My transformation

[Red Axis]

As many of you know, I was long an authoritarian, perhaps that comes from my days in the American Fascist Party, but recently I changed. I decided to study Marx closer and I realized that he advocated libertarian democratic socialism. I realize now that it is dictatorship of the proletariat, not dictatorship of the strongarm scumbag that we need. I would like to discuss that very thing. Do you think anarchy will work? I am not an anarchist, but a socialist libertarian. I am just wondering how and why anarchy would work? Could some anarchists explain the system of law enforcement under anarchy.

[Gura]

Question: Why did you join the American Fascist Party (what attracted you to fascism?), and how long did it take for you to become not a fascist?

[barista.marxista]

Great to see your interest in libertarian socialism. If you want a powerful introductory text, I'd recommend An Interview With Harry Cleaver (http://www.phillyraan.net/cleaverinterview.html), or, for a more lengthy dissertation, Non-Leninist Marxism: A Philosophy of Revolution (http://www.phillyraan.net/nonlenin.html), by Lenny Flank Jr.

[BattleOfTheCowshed]

So according to your blog you went from Democrat -> Fascist -> Stalinist -> Libertarian Socialist, all with some element of religion mixed in? Wow, thats pretty amazing, could you tell us what made you become a fascist, then how you went from fascist to socialist etc?

Anyway, I would suggest reading this: http://www.redstar2000papers.com/theory.ph...rt_from=&ucat=& (http://www.redstar2000papers.com/theory.php?subaction=showfull&id=1136115064&archive=&cnshow=headlines&start_from=&ucat=&)

It makes a lot of Leninism/authoritarian Communism a lot clearer and thus may help you.

[Red Axis]

I became a fascist about last year, but it only lasted a few months. I just felt the Dems were too dang moderate for me. Then the leader of the AFP resigned and I kind of got tired of it, so it was only a few month thing. It was only recently, like last month I read the communist manifesto, but did not understand true communism until recently.

[Zero]

So you were attracted to Fascism because the Democrats were moderate?

Jebas, you start moderate left, jump ultra right, jump a little left, then jump all the way left?

[Red Axis]

Actually I don't consider fascism to be right-wing, I consider it radical centrist, as I consider the Dems moderate centrists.

[Zero]

I suppose that makes sense, as radical support for Mien Furer can take on many different forms (Hiel Stalin! Hiel Hitler! Hiel Bush! Hiel Blair!)

[Nachie]

I think you need to chill out, sit down, and do a lot of reading before calling yourself anything again. In fact it might even be best for you to stay away from labels; you could be limiting your own opinions too much just trying to fit into some ideology.

I definitely support your interest in real communism but consider whether you're likely to hop out of this camp just as quickly as you've hopped out of the others.

[which doctor]

Now just change that Mao avatar of yours!

[anomaly]

Originally posted by RedAxis
I am just wondering how and why anarchy would work?
First, it's great to see that you're not a fascist anymore.

Well, there are a lot of ideas about this. First of all, make sure you realize that anarchism=communism. Different words for the same thing.

It would probably involve some sort of planning for production which is done through advanced communication from workplace to workplace and from workplaces to distribution centers.

Why would it work? Well, why wouldn't it work? Speaking as a materialist, it would work because productive forces are advanced to such an extent where a free-access society can work.


Could some anarchists explain the system of law enforcement under anarchy.
There will be no 'police' as such. The people will police the people. Also, people's militias will probably play some role.

[Bored77]

Red Axis, the reason I dont identify with anarchism is because it seems to pretty. The idea that there is no group and there is complete and total freedom makes me think of a gangsters paradise (for shizzle) Anarchist brothers! whats to stop me from robbing and killing whoever i want in your society?

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2006, 10:11 PM
The idea that there is no group
No group? Anarchy means "without authority" not "without organization." There would still be plenty of groups.


there is complete and total freedom makes me think of a gangsters paradise (for shizzle) Anarchist brothers! whats to stop me from robbing and killing whoever i want in your society?

What's stopping you now? Furthermore, what would you have to gain from such actions?

[Bored77]

Although i agree with you that doing shit like that is stupid there are plenty of others that dont? Should I get a gun and kill everyone that threatens me? thats a scary ass world if you ask me

[bcbm]

Although i agree with you that doing shit like that is stupid there are plenty of others that dont?

People are shaped by the material conditions they are raised in. In a community where caring for others, sharing and restraint from open conflict were the norm, I don't think people shooting each other would be much of a problem. And anti-social behavior would still have negative consequences.