I need information on Boycotts, etc!

[R_P_A_S]

Before i made effort to learn what capitalism, communism, socialism is. with out realizing I have always tried to take a stand against injustice or anything that was harming the people or my self.

For example when I found out that Banana Republic had a sweat shops in Brunei, Honduras, and other parts of Asia i stop shopping there.

When I found out The Gap owned banana republic i stop going there too.

those are just some examples. I was wondering who or what are some companies who i should look into that perform unsafety work habits, or that exploit other people.

[Leo]

those are just some examples. I was wondering who or what are some companies who i should look into that perform unsafety work habits, or that exploit other people.

Well, they all do that. Not many clean companies around. Here are the worst of the worst:

Wal-Mart
Gap (Banana Republic)
J. Crew
Exxon Mobil
Chevron Texaco
Royal Dutch Shell
GE
BMW
Ford
GM
Hyundai
Mitsubishi
JP Morgan Chase
Altria (Phillip Morris)
BAT (British-American Tobacco)
Dillard's
JC Penney
DuPont (Lycra)
Kohl's
May's (Robinson May, Lord & Taylor)
KMart
Dow Chemical (Saran Wrap)
Advanced Micro Devices
Intel
Abbott Labs
Monsanto (Equal/Nutrasweet)
Rite-Aid
Tyco
Nestle
Wyeth (American Home Products)
Disney/ABC
MCI Worldcom
Chiquita
ConAgra (Beatrice, Butterball, Hunts, Redenbacher)
Smithfield Foods
Tyson Foods/IBP Meats
Tosco
Unocal
Interfor
Boise Cascade
Georgia Pacific

I did try to collect some articles about crimes of each company. They are mostly taken from non-socialist sites, hardly five percent of all corporate crimes but grim enough. I tried to post it but it doesn't fit. If anyone is interested, send me mail and I'll attach and send you the word file.

[R_P_A_S]

Originally posted by Leo [email protected] 12 2006, 01:42 AM

those are just some examples. I was wondering who or what are some companies who i should look into that perform unsafety work habits, or that exploit other people.

Well, they all do that. Not many clean companies around. Here are the worst of the worst:

Wal-Mart
Gap (Banana Republic)
J. Crew
Exxon Mobil
Chevron Texaco
Royal Dutch Shell
GE
BMW
Ford
GM
Hyundai
Mitsubishi
JP Morgan Chase
Altria (Phillip Morris)
BAT (British-American Tobacco)
Dillard's
JC Penney
DuPont (Lycra)
Kohl's
May's (Robinson May, Lord & Taylor)
KMart
Dow Chemical (Saran Wrap)
Advanced Micro Devices
Intel
Abbott Labs
Monsanto (Equal/Nutrasweet)
Rite-Aid
Tyco
Nestle
Wyeth (American Home Products)
Disney/ABC
MCI Worldcom
Chiquita
ConAgra (Beatrice, Butterball, Hunts, Redenbacher)
Smithfield Foods
Tyson Foods/IBP Meats
Tosco
Unocal
Interfor
Boise Cascade
Georgia Pacific

I did try to collect some articles about crimes of each company. They are mostly taken from non-socialist sites, hardly five percent of all corporate crimes but grim enough. I tried to post it but it doesn't fit. If anyone is interested, send me mail and I'll attach and send you the word file.
yea it be good to know what those companies do that's bad or whatever. ya know?
so email you to get the articles or what?

[Leo]

Yeah, just send my an email through RevLeft, and I will send you what I got.

[anti-authoritarian]

You missed Coca-Cola.

[Global_Justice]

i would say delibratly boycotting things doesn't do much practically, however it does help morally. boycotting something won't make a difference, but it makes sense to do it for peace of mind.

[Comrade_Clare]

The boycott of Coca-Cola is an important one to support - it involves the worker and there is a huge base of support for the boycott.

The other one I would suggest you look into is Nestlé.

[bolshevik butcher]

Don't get sucked up into lifestylism. A boycott in my view is only worth taking part in if it is part of a further coordinated workers struggle. Don't spend time doing boycotts that could be spent better active on the ground. The coke one for instance is worth doing because it's part of the cocacola workers struggle in columbia.

