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Bannockburn
30th April 2006, 20:14
I wasn't sure where to put this thread, so by all means move it accordingly, but nevertheless I'm getting rid of some used books of mine. You can have them. We can set up how I can get them to you if anybody is interested. Not for sale, just take them off my hands. I have too many.
The theory and pratice of Communism by Rn Carew hunt
Quotations from chairman Mao Tsutung
How the other half dies by Susan george
Social origins of dictatorship and democracy by Barrington Moore, JR.
Systems of Political science by Oran R Young
Introduction to Neo-Colonialism by Jack Woddis
Communist Manifesto: Scoailist Landmark, by George Allen
Philosophies of Art and Beauty by Albert Hostadter
Ethics by William K Frankena
Power, influence and authority by David VJ bell
The new democratic theory, by Kenneth A megill
Racial oppression in American by Robert Blauner
The reformation of the 16th century by Roland H Bainton
Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
World in Critis: readings in international relations by Frederick J hartmann.
The ride and fall of the great powers: Paul kennedy
the mind managers by Herber I Schiller
exploitation by Robin Jenkins
zero_ware
10th May 2006, 10:14
I'd be glad to take these books, PM me and we can work something out.
Invader Zim
10th May 2006, 13:23
zero_ware, I couldn't step in and pinch a couple before you have the lot?
The reformation of the 16th century by Roland H Bainton and The ride and fall of the great powers: Paul kennedy sound like intriguing titles.
Taboo Tongue
10th May 2006, 13:46
Originally posted by
[email protected] 10 2006, 06:44 AM
zero_ware, I couldn't step in and pinch a couple before you have the lot?
And if I may as well, think I could get "Quotations from chairman Mao Tsutung"?
Lord Testicles
10th May 2006, 13:56
There are a few there that look interesting, The new democratic theory, by Kenneth A megill and How the other half dies by Susan george are the ones that caught my eye, but most of them look like a good read.
Vladislav
10th May 2006, 13:58
Let's sissor, paper, rock it.
zero_ware
10th May 2006, 19:35
Originally posted by
[email protected] 10 2006, 12:44 PM
zero_ware, I couldn't step in and pinch a couple before you have the lot?
The reformation of the 16th century by Roland H Bainton and The ride and fall of the great powers: Paul kennedy sound like intriguing titles.
Enigma, I don't have any problem with you taking reformation of the 16th and the ride and fall.
Taboo, i'm interested in quotations, sorry.
Skinz, I'd like to have new democratic theory if you don't mind...you can take how the other half dies.
Sound good?
Janus
11th May 2006, 14:41
I'm interested in
The theory and practice of Communism by Rn Carew Hunt
Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
World in Critis: readings in international relations by Frederick J hartmann.
Lord Testicles
11th May 2006, 15:20
Originally posted by
[email protected] 10 2006, 07:35 PM
Skinz, I'd like to have new democratic theory if you don't mind...you can take how the other half dies.
Sound good?
Yeah, sure no problem.
Dont mind if i take "the mind managers by Herbert I Schiller" then do you?
Janus
11th May 2006, 18:15
By the way, the title of this thread is misleading. Shouldn't it just be "free books" instead?
Orange Juche
11th May 2006, 18:20
I call "Exploitation" by Robin Jenkins!!!!!
zero_ware
11th May 2006, 22:42
Originally posted by
[email protected] 11 2006, 01:41 PM
I'm interested in
The theory and practice of Communism by Rn Carew Hunt
Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
World in Critis: readings in international relations by Frederick J hartmann.
Sorry janus, i'm interested in all of those.
Skinz, you can have the mind managers
MeetingPeople: you can have exploitation.
rioters bloc
12th May 2006, 01:06
zero_ware, did you join revleft just to get these books?
i don't think it's very fair that you get to decide who gets what books based on your interest alone... give others a chance as well.
that said, it did take an awfully long time for anyone to even notice this thread :P
while we're on the topic of books, can anyone recommend a good lefty online bookstore (other than AK press)?
