New to communism and need guidance

[British Warrior]

Hi, First to introduce myself my name is British Warrior and im new to Communism. I agree with the theorys of communism. I want to be clear about a few things though-
1) Do you guys support the IRA and their terrorist methods. Pesonally I think they are scum but many commies seem to agree with their cause.
2) What is your oppinion of the Chineseleader and his treatment of his people. Persoanlly I think he evil and treats his people to harshly.
3) Do you agree with North Korea and think they are a good Aly to have.
4) Have any of you guys been to Cuba? I have seen a lot of programs about Fidel and Che on TV and it seems a really good place with effective health care and safety . Is Cuba the best communist country in your opinion?

Thanks for your time guys. If you have any specific material that you think I should read to enhance my knowledge of communism then let me know and ill get stright down the Libary!

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Lo, welcome on board!

I myself know too little about the IRA to support or condemn them, but as far as I know about them, they are fighting for religion, so that I don't support them. But once again I don't know much about them.

N Korea and China both very authoritian, I myself am pretty libertian. I am against any authoritian government. China is captalism under the self claimed name of communist.

N Korea is pretty similair to George Orwells 1984 described states.

I haven't been to Cuba, but the place seems pretty good.

But, there isn't a communistic opinion, every communist is an individual, each with different ideas. There are plenty who completly disagree with my statements. Communist is just a word to give an indication how someone generally thinks about society. Altough thats how I see it.

But, now some questions of mine. Just beeing overcurious.

Why this sudden interrest in Communism?

And Brittish Warrior doesn't it sound pretty nationalistic?

[British Warrior]

Thanks for the reply! British warrior just sounded cool!
I dont belive that any people should suffer or be hungry. We should all have equal chances and treat each other as equals. I dont belive in religoun either so thats why im interested in communism. Another question though whats the Opinion on this board about stalin. He seemed more nationalistic than a commie!
I got interrested in communism in after seeing an interesting documentary on Fidel Castro and Che. the revolution inspired me and I agreed with what they did and the opportunities that the Cuban people got after the revolution

[Subcomandante Marcos]

As for me im not a communist, i just believe en change.

Although i am young i have read a lot and really like the communist/socialist/revolution idea, the idea that poverty can be fixed, along with hunger, violence and a better world without the imperialism and capitalism walking among us every day.

The left has always been associated with violence and with reason, the street is controlled by the leftist and not by the rich right, we are the ones throwing stones and they are the ones stealing our money in the bank.

Some guerrillas are really violent but have a good idea, like FARC, FPMR, MIR. and there are some movements with some real participation like ETA or the almighty EZLN.

The cuban revolution was and is a landmark, a day that showed us all that the farmers can get the power defeating a whole army supported by the U$ and overthrow a dictator from the jungle, change is possible. But nowadays people have forgatten almost all about that december, 1959.

When a capitalist asks you why communisn is so good, you tell them if they would like to not eat for days, have to sleep on the dirt, have to look over your shoulder every day just because you were born on a poor city and because there is a guy who is exploiting your father and your life in order to win some money.

[onepunchmachinegun]

British Warrior (a bad name if you ask me), Stalin was a very big nationalist posing as a true communist. He wasn't mush better than Hitler...

As CCCP already have pointed out... there aren't any answers in the communist idea of how every thing has to be or not be. Of course, Marx had ideas about he would like it to be, but you're opinion is equally good and should be respected equally. I don't know any leftist who are agrees with each other on several subjects... People are very different and have different ways of looking on things...

[Irish Republican]

Quote: from British Warrior on 4:51 pm on April 18, 2003

1) Do you guys support the IRA and their terrorist methods. Pesonally I think they are scum but many commies seem to agree with their cause.

Do you support the British government and their terrorist methods? (i.e. - police/army collusion with loyalist death squads, etc.) Personally I think they are scum but many British people seem to agree with their cause...

[Irish Republican]

Quote: from CCCP on 5:38 pm on April 18, 2003

I myself know too little about the IRA to support or condemn them, but as far as I know about them, they are fighting for religion, so that I don't support them. But once again I don't know much about them.

Sorry comrade but I have to correct you here, the IRA are not fighting for religion, they are fighting for their land that has been occupied by British imperialists for over 800 years and there have been a small number of Protestant members. The Republican Movement in general arent too fond of the Catholic church, as the church has backed the British oppresors throughout history and have always condemned Republicans. Hope I cleared that up for you.

[Irish Republican]

Quote: from British Warrior on 5:52 pm on April 18, 2003

I got interrested in communism in after seeing an interesting documentary on Fidel Castro and Che. the revolution inspired me and I agreed with what they did and the opportunities that the Cuban people got after the revolution

But werent they terrorists just like the IRA? Same tactics and all that.....

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

I would like to ad, that there is actually one thing that I can say with certain that all commies and socialists agree with is that they want equal chances for all since birth.

