How probable is a Marxist country ? - can this be done...

[Subcomandante Marcos]

Nowadays is ver popular the Antiamerican movements, but when a country hears the word Marx they inmediately freak out, it is a stigma.

So my question here is, how possible is a truly marxist world super power oike the URSS was before ?? is the long anticipated marxist idea of capitalism crumbling under their own weight happening any time soon ??

In my opinion it is possible and likely, but it going to take some hard work to ge rid of the Marx ghost, at least in my country when someone says "Communisn" people run to hide since they are too afraidof repercussions, and everytime we see more bullshit from the media murdering openly communist or socialist countries.

Who and how can the XXI century URSS be ??

[MarxIsGod]

I don't think the point of Marxism/Communism is to start a country (although that is a goal we should keep in mind) but rather to spread the ideas of communism to build understanding and only then can a country be formed successfully.

I do agree that with patriotism being through the roof in America that anti-Communism animosity is on the rise. I was talking to my friend as I was walking into a deli and she happened to say something to the extent of "That's because you're a communist". Immediately, this woman who was at the copy machine stares at me and gives me the most evil, hateful look I have ever seen. Communism's reputation has been spoiled by Stalin and the fact that Lenin brought the repressed Russians out of an oligarchy is often overlooked.

[MarxIsGod]

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Until people are able to view and understand communism with less bias and prejudice, the likelihood of a USSR of the 21st century is very unlikely.

[hawarameen]

i am seriously looking into the possibility of doing my masters degree on a subject based on socialism in business.

there are people who believe that socialism in business is starting to grow. i think that socialist ideals have a place in the corporate world and there are examples of some businesses taking on some watered down ideologies which is a start. there has been a tendancy in many businesses to move towards sustainable development and improved worker conditions and power.

things dont happen all of a sudden and i think that with economies around the world strugling more and more companies will want to be seen to be caring.

social and political movements that change the world start small, they gather momentum and in the end the majority of people support it.

right now when there is a trade summit etc people go out on the streets and protest by vandalising mcdonalds, i think the movement will gather momentum from here to include not only these fanatics or hardliners but to the everyday person out on the street.

companies such as enron who thought they were untouchable and too big to fall have found that no company is too big. mcdonalds for the first time in its history is making a loss and i hope this continues

[Subcomandante Marcos]

I just got home and on the way to the mall (yes i go there) a kid walked up to my car asking if he could wash the windshield (in my country every corner has one of this poor kids doing juggling or selling stuff like bubble gum or 'cuchufli'). The problem was that this kids are so desperate to earn some coins they dont even ask, they just start cleaning, well he must have been about 14 and my mom got so angry she started yelling at him, he just walked away. I got so mad, i started telling her that he didnt have any money and he was just looking for some food, she got really mad.

Then I realized why socialism is the ultimate and only goal, who told this kids he cant eat food every day ??

(a first hand example)

[Severian]

Quote: from Subcomandante Marcos on 10:32 pm on April 15, 2003
So my question here is, how possible is a truly marxist world super power oike the URSS was before ??

Which one? Truly Marxist or like the USRR was before? The two are contradictory.

And let's be clear: the goal of communism is not a single country, but a world without borders.

"is the long anticipated marxist idea of capitalism crumbling under their own weight happening any time soon ??"

When was that a Marxist idea? Capitalism will not collapse by itself, it has to be overthrown through revolution.

[ReduntilDead]

Im pretty much sure that true marxism says that capitalism slowly evolves to socialism which slowly evovles to communism

[Iepilei]

Capitalism buckles under it's own weight, and begins to decay. It decays into Fascism, which is where the revolution will take place.

[Pete]

Marxism is not a political or economic 'structure' (for lack of a better word), but a philosophy on wich to base a world view. It is a study of history that is projected into the future, and in a way can be comparable to religions in this sense. It seeks to understand human interactions and from the lessons you learn studing it you can see how Capitalism will fall. (That is how it is not a religion it is based on reason and fact, not subjective belief). You can be a communist without being a Marxist, how I do not know, but it should be possible. You can alos be a Marxist with out knowing it. But it is not a governmental form or an economic system. The social (combinatoin of economic and government and people) forms that Marx looked at the closest where Capitalism and Communism. Communism is achieved through the Dictatorship of the Proletariat (which is what I assume you mean by a 'Marxist State') and develops into anarchy in the end. It could also be a syndicist revolutoin that ends in anachry. Marxism sees a classless 'communal' system (hence the name Communsim) as the final pillar of humanity. So in truth a marxist state would be this anarchy, not anything currently achievable. We have a long way to go.

BTW, this is mostly self reflection on what I have been reading recently, and you may believe otherwise. On the grounds above I lay my claim to being Marxist.