LoneRed
12th May 2006, 01:13
Im also interested in Two Tactics of Social-Democracy-Lenin
Ya zero-ware your just coming in here, wanting all the books, who made you judge jury and executioner?, your 8 posts?
check out haymarket books rioters bloc
barista.marxista
12th May 2006, 01:25
Abebooks (http://www.abebooks.com/) is a great place for leftist books.
Vladislav
12th May 2006, 07:26
:lol: You scared him/her off. :lol:
Janus
12th May 2006, 07:54
Sorry janus, i'm interested in all of those.
Okay, you sound as if you already own them all. Bannockburn should have the final say in this.
zero_ware
12th May 2006, 10:55
Sorry, you all can split them evenly.
I haven't been here and contributed long enough to deserve these anyway.
And lonered, thanks for that link.
rioters bloc
12th May 2006, 14:57
Originally posted by
[email protected] 12 2006, 08:55 PM
Sorry, you all can split them evenly.
I haven't been here and contributed long enough to deserve these anyway.
And lonered, thanks for that link.
ahhhh no dude, it's not about deserving them or being here longer lol
i just meant perhaps it should be a bit more even :)
and maybe people should just pm bannockburn with what they want and let him split it how he sees best :)
peace out
thanks for the links peeps
Bannockburn
12th May 2006, 15:53
I have noticed that a few people have been interested in some of my books. I have also received some private massages concerning selected copies from given individuals.
Nevertheless I'm more than willing to send them out, but like I've replied to some members I don't see why I should pay for getting these books off my hands. I'm speaking about shipping and handling only. I'm not looking to make anything off these books. Zero has expressed some interest and I told him I'll look into how much it would cost to send all the books. This nevertheless would cost me considerable amount of money that I don't have. So, in all honestly I'm more up to ship to individuals who are willing to pay for shipping and handling rather than to get me to fork over the money. This seems fair to me because by all right I could simply leave them on a park bench.
Like I've said, Zero ware has expressed interest in wanting them all.
Aunkst has expressed interest in “Social origins of dictatorship and democracy” by Barrington Moore, JR
MeetingPeopleisEasy has expressed interest in “Exploitation” by Robin Jenkins
You guys can fight among yourselves concerning how to distribute the books in a fair, rational manner.
I don't mind private messages, and to tell you the truth its usually the best way I know somebody is interested. Nevertheless, I want this to be open and I want nobody to feel like he's getting robbed or undermined for a book they wanted.
I think we can all work this out in a fair manner and everyone can get what they want. We can discuss shipping and handling. I'm in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada which is about 30 miles south of Toronto. When we get more organized of what people want then we can discuss method of movement.
Janus
12th May 2006, 22:13
You guys can fight among yourselves concerning how to distribute the books in a fair, rational manner.
Well, since you own the books, you should be the one to decide.
I haven't PMed you because I haven't seen you around all that much.
Anyways, I'm willing to pay for shipping and handling. :)
Janus
12th May 2006, 22:21
Zero ware, those were the books that I was primarily interested in but if you really want them then that's fine.
So I guess that I'm interested in a few of the rest
Systems of Political science by Oran R Young
Introduction to Neo-Colonialism by Jack Woddis
Communist Manifesto: Scoailist Landmark by George Allen
Racial oppression in American by Robert Blauner
Ethics by William K Frankena
Power, influence and authority by David VJ bell
ComradeOm
12th May 2006, 23:04
Agggh... Canada. Shipping across the Atlantic would probably be too expensive for me :(
Zingu
12th May 2006, 23:14
I'm interested in some books in this order (most interested to least interested):
1)Philosophies of Art and Beauty by Albert Hostadter
2)Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
3)Ethics by William K Frankena
4)Social origins of dictatorship and democracy by Barrington Moore, JR.
5)The new democratic theory, by Kenneth A megill
Should I pm you my address once you figure it out? I can send you the money for the cost of the shipment, I'm in Southern California.