One of the questions, that a man must ask himself, why should someone die of fatnes and spent thousands of dollars to get thiner when his neighbour is starving?!

Glad that Che and the Cuban revolution inspired you.

Something that you see often in the "socialist/communistic" governments are true revolutionaries who have the best ideas and the best for the world, but when they grab the power, they get corrupted by it and believe that they are a sort of semi-god(Stalin) and their word is always true.

This has lead to some very tragic situations. I am sure that when Stalin joined in the Communistic movement in it's earlier days, he wanted the best for the people, as further as he came how more the got the idea that he was always right and how worser his decision ment for his people.

That's why I think that a government should have limited power.

Power to the people!

[chamo]

1) Living in the country I say that I support the IRA's cause but question their methods, but mainly those of the dissident members and their attacks on civilians, as I know lots of people who have been killed in bombs. However, I also completley condem British troops and loyalist parliamilitary's.

2) I don't know too much about the Chinese leader to make a fair judgement of him and his practices.

3) It would appear that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea would be a scary place to live, and the country is more of a fascist dictatorship than a socialist paradise. There is not much free speech to go around.

4) Haven't been to Cuba, but it is a well known fact that they have excellent health care and an education system, as well as lots of other public services. They have the best proportion of doctors to people in the world. 1 doctor for 231 people. Cuba is the best communist country.

[British Warrior]

Thanks guys for replying, i really dont see what is so bad about my name but it thought it sounded cool at the time. Perhaps i should have called myself Commie Warrior. Actually I should have called myself that oh well!
Yeah i feel sorry for the IRA and also dont agree with their methods but think that a united ireland would be a good thing, but I dont trust the IRA or respect them in any way. But as I said the a united Ireland is what it should be.
But dont waste time critising my name please! Thanks

[mentalbunny]

Don't worry, BW, soon we'll get to know you for the content of your posts, not your user name. I had to admit I was skeptical until I read your posts, I was pleasantly surprised! Welcome to the board.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Same here, I agree totally with metalbunny!

[onepunchmachinegun]

British Warrior, remember on thing: Though the IRA's cause maybe just because of the british opression is a REPUBLICAN goverment any better. It's a really bad thing that the british have occupied northern ireland, but still they are capitalists!

Look at in a practical way: If they get to the power we'll have to fight them afterwards...

[Severian]

Hi, First to introduce myself my name is British Warrior and im new to Communism. I agree with the theorys of communism. I want to be clear about a few things though-
1) Do you guys support the IRA and their terrorist methods. Pesonally I think they are scum but many commies seem to agree with their cause.

The cause - an independent and united Ireland - yes. Communists have to support revolutionary nationalist movements in the colonies, anything that weakens the main enemy.

The methods are characteristic of petty-bourgeois nationalism - communism relies on the mass action of the working class, working farmers, etc., instead.



2) What is your oppinion of the Chineseleader and his treatment of his people. Persoanlly I think he evil and treats his people to harshly.

I don't think any sensible person thinks the Chinese Communist Party today has anything to do with communism. I doubt they believe it themselves. There are even some pretty large capitalist employers who belong to it.



3) Do you agree with North Korea and think they are a good Aly to have.


I think it's important to oppose the U.S. war moves and to support removing the U.S. military presence and Korean reunification - which most Koreans, north and south, hope can be accomplished peacefully. Heck, it was never THEIR idea to divide it.

And north Korea has as much right to have nukes as the U.S., or anyone else, and a reason to need a nuclear deterrent.

That said, I'm not gonna fully endorse their political leadership or anything.



4) Have any of you guys been to Cuba? I have seen a lot of programs about Fidel and Che on TV and it seems a really good place with effective health care and safety . Is Cuba the best communist country in your opinion?


I know a lot of people who've gone and who were favorably impressed. They have done some good stuff in Cuba - as much as can possibly be done in their situation, isolated, besieged, economically underdeveloped.

Doing more depends on having revolutions in other countries. And Cuba's done everything they could to promote revolution internationally, from Angola to Nicaragua.

I'd say its the one government in the world that really tries to act in the interests of working people, the one Communist Party worthy of the name.



Thanks for your time guys. If you have any specific material that you think I should read to enhance my knowledge of communism then let me know and ill get stright down the Libary!


I'd say read the classics, stuff by revolutionaries not about them. Get a good grounding in Marx, Engels, Lenin, Che, then move on from there.

Che in particular had some ideas on human consciousness in building socialism that a lot of people don't know about. He was a lot more than just a guerilla fighter (that was important too of course.) "Socialism in Man in Cuba" is just the beginning on this.

If you can find a collection of different articles by Che, that'd be good...it oughta have his Message to the Tricontinental and "Planning and Consciousness in the Transition to Socialism", if it doesn't it's probably a way too incomplete collection.

(Edited by Severian at 5:31 am on April 21, 2003)

[Larissa]

Welcome British Warrior, try reading the texts on this site:
http://www.marx2mao.org/RG.html