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Everyday Anarchy
1st May 2006, 03:34
Hey comrades,
this morning I was flipping through my social studies textbook and saw that the Cuban missile crisis is a topic coming up next week. I'd just like to hear your opinions on the case and maybe some bits of truth that aren't going to be presented in the book.

Why were missiles pointed at the U.S. in Cuba?
What was the U.S.'s reaction?
How was it settled?
etc etc



Thanks.

The Grey Blur
1st May 2006, 11:57
bits of truth that aren't going to be presented in the book.
There is an interesting quote from Che about this matter, something like if they'd had the missiles they would have shot them immediately :lol: I think he was just pissed


Why were missiles pointed at the U.S. in Cuba?
They weren't - the Cubans attempted to procure missiles from the USSR to defend themselves, the thinking being that the US wouldn't attack Cuba (as it had already tried at the Bay of Pigs) and the USSR was happy to oblige as it would mean Cuba would be as tactically helpful for them as Turkey was for the US


What was the U.S.'s reaction?
They formulated several plans, including nuking Cuba, but evenually settled on a naval blockade; stopping the Russkies from getting the nukes to Cuba


How was it settled?
JFK promised the USA wouldn't invade Cuba if the missiles were withdrawn. Kruschev appeared to have accepted this compromise but also got the Americans to take some missiles out of Turkey

STN
1st May 2006, 20:19
interesting, i JUST got done today with the Cuban Missle Crisis.
some faqs:
Kennedy and Khrushchev didnt want war, everyone in the government under them wanted war.
It was one of the closest encounters in entering Nuclear War.
It was solved by Kennedy and Krushchev making a treaty. The US would take there missles out of Turkey, if USSR took theres out of Cuba.
The US tryed to keep it silent to the press and the people.
There was ONE death in the whole 13 days, it was a US pilot who got shot down by Cuban Armies.
I dont know why the missles were aimed at us.
Kennedy created a group that met secretly at the White House to discuss US's action. The group was called Excomm.

There are many more facts, If you need help, ask.
Peace

Commie Dic
2nd May 2006, 15:50
The CMC was for Russia to put missiles in cuba that way they had the shot advantage as the US did. The US with their missiles in Canada could fire upon Russia and hit any inch of Russian territory. Russia could only hit the north most part of the US. This made Russia mad and so they wanted to put their missiles in Cuba that way they could hit the US anywhere. This worried JFK and so he wanted to put an end to it by seizing the ships carrying the missiles before they hit the Cuban harbor. JFK bluffed his way out of getting into a battle and the ships returned with their ICBM missiles and that pretty much ended it.

The Grey Blur
2nd May 2006, 17:20
The US with their missiles in Canada could fire upon Russia and hit any inch of Russian territory
:lol: Turkey, not Canada


This worried JFK and so he wanted to put an end to it by seizing the ships carrying the missiles before they hit the Cuban harbor
He didn't want to "seize" anything, that would have been much too risky. Instead he simply set up a naval blocakde which forced the Russians to back down

Janus
2nd May 2006, 21:29
Kruschev appeared to have accepted this compromise but also got the Americans to take some missiles out of Turkey
The US was supposed to have done that before and JFK got upset when he found out that the missiles hadn't been removed. Therefore, that bargaining chip was pretty light.

mscommieparty
5th May 2006, 10:41
he got all of the missiles out of turkey, and there were some other posts that the americans had that were also dismantled, but it is rumored that they were reassembled as soon as Nikita looked the other way

and isn't a Nikita a kind of guided missile launcher? completely off topic :)

RebelDog
5th May 2006, 12:59
The missles weren't just off-loaded in Cuba, Russian troops were too. It was the Russians who were assembling the missles as far as I'm aware. I also think that the missles to be removed from Turkey were obsolete jupiter missles and were earmarked for removal anyway.

Sugar Hill Kevis
7th May 2006, 16:17
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 10:02 AM
and isn't a Nikita a kind of guided missile launcher? completely off topic :)
Only in Metal Gear Solid i think... :D

piet11111
10th May 2006, 19:51
Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2006, 10:02 AM
he got all of the missiles out of turkey, and there were some other posts that the americans had that were also dismantled, but it is rumored that they were reassembled as soon as Nikita looked the other way

and isn't a Nikita a kind of guided missile launcher? completely off topic :)
you are probably thinking of the katyusha (or metal gear solid)

america had the first strike advantage over the soviet union because of their missiles in turkey.
russia seeking to negate the american first strike advantage decided to use cuba like the americans used turkey.

america found out about this when the cubans where preparing to start building the facility's for the launch sites because of illegal U-2 flights in cuban airspace.
the american military was immediatly pressuring the president into a military response against cuban that involved all options possible.

the president knowing fullwell this would be WW3 decided to initiate talks with the USSR to find a solution but kruschev did not want to accept anything that would keep america in their first strike advantage.
as the soviet convoy got closer to cuba and the american blockade the risk of one of the sides to lose their cool and pull the trigger grew very high.
especially when americans started to hear unconfirmed submarine activity.
finally the american president decided to give kruchev what he wants and said turkey's missiles would be removed.

so the soviet union won this high stakes game of "chicken" and got their way if they kept their mouths shut about the american president lacking a spine.

Orange Juche
10th May 2006, 23:57
I'm assuming its too late now, but bring up the "Northwoods Documents."

You can Google 'em.

Amusing Scrotum
11th May 2006, 00:06
Originally posted by Permanent [email protected] 2 2006, 04:20 PM
Instead he simply set up a naval blocakde which forced the Russians to back down

They actually called it "quarantene"....because, under International Law, a Naval blockade is a declaration of War; so technically, the American Government declared War on the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Chomsky, I think, has written pretty extensively on this subject.

piet11111
11th May 2006, 00:52
Originally posted by Armchair Socialism+May 10 2006, 11:06 PM--> (Armchair Socialism @ May 10 2006, 11:06 PM)
Permanent [email protected] 2 2006, 04:20 PM
Instead he simply set up a naval blocakde which forced the Russians to back down

They actually called it "quarantene"....because, under International Law, a Naval blockade is a declaration of War; so technically, the American Government declared War on the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Chomsky, I think, has written pretty extensively on this subject. [/b]
semantics it was a blockade in every sense of the word.

and im certain Chomsky had indeed written about this a lot as thats all he ever does.
if he did something else instead i might even respect him but why should he as this is making him a fortune.