Zingu
12th May 2006, 23:30
In addition to that, if no-one steps up to the plate and really wants these two books, I'll happily relieve them from your burden as well! :D
The reformation of the 16th century
by Roland H Bainton
Introduction to Neo-Colonialism
by Jack Woddis
Janus
12th May 2006, 23:36
4)Social origins of dictatorship and democracy by Barrington Moore, JR.
The new democratic theory, by Kenneth A megill
The reformation of the 16th century
by Roland H Bainton
Someone else has already claimed those.
2)Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
Both zero and I are interested in that as well.
Introduction to Neo-Colonialism
I'm interested in that so we could work something out there.
zero_ware
12th May 2006, 23:59
Alright, Janus, I don't think I want any out of the last list you posted, the one i'm most interested in is:
Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
Is that one of the ones you really want?
I'd also be interested in The theory and pratice of Communism by Rn Carew hunt
I don't think anyone else wants it.
I'd also like quotations of mao, but I know taboo is interested in that as well, so I'll wait until he comes back.
Janus
13th May 2006, 00:58
Alright, Janus, I don't think I want any out of the last list you posted, the one i'm most interested in is:
Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
Is that one of the ones you really want?
I'd also be interested in The theory and pratice of Communism by Rn Carew hunt
I don't think anyone else wants it.
I was interested in both of them. But you can have them and work it out with Zingu now. :)
I'll just take the ones on the second list and debate those with others.
Zingu
13th May 2006, 01:32
Okay, I could settle with this then:
Philosophies of Art and Beauty
by Albert Hostadter
Ethics
by William K Frankena
Introduction to Neo-Colonialism
by Jack Woddis
How should we deal with the Neo-Colonialism book? I'll look through the list again to see if there is anything more appealing.
Zingu
13th May 2006, 01:44
The theory and pratice of Communism by Rn Carew hunt seems to be an anti-communist book, if I'm not mistaken (comments on amazon.com).
But, I'm willing to exchange Neo-Colonialism for one (or more) of the following:
How The Other Half Dies
by Susan george
Its similar to the subject, try looking it up Janus, if you think it suits you better than the other one, you're welcome to take it.
I couldn't really find any sufficent information for the other books though.
Janus
13th May 2006, 01:58
Ok, so this is where it's at:
Nobody (Not a username)-The theory and pratice of Communism by Rn Carew hunt
Taboo Tongue- Quotations from chairman Mao Tsutung
Skinz-How the other half dies by Susan george
Aunkst- Social origins of dictatorship and democracy by Barrington Moore, JR.
Janus-Systems of Political science by Oran R Young
Zingu- Introduction to Neo-Colonialism by Jack Woddis
Janus-Communist Manifesto: Scoailist Landmark, by George Allen
Zingu-Philosophies of Art and Beauty by Albert Hostadter
Zingu- Ethics by William K Frankena
Janus-Power, influence and authority by David VJ bell
Zero- The new democratic theory, by Kenneth A megill
Janus-Racial oppression in American by Robert Blauner
Enigma- The reformation of the 16th century by Roland H Bainton
Zero ware-Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
Janus-World in Critis: readings in international relations by Frederick J hartmann.
Enigma-The ride and fall of the great powers: Paul kennedy
Skinz-the mind managers by Herber I Schiller
MeetingPeopleIsEasy- exploitation by Robin Jenkins
Once again, zero ware is interested in pretty much all of them.
Zingu
13th May 2006, 02:01
Wait, don't you want to include yourself? If you think Introduction to Neo-Colonialism will suit your interests more than How The Other Half Dies , you can have it. Its up to you.
Janus
13th May 2006, 02:04
How The Other Half Dies
by Susan george
Skinz wants that book, Zingu. You'll have to take it up with him
Zingu, I will drop my claims to Ethics and Intro. to Neo-Colonialism.
So I guess that leaves me with:
Systems of Political science by Oran R Young
Communist Manifesto: Socialist Landmark by George Allen
Racial oppression in American by Robert Blauner
Power, influence and authority by David VJ bell
Zero ware, are you willing to yield World in Crisis: readings in international relations since I conceded on Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution and The theory and pratice of Communism?