[Leo]

You missed Coca-Cola.

Shit, you're right :o .


i would say delibratly boycotting things doesn't do much practically, however it does help morally. boycotting something won't make a difference, but it makes sense to do it for peace of mind.

Yeah, it might give a peace of mind, but when you think about it, in a Capitalist economy, whatever you buy, the money goes to the capitalists. I usually try to prefer small businesses, petty-bourgeois, rahter than big companies but it doesn't change anything.


The boycott of Coca-Cola is an important one to support - it involves the worker and there is a huge base of support for the boycott.

I think I've heard of that. Coca-Cola is one of the most disgusting companies and it is one of the biggest symbols of capitalism. :angry: Down with Coca-Cola...


Don't get sucked up into lifestylism. A boycott in my view is only worth taking part in if it is part of a further coordinated workers struggle. Don't spend time doing boycotts that could be spent better active on the ground. The coke one for instance is worth doing because it's part of the cocacola workers struggle in columbia.

Yeah, you're right. You might boycott this company or that company, and buy from someone else, but you don't damage capitalism with doing that. But in specific cases, you might be helping workers by doing that.

[bolshevik butcher]

I would dismiss this idea of moral help as bad. In class struggle it doesn't make a difference, yet it creates the illusion that you are doing something. That is not good, personal morality is none-entity in a class war. I agree with you about damaging capitalism, you are right agaoin on helping a specific struggle, like coke or south africa. The other thing a boycott does when there is a workers struggle on is it makes workers aware that they have support elsewhere which must be a great lift when you have all the power of the capitalist state and an international corporation against you.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by Clenched [email protected] 13 2006, 12:08 AM
Don't get sucked up into lifestylism. A boycott in my view is only worth taking part in if it is part of a further coordinated workers struggle. Don't spend time doing boycotts that could be spent better active on the ground. The coke one for instance is worth doing because it's part of the cocacola workers struggle in columbia.
Hurray hurray hurray!

You have finally found the spell check and become competent in sentence structure...I knew the day would come!

Anyway, I agree with Clenched Fist here. Boycotting is very pointless, although can potentially make you feel momenterily better. I don't eat at McDonalds or drink Coca-cola because I think these are obviously the two most obvious symbols of economic and cultural imperialism the west has to offer.

However, you can't get bogged down in this concept of boycotting as a radical form of protest because it won't achieve anything. Organising actions against these companies and the root cause of their existence is how you stop them from being around.

[RaiseYourVoice]

I myself boycott some big criminal companies like coca cola, nestle, mcdonalds etc. i think if you are informed about those you can symbolic state the crimes capitalism leads too. I think boycott is good because its an easy way to show your point of view and get people to discuss it. The bad side about boycott is obviously that you might loose focus for the big goal. It might make you feel that changing the way companies are mangaged is a way to get rid of problems.

If you dont forget about the revolution and boycott is only one way of your action i think its good.

[Dyst]

I drink Coca-Cola, eat at McDonalds sometimes (though not too often since their food doesn't taste too good), etc. whenever I have enough money to do so.

I do it because I enjoy it.

Does that mean I am not a revolutionary? No.

Does that mean I am a person who enjoys good food and eats it whenever I can? Yes.

I am obviously against crimes of corporations, but that is why I am a communist. Nothing will change if I (or even all of us) started boycotting.

The market would find other ways to sell and exploit.

[bolshevik butcher]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2006, 12:57 PM
I myself boycott some big criminal companies like coca cola, nestle, mcdonalds etc. i think if you are informed about those you can symbolic state the crimes capitalism leads too. I think boycott is good because its an easy way to show your point of view and get people to discuss it.
TAT I've always loved you at heart too man :rolleyes:

Anyway, my point with this is no it doesn't. The only eprson that knows oyur boycotting is you. The argument that it makes you feel better is highly flawed. You shoudln't take part in an action that you percieve as helping the class struggle if it isn't as has clearly been shown above. As for Dyst, I personally wouldn't criticise you for that. It's much more important to be politically active and aware than not eating or drinking the wrong stuff. I mean these lifestylsists probably all own items made in sweatshops.

[bolshevik butcher]

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