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Cheung Mo
7th May 2006, 20:20
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail....6179&con_type=1 (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=11&art_id=17468&sid=7686179&con_type=1)
Dimentio
7th May 2006, 21:16
That is the same law that the European politician Tomas Bodström wants to instate all across the European Union. It is completely crazy.
Cheung Mo
7th May 2006, 23:51
The only thing good about the EU is that it's less bad than the U.S., the PRC, or the Islamists.
Colombia
8th May 2006, 00:11
The EU is completely screwing up. They have so little support from the people you would figure by now they would try some new proposals.
What a surprise? The CCP has done almost everything in its power to survey and type of dissent from establishing new police bureaus to this.
The Beat
9th May 2006, 03:45
The CCP is almost as corrupt as ever.
I wouldn't exactly call them fascists, at least not in the sense of the Nazis, but they have a long way to go to claim human rights victories. They are in need of another Tienamen Square debacle before the whole world.
Plus, they pay their workers peasant wages and keep them from taking advantage of their robust economy. It appears that the capitalist snake has bitten the new found bourgeoisie there.
piet11111
11th May 2006, 02:59
Originally posted by
[email protected] 7 2006, 08:16 PM
That is the same law that the European politician Tomas Bodström wants to instate all across the European Union. It is completely crazy.
could you give me a name of this law and if possible a link ?
greatly apreciated :)
Janus
11th May 2006, 18:18
Plus, they pay their workers peasant wages and keep them from taking advantage of their robust economy
Peasant wages?
The Chinese capitalists are exploiting the workers not necessarily the CCP.
Wanted Man
11th May 2006, 19:31
Originally posted by Cheung
[email protected] 7 2006, 10:51 PM
The only thing good about the EU is that it's less bad than the U.S., the PRC, or the Islamists.
False. And China is not fascist either.
Cheung Mo
11th May 2006, 20:14
Originally posted by
[email protected] 11 2006, 05:18 PM
Plus, they pay their workers peasant wages and keep them from taking advantage of their robust economy
Peasant wages?
The Chinese capitalists are exploiting the workers not necessarily the CCP.
The CCP is (at the very least) complicit in allowing Chinese and multinational capitalist interests to exploit and oppress Chinese workers.
Many Chinese workers currently have fewer rights than people deep in the heart of anti-union "right-to-work" Jesusland. (I don't know how anybody who trusts Beijing more than WSWS or Hong Kong's democratic left (i.e. a small subsection of the pro-demcracy camp that excludes the Democratic Party and most of the Frontier) can seriously consider even themselves a left-liberal or a social democrat, like alone a communist.)
Janus
11th May 2006, 21:23
The CCP is (at the very least) complicit in allowing Chinese and multinational capitalist interests to exploit and oppress Chinese workers.
Yes, no one argues that. It is mainly the top leaders who condone and perhaps may even engage in it.
Ander
11th May 2006, 22:57
I hate how every ignorant ass points out China as an example of abuse in a "Communist" system. If only they would realize that China is as capitalist as they come.
As for wiretapping, I hope all of this stops soon. We've got the NSA bugging people in the US, proposals in Europe, now this. Leave my damn privacy alone!
Cheung Mo
12th May 2006, 03:23
I never said that I consider China to be communist or in anyway leftist.
Ander
12th May 2006, 21:27
Don't worry, I wasn't referring to you :)
bolshevik butcher
12th May 2006, 22:47
I really wouldn't be surprised if this didn't go on on an onnofficial level anyway. The brtiish intelligence at one point had the entire brtitish communist party on file. I'm sure they've infiltrated most organisations at one point and probably browse leftist forums sometimes.
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