Zingu
13th May 2006, 02:06
Okay, I am happy and settled with:
Philosophies of Art and Beauty
by Albert Hostadter
Ethics
by William K Frankena
Introduction to Neo-Colonialism
by Jack Woddis
Janus
13th May 2006, 02:07
Wait, don't you want to include yourself?
You're right. I wil edit it.
If you think Introduction to Neo-Colonialism will suit your interests more than How The Other Half Dies , you can have it. Its up to you.
I will drop my claim to it and Skinz wants How the other half dies.
zero_ware
13th May 2006, 02:12
Janus, take world in crisis, the only ones i'm interested in right now are:
Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution
Quotations of mao (i know taboo wants this, maybe we can work something out)
New Democratic theory (has someone else claimed this?)
since the theory and practice of communism seems to be anti communist, i'm not all that interested in it.
Zingu
13th May 2006, 02:13
Originally posted by
[email protected] 13 2006, 01:12 AM
since the theory and practice of communism seems to be anti communist, i'm not all that interested in it.
Don't take my word for it.
This is the first forum I have ever seen that has been able to carry something like this out without degenerating into flaming, trolling, and insults. :)
Janus
13th May 2006, 02:14
Janus, take world in crisis
Thanks.
New Democratic theory (has someone else claimed this?)
Nope, you negotiated with someone else.Zingu wanted it originally but I think he's dropped his claim.
Zingu
13th May 2006, 02:26
Originally posted by
[email protected] 13 2006, 01:14 AM
Nope, you negotiated with someone else.Zingu wanted it originally but I think he's dropped his claim.
Correct. I posted above with what I settled on.
zero_ware
13th May 2006, 02:27
Alright, so, I've taken Democratic Theory and two tactics of social democracy
I'll talk to taboo about quotations of mao when he posts here again...
I don't think I want the practice of communism, I read the comment on amazon,
unimaginably sinister methods used by Communists to steal and retain power
Seems anti-communist to me...
By the way: I will be paying shipping
Janus
13th May 2006, 02:35
This is the first forum I have ever seen that has been able to carry something like this out without degenerating into flaming, trolling, and insults.
So far. :lol:
This is something I found online about the book
Communist propaganda will stoop to anything to disparage opponents and glorify communism as an ideology and a way of life, including slander and defamation of character. In fact, one of its favourite methods is to launch personal attacks against political opponents, rather than limit itself to an objective criticism of the trends they represent.
This characteristic has been noted by many authorities on communism, including the noted British writer, Carew Hunt, who says in the introduction to his book, "The Theory and Practice of Communism", that the flood of communist propaganda is such that a researcher seeking to disprove the false allegations and claims with which it is riddled would not know where to begin. For, he says, communist propaganda, the strongest weapon of communism, will use all means, honourable or otherwise, and say anything, true or false, that will serve the cause of communism in any sphere. Because of the sheer volume of statements, claims, allegations and facts that are constantly spewed out by the communist propaganda machine, it would take specialized research centres years to wade through this vast sea of material and prove that most of the facts and data it contains are pure fiction. Even if such centres were to be set up by individual states, the results of their research would not reach the people to whom this propaganda is addressed. Most of them are disinclined to read serious scientific studies that will make them think, preferring the simplified pamphlets that distort reality and defy logic. How many Marxists in the Arab world or in any Third World country have read even one of the hundreds of serious books published by the various research centres specialized in Marxist and Soviet studies in such leading universities as Manchester University, the University of Paris or John Hopkins?
Definitely anti-communist.
che's long lost daughter
15th May 2006, 12:01
Let us let the owner decide :rolleyes:
stealthisname67
15th May 2006, 15:47
Thank you for giving some of us the chance to own some of these books.
It'd be cool with any of these:
The theory and pratice of Communism
Philosophies of Art and Beauty
Social origins of dictatorship and democracy
Philosophies of Art and Beauty
Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution
Exploitation
The Mind Managers
zero_ware
15th May 2006, 21:39
Well, Stealthisname I've already taken Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution and I think other people may have taken exploitation and the mind managers. And just to let you know, the theory and practice of communism is an anti-communist book.
