A bugs Life..

[R_P_A_S]

I've always liked this movie. is this moview viewed as a communist, socialist type of computer animated flick?

is there a story behind it?

[Communism]

Well seeing it is made by an American company used to make profit I highly doubt there is a socialist story behind it and that is just speculation.

[Dyst]

Here:
http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/index.php?showtopic=47098

[which doctor]

Watch Antz instead. It is a much better film.

[The Grey Blur]

Bug's Life will always be better than Antz despite the counter-revolutionary lies

[bolshevik butcher]

Was antz not a negative parody of a socialist society?

[zero_ware]

It's been a long time since I saw Antz or Bugs Life...I remember enjoying Antz more though.

[which doctor]

It's more of a criticism on Stalinism than it is on socialism.

[Nachie]

I haven't seen Bug's Life but Antz was brilliant.

If you watch carefully, there is a lot of subliminal communist imagery and philosophy in it, including some really blatant things like the close-up of a red fist smashing up from out of the earth at the end. "Insect-topia" is of course a critique of religion and there is even a scene where the dialogue goes something like "the workers have taken over the means of production!"

Of course it's all done lightheartedly because it's Woody Allen, but the message is profoundly communist and the result at the end is in fact, explicitly, the abolition of classes.

[Comrade Marcel]

I haven't seen Antz, but bugs life seems to me to be reactionary gesture towards Fuedalist romanticism.

Let's get things clear here: the ants in bugs life are fighting the capitalists who want to profit from their surplus value, to keep a monarchy that profits form their slavery.

However, it's apolitical enough that maybe you could view the grasshoppers as imperialists and the queen as national bourgeoisie... hmmm. Another example of amrchair activism. Which neo-Marxist student will get his PhD for writing an thesis on this? ;)

[FinnMacCool]

Are people really seriously discussing the revolutionary benefits of Antz and Bugslife, two children films created by big corporations?

[Comrade Marcel]

Well, as a parent I must admit it is interesting to talk about this, at least to the extent of being able to explain various POVs to younger comrades.

[Brownfist]

Comrade Marcell, I know you are going to laugh but I actually wrote a paper last year on the commodification of childhood. So I was one step away from the Antz arguement. I really think we need to look at what we feed our children because kids learn bourgeois ideology from the discourses that are deployed through films/cartoons/comics. I mean children are taught capitalism through these mediums designed by children.

[Nachie]

The Trots have already been sweatin' A Bug's Life for a while now:

http://www.newyouth.com/moviereviews.asp

For some reason the movie review itself has become a 404 error, but as you can see it was on there. I remember reading it too and it was extremely pretentious and filled with dense marxist terms heavy-handedly applied to a kids movie... very silly.

[Comrade Marcel]

Brownfist: Agree. When I first got into investigate political ideologies the only thing I knew about communism was what I learned from G.I. Joe and Rocky...

Nachie: That's too funny! I thought only MIM did that. I would have liked to read it though.

I actually wrote about Ninja Turtles once when I was bored:
http://free.hostultra.com/~mrodden/review/tmnt.htm :lol: