not only now - four years ago, when the royal massacre happened, we saw that the feudal autocracy was snatching away the rights that we gained in the 1990 democracy movement.

The parliamentary parties were also against the royal massacre.

That's why we appealed to the political parties to join us and build a platform, and [we said] we are ready to compete with you, and the feudal autocracy was a common enemy of ours and we should fight against it.

And we have been talking about multi-party competition since then.

I strongly believe we need to understand this clearly.

Janus
18th May 2006, 13:17
The king's powers have now been officially curbed by parliament


Originally posted by BBC news
Under the plans, the royal family will pay tax and parliament will control the army and name the heir to the throne.

The proclamation has been described as a Nepalese Magna Carta, effectively making the king a ceremonial figure.

The move follows mass street protests in April which led the king to recall parliament and end direct palace rule.
Cutting the king's powers is a key demand of the pro-democracy protesters and of Maoist rebels who have fought for a republic for 10 years.

The interim government's proclamation overrides the 1990 constitution, which handed most power to parliament but kept the monarchy involved in politics.

Mass protests

MPs had been due to discuss the issue of the king's powers on Monday but the debate was put off while politicians fine-tuned their plans.
Correspondents said the proposals were sure to be adopted as governing parties account for more than 90% of MPs in the 205-member parliament.

The plans include bringing 90,000 troops under the direct control of the parliament and bringing the royal family and its assets under the tax net.

The move also scraps the royal advisory council, the Raj Parishad, that has the authority to name the heir to the throne - a power that will now be held by parliament.

Parliament has already voted in favour of holding elections to a constituent assembly which could than draft a new constitution and determine the future role of the monarchy.

King Gyanendra seized power in February 2005 accusing his government of not securing peace talks with Maoist rebels and failing to prepare for elections.