Bannockburn
16th May 2006, 14:51
Nobody (Not a username)-The theory and pratice of Communism by Rn Carew hunt
Taboo Tongue- Quotations from chairman Mao Tsutung
Skinz-How the other half dies by Susan george
Aunkst- Social origins of dictatorship and democracy by Barrington Moore, JR.
Janus-Systems of Political science by Oran R Young
Zingu- Introduction to Neo-Colonialism by Jack Woddis
Janus-Communist Manifesto: Scoailist Landmark, by George Allen
Zingu-Philosophies of Art and Beauty by Albert Hostadter
Zingu- Ethics by William K Frankena
Janus-Power, influence and authority by David VJ bell
Zero- The new democratic theory, by Kenneth A megill
Janus-Racial oppression in American by Robert Blauner
Enigma- The reformation of the 16th century by Roland H Bainton
Zero ware-Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
Janus-World in Critis: readings in international relations by Frederick J hartmann.
Enigma-The ride and fall of the great powers: Paul kennedy
Skinz-the mind managers by Herber I Schiller
MeetingPeopleIsEasy- exploitation by Robin Jenkins
Once again, zero ware is interested in pretty much all of them.
This is a pretty good list. I have decided to "close" the the bidding this Saturday. So, what I take as final will be that day. I will then pm everyone to get there location so I can figure out shipping and handling.
The theory and practice of communism is an anti-communist book. Yet, its good to have to know the arguments that some people may use to refute Marxist and communist theories.
So basically it goes like this. Saturday will be the final day, and whatever will be decided by saturday night at midnight (EST) will be final and what people have claimed is claimed. I think that is fair and everyone seems to be doing well. Keep up the good work, and this seems like its going well, and it will work.
Perhaps in the future, we can get some of the admins in here, or talk to them about setting up a better system were we can exchange books to one another which we don't read anymore. Kinda like a communist book club. lol
Janus
16th May 2006, 15:20
The theory and pratice of Communism
Philosophies of Art and Beauty
Social origins of dictatorship and democracy
Philosophies of Art and Beauty
Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution
Exploitation
The Mind Managers
No one has claimed The Theory and Practice of Communism except for you. As for the others, I hope one of the other members will drop their claims to it. :(
Lord Testicles
16th May 2006, 18:59
Originally posted by
[email protected] 16 2006, 02:51 PM
Perhaps in the future, we can get some of the admins in here, or talk to them about setting up a better system were we can exchange books to one another which we don't read anymore. Kinda like a communist book club. lol
We could try and set something up so that we can rotate books, once someone has finished reading it they can pass it on, if you understand what I mean?
EDIT: spelling.
stealthisname67
17th May 2006, 07:34
Originally posted by
[email protected] 15 2006, 08:39 PM
Well, Stealthisname I've already taken Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution and I think other people may have taken exploitation and the mind managers. And just to let you know, the theory and practice of communism is an anti-communist book.
Well, you know, that's all fine, I was just going to go for it, but also on "The Theory and Practice of Communism", I realized that it is an anti-communist book, but I want to read from the writings of the enemy, to understand what they are all about, and think of my rebuttals to their own biased opinions.
Janus
18th May 2006, 17:49
We could try and set something up so that we can rotate books, once someone has finished reading it they can pass it on, if you understand what I mean?
Sure that's a possibility though I don't know if some of us here can pay for all that shipping and handling.
Lord Testicles
18th May 2006, 17:55
Originally posted by
[email protected] 18 2006, 05:49 PM
We could try and set something up so that we can rotate books, once someone has finished reading it they can pass it on, if you understand what I mean?
Sure that's a possibility though I don't know if some of us here can pay for all that shipping and handling.
Yeah i guess but it must be cheaper than buying the books
stealthisname67
19th May 2006, 00:15
Originally posted by Skinz+May 18 2006, 04:55 PM--> (Skinz @ May 18 2006, 04:55 PM)
[email protected] 18 2006, 05:49 PM
We could try and set something up so that we can rotate books, once someone has finished reading it they can pass it on, if you understand what I mean?
