Cappie Arguments

[Noah]

I could answer these questions but I want knowledgable answers, like when you're in an argument someone says 'wow this person knows what their on about'..

Here are a few..


The COMMIES are THE REASON some parts of the world IS POOR AND PEOPLE DIE like flies. ONLY DUE TO capitalism and trade is it POSSIBLE to give economic growth and to help people MAKE THEIR OWN LIVING.

The COMMIES are THE REASON some parts of the world IS POOR AND PEOPLE DIE like flies. ONLY DUE TO capitalism and trade is it POSSIBLE to give economic growth and to help people MAKE THEIR OWN LIVING.


BUT That's what all OF THE commies are afraid of. COMMIES, here there and everywhere, HATE PEOPLE WITH OWN MONEY OWN DREAMS AND IDEAS. My oh my, commies are the most dangerous ANIMAL around. In fact, it is COMMIES AND COMMUNISM make people POOR, and the commies MAKE THE WORLD STINK dictatorsip loving-people.
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i actually have lived under a communist dictatorship. and i enjoyed it. it was fun.

i also notice how much fun all communist nations are having. such prosperity.

/sarcasm


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[I]communism will never work.

you are asking people to give up their goals and dreams.

its human nature to want to come out on top. you want the high grades, you want to win that soccer game, hockey game, paitnball game. you dont go out on the feild and go, ok guys lets all tie....

what you want is for people to just be the same, give up all their ambitions, and just live the same. but that cant happen as its human nature to want to come out on top. i dont think you understand this.

[ComradeRed]

I&#39;d punch him in the nose <_<

Don&#39;t waste your time arguing against philistines, you&#39;ll only waste your time and make them feel as though they were proven right.

[patrickbeverley]

Originally posted by the cappies Noah is arguing against
The COMMIES are THE REASON some parts of the world IS POOR AND PEOPLE DIE like flies. ONLY DUE TO capitalism and trade is it POSSIBLE to give economic growth and to help people MAKE THEIR OWN LIVING.

OK, this is what we at RevLeft refer to as a "lie".

I suppose that would mean the management of Nike are commies, would it? Because they undoubtedly are "THE REASON" for some people being poor and repressed. In developing countries, "capitalism and trade" are synonyms for theft and exploitation.


COMMIES, here there and everywhere, HATE PEOPLE WITH OWN MONEY OWN DREAMS AND IDEAS.

No, commies want people to have their own dreams and ideas. We also want to give them the economic freedom to pursue their dreams and ideas - unlike cappies, whose purpose, by definition, is to gather money to their own breast and deny it to other people.


its human nature to want to come out on top...what you want is for people to just be the same, give up all their ambitions, and just live the same. but that cant happen as its human nature to want to come out on top. i dont think you understand this.

I don&#39;t know about your nature, cappie, but my nature is to want equality and brotherhood with my fellow human beings. I don&#39;t want to come out on top, not if it means leaving my comrades in the dirt. It&#39;s just selfish to want to put everybody below you.


you want the high grades, you want to win that soccer game, hockey game, paitnball game. you dont go out on the feild and go, ok guys lets all tie....

The current system is like a football pitch at a 45 degree angle. If you want the system to be a playing field, why not a level playing field&#33; (ie Communism).

In any case, I never did much like competitive sports. ;)

Good luck, Noah.

[The Grey Blur]

The COMMIES are THE REASON some parts of the world IS POOR AND PEOPLE DIE like flies.
Like PatrickBev said, it is large multinational corporations like Nike (backed by US neo-imperialism) that exploit third-world workers, not Communists


ONLY DUE TO capitalism and trade is it POSSIBLE to give economic growth and to help people MAKE THEIR OWN LIVING
Well of course yes, Capitalism is a neccessary and progressive step in the evolution of third-world countries - it creates an exploited working-class that must sell their labour to survive - this working-class then engages in class conflict with the ruling classes - resulting in Socialism


BUT That&#39;s what all OF THE commies are afraid of. COMMIES, here there and everywhere, HATE PEOPLE WITH OWN MONEY OWN DREAMS AND IDEAS.
Well yes - if you have money you almost certainly exploited someone, intentionally or not, to accumulate it.

And ideas? Nowadays if a scientist invents something he must sell it to large corporations which have cornered all corners of the market - Capitalism consuming itself. It will then, possibly against the inventor&#39;s wishes, be used for a military purpose - yeah, those people really "own" their ideas :rolleyes:


In fact, it is COMMIES AND COMMUNISM make people POOR, and the commies MAKE THE WORLD STINK dictatorsip loving-people.

:lol: If you can&#39;t refute arguments like this I suggest you learn what Communism actually is. I suggest a book called &#39;The Communist Manifesto&#39;

[Noah]

If you can&#39;t refute arguments like this I suggest you learn what Communism actually is. I suggest a book called &#39;The Communist Manifesto&#39;

It seems that my introductory post didn&#39;t seem to get through. I wanted knowledgeable answers, I know how to answer that but I don&#39;t know how to structure it out and make it sound impressive, so that they can&#39;t really come back.

It&#39;s not necessarily reading the CM it&#39;s how you effectively lay down the argument, that&#39;s the skill i&#39;m looking for not a lecture thankyou very much.