Sure that's a possibility though I don't know if some of us here can pay for all that shipping and handling.
Yeah i guess but it must be cheaper than buying the books [/b]
That's true.
Janus
20th May 2006, 23:31
Ok, stealthisname, I added you to the list. As for the other books you wanted, you'll have to ask those who have claimed them.
stealthisname67-The theory and pratice of Communism by Rn Carew hunt
Taboo Tongue- Quotations from chairman Mao Tsutung
Skinz-How the other half dies by Susan george
Aunkst- Social origins of dictatorship and democracy by Barrington Moore, JR.
Janus-Systems of Political science by Oran R Young
Zingu- Introduction to Neo-Colonialism by Jack Woddis
Janus-Communist Manifesto: Scoailist Landmark, by George Allen
Zingu-Philosophies of Art and Beauty by Albert Hostadter
Zingu- Ethics by William K Frankena
Janus-Power, influence and authority by David VJ bell
Zero- The new democratic theory, by Kenneth A megill
Janus-Racial oppression in American by Robert Blauner
Enigma- The reformation of the 16th century by Roland H Bainton
Zero ware-Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
Janus-World in Critis: readings in international relations by Frederick J hartmann.
Enigma-The ride and fall of the great powers: Paul kennedy
Skinz-the mind managers by Herber I Schiller
MeetingPeopleIsEasy- exploitation by Robin Jenkins
Janus
21st May 2006, 06:58
I think Bannockburn said that the bidding would stop today. So those who have just noticed this thread may be a bit upset.
SanPatricio'sSoul
21st May 2006, 07:47
Originally posted by
[email protected] 12 2006, 10:30 PM
In addition to that, if no-one steps up to the plate and really wants these two books, I'll happily relieve them from your burden as well! :D
The reformation of the 16th century
by Roland H Bainton
Introduction to Neo-Colonialism
by Jack Woddis
I guess Intro to Neo-Colonialism is already taken huh?
Janus
21st May 2006, 08:31
I guess Intro to Neo-Colonialism is already taken huh?
Zingu has claimed it. You'll have to take it up with him.
zero_ware
21st May 2006, 17:16
Well, I'm surprised, this thread worked out very well ;)
Bannockburn
22nd May 2006, 18:35
stealthisname67-The theory and pratice of Communism by Rn Carew hunt
Taboo Tongue- Quotations from chairman Mao Tsutung
Skinz-How the other half dies by Susan george
Aunkst- Social origins of dictatorship and democracy by Barrington Moore, JR.
Janus-Systems of Political science by Oran R Young
Zingu- Introduction to Neo-Colonialism by Jack Woddis
Janus-Communist Manifesto: Scoailist Landmark, by George Allen
Zingu-Philosophies of Art and Beauty by Albert Hostadter
Zingu- Ethics by William K Frankena
Janus-Power, influence and authority by David VJ bell
Zero- The new democratic theory, by Kenneth A megill
Janus-Racial oppression in American by Robert Blauner
Enigma- The reformation of the 16th century by Roland H Bainton
Zero ware-Two tactics of social-democracy in the democtatic revolution by Lenin
Janus-World in Critis: readings in international relations by Frederick J hartmann.
Enigma-The ride and fall of the great powers: Paul kennedy
Skinz-the mind managers by Herber I Schiller
MeetingPeopleIsEasy- exploitation by Robin Jenkins
I'm going to assume this is the final list? I will page those of the above list, to get there info.
Bannockburn
22nd May 2006, 18:52
I have just sent out PM's to the above list. I probably made some mistakes to who I sent to, and what books. Nevertheless I'm taking the above as final. ego, if you did not recieve a pm, please contact me.
Janus
15th July 2006, 04:35
Has anyone heard from Bannockburn at all?
Lord Testicles
15th July 2006, 14:58
Originally posted by
[email protected] 15 2006, 02:36 AM
Has anyone heard from Bannockburn at all?
Not in awhile.
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